Work sending messages pleading for help

[whenwillthemadnessend]

My work has sent out an email this morning pleading for help today. I expect it will be
Like this for a few weeks now.

It's not an essential service likely but if my Work is doing it how are the essential services going to cope

This is why I think we will
End up with some restrictions soon.

The only reliable way to exert some control over highly infectious illnesses is isolation, as has been recognised for centuries.

Well obviously yes.

If we all isolated and only ventured out in Hazmat suits for bread and milk every 3 days, then the virus would be 'under control'.

But society can't function that way. The question of how long, if at all, we should isolate due to a mostly mild virus against which the vast majority of the adult population has been vaccinated, is a valid one.

Life isn't only about keeping viruses 'under control' at all costs.

@FuzzyPuffling please offer an alternative then? Surely if people are CEV then they can simply lockdown themselves as an individual, if that is what they want to do? Why insist that actually, you want the whole country to lockdown too, it's just incredibly selfish behaviour. Even if I had cancer, I could never imagine putting myself so high above others that millions of lives are ruined to protect me, when I could simply just choose to protect myself.

@FourTeaFallOut

Ah, a Tory bot. Ok. That's new

It's been happening increasingly on this board in the last few weeks. People advocating for lower restrictions are encountered by other posters who can't cope with the idea of good faith disagreement, so throw out accusations of bots, flying monkeys, sockpuppeting etc. Happened to me earlier today. It's actually quite interesting to observe.

@Blubells

Maybe the 7 day isolation rule should be scrapped for those who feel well enough to work?

This!!

I think some things have to be prioritised. For me, apart from the obvious one of health and other emergency services schools have to stay open. Unfortunately that may mean some hospitality sectors may suffer.

I have recently had Covid and was not well enough to work for about a week even though I've had 3 jabs. Sending people into work who are asymptomatic would probably just cause more people to be off sick in the long term.

@kickupafuss

I think some things have to be prioritised. For me, apart from the obvious one of health and other emergency services schools have to stay open. Unfortunately that may mean some hospitality sectors may suffer.

I have recently had Covid and was not well enough to work for about a week even though I've had 3 jabs. Sending people into work who are asymptomatic would probably just cause more people to be off sick in the long term.

So you think mass unemployment, child poverty and a massive increase in homelessness due to shutting the hospitality sector presumably inevitably is an acceptable trade for limiting deaths pertaining to a variant which currently has something like a 0.5% hospitalisation rate?

For most people, it's a cold variant. Most people I know had it, said it was just a cold, or displayed zero symptoms. Only two people I know, were hospitalised, because they had poor health conditions. The vunerable should shield, and the rest carry on as normal.

Indefinitely

It's been happening increasingly on this board in the last few weeks. People advocating for lower restrictions are encountered by other posters who can't cope with the idea of good faith disagreement, so throw out accusations of bots, flying monkeys, sockpuppeting etc. Happened to me earlier today. It's actually quite interesting to observe

It is getting worse. I must be a very good Tory bot though. Planting myself pre-pandemic talking about inane shit and parking threads, lulling people into a false sense of security by being concerned and compliant about the illness and restrictions in March 2020...and now, bam...the big reveal...Tory bot - playing the long game.

@Autumndays123

It always amazes me that posters call for lockdowns without any suggestion.to any form of exit plan. What do these people actually want to happen? How do we protect vulnerable people from covid forever? Genuinely please enlighten me because it's clear vaccinations don't stop the spread of covid entirely and neither does it protect people. So if we must save every life and protect every person from getting it until the end of time, how do you envision that?

Agree. Remember many posters on this section have anxiety about Covid and general health anxiety. The “I’m worried about vulnerable people” may actually be their own anxiety about being unable to control something-in this case Covid. That’s why they get so nasty and accuse people of “culling” or call posters “scum” or “despicable” (seen on other threads). And I bet they’re the first to say “be kind” too. Always the way.

I’m hoping that going forward decisions won’t be based on emotions but facts.

New/additional GP/ANP/PN's fell over from Delta/Omicron? each day for the last couple of weeks. Make running vaccination and still seeing patients an exercise in daily juggling and compromises.

Here you go: it was originally on the BBC but a quick google search came up with this:

Thank you.

I do take the daily Mail with a pinch of salt as they like to exaggerate but if it’s true it’s quite worrying to read how many people have apparently been hospitalised with other issues but were found to have covid once tested.

The vunerable should shield, and the rest carry on as normal.

If only it was that easy though.

In my school over half the staff are classed as vulnerable - which means the school would have to close if there aren’t enough staff.

@FourTeaFallOut

It's been happening increasingly on this board in the last few weeks. People advocating for lower restrictions are encountered by other posters who can't cope with the idea of good faith disagreement, so throw out accusations of bots, flying monkeys, sockpuppeting etc. Happened to me earlier today. It's actually quite interesting to observe

It is getting worse. I must be a very good Tory bot though. Planting myself pre-pandemic talking about inane shit and parking threads, lulling people into a false sense of security by being concerned and compliant about the illness and restrictions in March 2020...and now, bam...the big reveal...Tory bot - playing the long game.

The best kind!

I myself am a double agent, getting into beefs with actual Tories on other threads.

Maybe the OP's gone into work then, as they haven't come back to the thread yet. Hope it's not too stressful.

I work in the NHS. Community based secondary health care. Nobody in our team , or even our building, has had covid. We have tested twice a week and are now testing daily. Most of us have had pcrs, most of us have children who have tested positive. But none of us has had it.
We go out at weekends, pubs, clubs, see friends, visit elderly parents in care homes etc but we lft.
We haven't spread covid. We haven't stopped working. We are providing the kind of service we did pre-covid.
It's not been difficult.

I really don't see why other people find this so challenging.

[quote Autumndays123]@FuzzyPuffling please offer an alternative then? Surely if people are CEV then they can simply lockdown themselves as an individual, if that is what they want to do? Why insist that actually, you want the whole country to lockdown too, it's just incredibly selfish behaviour. Even if I had cancer, I could never imagine putting myself so high above others that millions of lives are ruined to protect me, when I could simply just choose to protect myself.[/quote]
It's quite clear you've never had cancer!

@FuzzyPuffling still waiting for your alternative?

@Blubells

Maybe the 7 day isolation rule should be scrapped for those who feel well enough to work?

This

@JohnSmithDrive

*You don’t get it do you

They maybe well enough to work but as they are isolating as they have tested positive then all they are going to do is transmit it to others

So in simple terms business of 10, 1 of sick, under your example goes in, infects 5 so then they become spreaders as well*

We do get it, it doesn't matter if what they are spreading is a mild illness

Precisely this.

There have so far been 14 deaths with omicron in the UK. It’s simply madness to destroy the whole of our society over a case of the sniffles.

At any rate, more it is spread, the closer we get to herd immunity and the end of the pandemic.

Quite why people want to string this nightmare out any longer than necessary is beyond me.

It's quite clear you've never had cancer

I have actually, and could never dream of being so entitled as to expect the whole of the rest of the world to grind to a halt, when I have the option to isolate myself if I felt the need.

'Destroy the whole of our society'....

@SheikhMaraca

It's quite clear you've never had cancer

I have actually, and could never dream of being so entitled as to expect the whole of the rest of the world to grind to a halt, when I have the option to isolate myself if I felt the need.

So you never needed to go into hopsital for treatment then, if you think you can fully isolate yourself as a cancer patient?

How long should we continue to live in this "brave new world"?
Another 3 months, another year, another 2 years.

How many more jabs will people need before we can stop these restrictions?

I've got a friend who is on her second dose of Covid and has had jabs and the booster. She's not the only one.

I think the GP service needs to revert back to normality now. Stop jabbing the general population with something designed for a significantly different virus.

"My school only got through the last week of term by doing this. We couldn't get enough supply staff but a few PT staff did some extra days. We also didn't have enough lunch time staff so teachers covered lunch duties. Can't see much changing in January."

Mine too. The Head, who does break duty anyway, was one of four SLT who had to help run the kitchen and serve food to the children as the kitchen staff went down with Covid one by one. We had doubled up GCSE classes, lecture style, in the hall due to so many teaching staff being off. I hope it's better in the New Year but I can't see it somehow.