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Hope the Govt keeps its nerve

219 replies

Wizzbangfizz · 22/12/2021 21:44

Against another lockdown?

I know it is back bench pressure keeping us from where wales and Scotland are going to be/are. Due to that though I think we have a chance of coming through this - seeing it out and hopefully getting on with it on 2022 (I'd except back to tables in hospitality) - especially in light of the 10-7 days isolation reduction now?

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thewhatsit · 22/12/2021 22:34

@MarshaBradyo

I do wonder about the huge cost re Scotland / Wales and if they’ve gone too early pre data confirmation
Presumably they were hoping that England would follow and Rishi would restart furlough? Because what happens now…??
MarshaBradyo · 22/12/2021 22:36

@Tealightsandd

they’ve gone too early pre data confirmation

The whole point of prevention. Not waiting until mass death, disability, and the consequent economic hangover.

I disagree.

The damage will be there for many and they won’t come back from it. There’s both sides to consider.

bumbleymummy · 22/12/2021 22:36

We can’t afford to keep locking down and paying furlough. Scotland wales and NI need to start backtracking on their restrictions with the latest news of it being milder. Hospitality is dying.

the80sweregreat · 22/12/2021 22:39

The government can't afford furlough again.
They have given the devolved governments money this week too.
Trouble is , it is never enough money it seems
The figures they quote is always eye watering too. But they have also wasted huge amounts of money too :(

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:39

Two years on. And still people want to cling to the false belief that killing many Others is worth it for economy.

Despite the clear evidence that it's not just a saying. Health really is wealth and wealth really is health.

The countries that took infection control mitigations all have healthier economies.

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:41

Hospitality is dying.

Yes. The customers are dying. And dead people can't spend money.

The answer is proactive preventative measures.

MarshaBradyo · 22/12/2021 22:41

It’s probably easier to say if it’s not you losing livelihood.

Two years on and people can still ignore this part so easily. And other damage.

Madness

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:42

And however hard, it's easier to build new businesses than it is to bring people back to life. It's also easier to rebuild a business than it is to stop being too disabled to work.

TheKeatingFive · 22/12/2021 22:43

Whoever took that photo back in may 2020 is playing a blinder

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:45

What a society the UK (mainly England) has become. There are people who seem to genuinely believe it's worth killing Other People.

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:46

Oh well kudos at least to Sturgeon and Drakeford. Some morals (and longer-term economic foresight) left in the UK

IcedPurple · 22/12/2021 22:47

Why is one poster using this board to talk to talk to themselves?

siestalady · 22/12/2021 22:49

@IcedPurple

Why is one poster using this board to talk to talk to themselves?
I was also wondering that Xmas Grin
MarshaBradyo · 22/12/2021 22:50

@Tealightsandd

What a society the UK (mainly England) has become. There are people who seem to genuinely believe it's worth killing Other People.
I hope you’ve locked down China style for two years and not had contact with people.

Anyway you seem to be getting carried away with the attacks.

Sasketchewoo · 22/12/2021 22:50

You neglect to mention that, whilst the data suggests less severity, A) It's not certain yet

Actually there is already a pretty high degree of confidence already, which is amazing bearing in mind how new this variant is. And the data comes from multiple countries and places where there are different vulnerabilities in the populations and different amounts of people vaccinated.

IcedPurple · 22/12/2021 22:50

I guess you'll always find someone to agree with you that way!

TheKeatingFive · 22/12/2021 22:50

Nothing new there Wink

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:50

@MarshaBradyo

It’s probably easier to say if it’s not you losing livelihood.

Two years on and people can still ignore this part so easily. And other damage.

Madness

You think a business is worth killing (many) people for?

And lost livelihood. Indeed. Easier to build a new business than stop being disabled. Which is the fate of the significant minority of Long Covid sufferers, who have lost the ability to earn a livelihood.

Tealightsandd · 22/12/2021 22:51

How do Long Covid sufferers earn a livelihood?

IcedPurple · 22/12/2021 22:52

@Sasketchewoo

You neglect to mention that, whilst the data suggests less severity, A) It's not certain yet

Actually there is already a pretty high degree of confidence already, which is amazing bearing in mind how new this variant is. And the data comes from multiple countries and places where there are different vulnerabilities in the populations and different amounts of people vaccinated.

Yes, data all seems to be pointing in one direction, and it's a positive one!

There are doubts about whether Omnicron is milder due to its intrinsic qualities or due to pre-existing immunity. And of course, its higher transmissibility may cancel this out to some extent. But there seems very little doubt that it is leading to significantly fewer hospitalisations, which is great news.

Well, at least for some of us!

timetobackout · 22/12/2021 22:53

Is nonsense the word you are looking for purple

Sasketchewoo · 22/12/2021 22:53

The situation in the UK will be/is dire - but mostly only in London.

That's London, where huge numbers have chosen not to get vaccinated?

And 'dire'? That's a massive exaggeration. Omicron is looking like the biggest blessing in that it is quite possibly going to end the pandemic for us. It is killing very few people.

Even with all your talk about long covid - the vaccine seems to cut the risk of that hugely and for most people it eases off of its own accord overtime. You are catastrophising.

Billandben444 · 22/12/2021 22:53

@Tealightsandd
We get it.

IcedPurple · 22/12/2021 22:54

@timetobackout

Is nonsense the word you are looking for purple
Well, it's one of them.

Maybe time for someone to accept their disappointment and call it a night?

Sasketchewoo · 22/12/2021 22:57

Which is the fate of the significant minority of Long Covid sufferers, who have lost the ability to earn a livelihood.

There is zero evidence there is any one condition called 'long covid.' There are a mixture of persistent symptoms being seen in some people who have had the virus (and no doubt a minority are having a really bad time of it thanks to that), but there is every chance that most people will fully recover over the longer term. You are talking as if a miasma is passing through cities and people are turning into zombies as if by magic.