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Work sending messages pleading for help

359 replies

whenwillthemadnessend · 27/12/2021 09:41

My work has sent out an email this morning pleading for help today. I expect it will be
Like this for a few weeks now.

It's not an essential service likely but if my Work is doing it how are the essential services going to cope

This is why I think we will
End up with some restrictions soon.

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FourTeaFallOut · 27/12/2021 12:02

An, fwiw, I'm cev so not the hypothetical scenario it might be for others.

natrew · 27/12/2021 12:07

My school only got through the last week of term by doing this. We couldn't get enough supply staff but a few PT staff did some extra days. We also didn't have enough lunch time staff so teachers covered lunch duties. Can't see much changing in January.

Pickledlipstick · 27/12/2021 12:09

Everyone I know (and there has been a lot) who have had covid over the last week have felt fine after about 4 to 5 days and just sat at home bored. I’m guessing it’s omicron die to the mildness but no way to know for sure. It should be tested like a cold IMO and big keep people at home for 10 days. I know they have changed ut to 7 but only if negative tests which most pipelines don’t have that early.

Pickledlipstick · 27/12/2021 12:09

Treated like a cold that should have said

Xenia · 27/12/2021 12:12

My son (delivery driver, food) had colleagues off "sick" on 23rd and 24th (so he was veyr busy) and I suspectj ust like every Christmas in the history of mankind some (but not all) people are not really sick but want the extra day to get ready for Christmas. I will depend for that lot on if they are paid when off sick. Those who get SSP after day 3 and no pay for days 1 - 3 off sick tend to be less likely to make up illness than those who are on full pay when they really are sick and when they are pretending to be sick.

HR officers have always had a devil of a job to sort the sheep from the goats on this and covid must be making it harder.

greenteafiend · 27/12/2021 12:12

If people had isolated as they were meant to it would have been over with a long time ago.

It's nearly the end of 2021 and yet it seems that a lot of people just are not getting it.
Covid. Is. Not. Going. Anywhere.

zebra · 27/12/2021 12:13

They need to scrap isolation rules. Between vaccines and mutations this has become no worse than the common cold for the huge majority of people. Even with everyone with a known infection isolated, it's now become some prevalent you're going to struggle to avoid it in day to day life anyway. If you feel well enough to work then go to work. If you're vulnerable get your vaccines and do what you feel necessary to protect yourself, but please don't expect society to shut itself down indefinitely.

OliveTree75 · 27/12/2021 12:14

If people had isolated as they were meant to it would have been over with a long time ago.
No it wouldn't

Autumndays123 · 27/12/2021 12:18

All restrictions do is delay the inevitable. Do you really think if we lock the country down now, when we open back up in 2 weeks, 2 months or even 2 years we won't be in the exact same position? We cannot run and hide from covid forever. Omicron is shown to be very mild so we either need to ride it out, meaning we will get natural immunity for a short time due to the high number of infections, or we abolish all isolation and let people carry on as they will with their mild sniffles.

Lockdown is not the answer and I can't see how anyone with more than half a brain cell could think it is.

WonderfulYou · 27/12/2021 12:23

How do you know people will get it mildly? Mild you might mean intensive care for someone undergoing chemo.

The sad truth is that most people don’t care about people with cancer or other serious illnesses, unless it affects them personally.

RedWingBoots · 27/12/2021 12:25

@Autumndays123. Lockdown is to stop everyone getting infected at once so the country particularly the NHS doesn't grind to a halt. So yes it does delay things as that's the purpose.

Autumndays123 · 27/12/2021 12:25

And to those harping on about cancer patients and such - there are an awful lot of illnesses which can lead to the death of cancer patients, normal flu included. We have never shut down the entire country to stop cancer patients catching flu, for very good reason, it's not a viable option and quite ludicrous to even contemplate.

I've said it before and I will say it again, people need to starting taking responsibility for their own health. That means if a vulnerable person is worried they will catch covid, they make a decision on how to manage that risk, whether that be getting on with life as normal, or never leaving the house again - that is up to them. Expecting the whole country to sit indoors indefinitely so very few individuals are protected until most likely as soon as restrictions ease again is not a logical way to run a nation.

WonderfulYou · 27/12/2021 12:26

They need to scrap isolation rules. Between vaccines and mutations this has become no worse than the common cold for the huge majority of people.

The reason they brought the stricter isolation rules back in was because the new variant is spreading too fast and hospitalisations are going up - increasing pressure on already struggling hospitals and staff.
Scrapping isolation rules would mean this gets worse.

Autumndays123 · 27/12/2021 12:27

[quote RedWingBoots]@Autumndays123. Lockdown is to stop everyone getting infected at once so the country particularly the NHS doesn't grind to a halt. So yes it does delay things as that's the purpose.[/quote]
No, lockdown is to stop the NHS grinding to a halt at a particular point in time. That protection is then completely erased once restrictions ease and the cycle starts again. Or are you suggesting we remain locked down for the rest of time?

RedWingBoots · 27/12/2021 12:27

@zebra "mild" just means you don't take up a hospital bed.

This means you can be anything from having a bad cold to nearly needing to go to hospital.

NeedAHoliday2021 · 27/12/2021 12:28

I’m dreading turning my work phone on. I know my team is okay as my director would have called my personal phone if he needed me but I work in a hospital so I can’t face looking while I’m on leave.

toomuchlaundry · 27/12/2021 12:32

If I was ill in hospital I’m not sure I would want someone knowingly positive with COVID looking after me

Blubells · 27/12/2021 12:32

The reason they brought the stricter isolation rules back in was because the new variant is spreading too fast and hospitalisations are going up

But are they going up significantly? And are they going up due to Covid (as I read that over 60% 'covid' hospital admissions were due to other reasons)

LumosSolem · 27/12/2021 12:32

The sad truth is that most people don’t care about people with cancer or other serious illnesses, unless it affects them personally.

This is such a fucking horrible comment. You really think people don't care about people with cancer and other serious illnesses? I'm so sick of comments like this continually being spewed out as nasty snide digs at those who want some balance and who are realistic to the fact that society cannot continue facing restrictions and lockdowns forevermore.

VikingOnTheFridge · 27/12/2021 12:34

@toomuchlaundry

If I was ill in hospital I’m not sure I would want someone knowingly positive with COVID looking after me
Ideally, but if it were that or nobody I'd take the covid positive one every single time.
Meadowblossom · 27/12/2021 12:37

My 80 year old dad died of COVID the week before Christmas. To all of you saying let’s just cull the vulnerable and let the young and fit carry on - I think you are despicable.

Blubells · 27/12/2021 12:38

If I was ill in hospital I’m not sure I would want someone knowingly positive with COVID looking after me

Yes, but what if the alternative is no staff at all?!

JohnSmithDrive · 27/12/2021 12:40

@titchy

It doesn't matter if these people transmit a mild virus to others.

How do you know people will get it mildly? Mild you might mean intensive care for someone undergoing chemo. Hmm

But you can say that about every other illness in circulation. For some people a cold is very bad news
WonderfulYou · 27/12/2021 12:41

But are they going up significantly? And are they going up due to Covid (as I read that over 60% 'covid' hospital admissions were due to other reasons)

@Blubells can you link where you read this to please?

Aderyn21 · 27/12/2021 12:42

We had to shut down when there were no vaccines and we knew next to nothing about how best to treat covid - it was the right thing to do for all those people who were vulnerable and for the rest of the population too. But it's impossible to do that frequently and for long periods of time. No government can regularly pull that kind of money out of their arse indefinitely and that's before you get into the psychological damage caused to people who don't know of their livelihoods will survive and people whose health suffers by not being able to access normal life.
Of course people care about the vulnerable, but the world can't just shut down every winter.