Frightened by Dr Nabbarro video

[Whatisthisworld]

Are we going to get ill?

That video 😨

@hamstersarse

He's a psychopath

You sound like an irrational teenager.

@vera99

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10314249/Ive-never-concerned-pandemic-tonight-Covid-19-envoy-warns.html

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'best comment' Utter rubbish

'worst comment' Shame on the anti vaxxers.

Dunning Kruger affect in action can always rely on the DM comments to demonstrate this.

A few Dr's have said similar over the past few days, Omicron is a game changer.

We just need to follow the same sort of rules we did earlier in the pandemic. Wash hands, sanitise, mask, social distance.

I think eventually we will all get it, so I'm focusing on doing all I can to ensure that my body is in the best shape to fight it off, decent diet, high in vitamins, multivitamins to help immunity, daily exercise, ensuring my asthma is controlled and being upto date with all vaccines that are required. Its all we can do really.

I'm hearing what he is saying.

But I'm thinking what has happened in South Africa? where the rate of infection with omicron appears to have slowed down somewhat - instead of increasing even more.

Their population is quite a bit younger, but numbers wise - around 60 million in total - so similar to UK.

Wonderful Whitty is holding his head in his hands “Oh poo…I was trying to relay the facts in a calm and measured way but he’s just sent a wave of panic around the nation” 😳

@Imdreamingofapeacefulxmas just like what @motorina said.
This is big on our Agenda and not wanting to scare people, however we should all take responsibility of doing our best not to spread. Community services, social care not just the nhs will be overwhelmed. Staff shortage is already at critical point ... so whilst it May not be as bad as last year in terms of death due to a high number of vaccinated people, it is still a very serious concern in terms of spreading rapidly and affecting services

@CrispsnDips

Wonderful Whitty is holding his head in his hands “Oh poo…I was trying to relay the facts in a calm and measured way but he’s just sent a wave of panic around the nation” 😳

Chris Witty, who just told a news conference:

"This is a really serious threat at the moment. The how big a threat - there are several things we don't know, but all the things that we do know, are bad."

"And the principle one being the speed at which this is moving, it is moving at an absolutely phenomenal pace."

I think they are both saying the same thing.

Mororina thanks!
I don't know why you tagged me??

Amisilly, I get it but hard not to mix and socialise when in schools at the moment in crowds of maskless people, no ventilation etc

But I'm thinking what has happened in South Africa? where the rate of infection with omicron appears to have slowed down somewhat - instead of increasing even more.

Their population is quite a bit younger, but numbers wise - around 60 million in total - so similar to UK.

I think it's really difficult to make the comparison. Average age and population density are both far lower in SA and they are currently going into summer which is typically when infection rates fall, although I don't think their average winter temperatures are that cold. SA also has a much lower rate of vaccination at the moment.

I think we have to wait and see but do what we can to mitigate the risk.

@Imdreamingofapeacefulxmas

Amisilly, I get it but hard not to mix and socialise when in schools at the moment in crowds of maskless people, no ventilation etc

People keep saying this but my DC’s secondary school are pretty much all wearing masks in class with windows open, and over half have had at least one dose of vaccine.

I live on a fairly busy road and have just watched a quite elderly very portly lady who has just gone past on a mobility scooter smoking a fag. I doubt you see that in South Africa, there's the rub.

Trebor that's great for your school but my dc school do not wear masks at all, and where I work there is no mask compliance either.

@Imdreamingofapeacefulxmas where I am secondary schools masks are mandatory in communal areas but not in classrooms - however some schools are giving children the choice of wearing in classrooms if they wish to. In my son secondary school, they have been very strict with mask and washing hands and staggering lunch times. This has been pretty effective.

It must come trim the head neither dc school pushes masks or anything and my setting is more on the "we can't force them to" side.
Of course we can't but we can make it clear that is what we want if we want it. Seems like we don't

No dc wear them in communal areas.

Last week the message was the healthy wealthy in the west shouldn’t take boosters and the vaccine be redirected to the developing world.
Now we’re all to get boosters sharpish.
I’d booked mine anyway...

I mean what do they expect us to do?
We’re all just doing what we thinks right.

@vera99

I live on a fairly busy road and have just watched a quite elderly very portly lady who has just gone past on a mobility scooter smoking a fag. I doubt you see that in South Africa, there's the rub.

"With an obesity rate of 28.3%, South Africa is sub-Saharan Africa’s fattest nation, and the third fattest country in the continent. Obesity affects women than men in South Africa, as well as a significant population of the country's children. Researchers claim that recent demographic and socioeconomic changes in the country have led to dietary changes that have triggered obesity."

"With an obesity rate of 27.8%, the United Kingdom (UK) is the third fattest country in Europe, and the fattest in Western Europe. One in five pregnant women in the UK have a BMI greater than 30. The World Obesity Federation has predicted that if obesity in the UK is not effectively tackled, the cost of treating obesity-related health problems will reach a whopping $31 billion per year in 2025."

both from World Atlas

@milkyaqua They smoke about the same as well 15% UK 20% SA so bang goes that theory.

@Rocket1982

It obviously would NOT be a good idea for health care workers to go to work while infected, not because of any risk to themselves, but to the sick, elderly and vulnerable people they are treating (the people most vulnerable to covid in society are in hospital). The severe illness/death rate would have to be the same as the common cold, and omicron is a long way from that.

How do you know? The best scientists in the world don’t know this yet!

@vera99 It's summer there now - that would be a factor?

@Silverswirl I think we have lots of evidence to back this up from care homes where staff brought the virus in despite PPE through asymptomatic transmission. We don't need to be the "best scientists in the world " to know this.

Scratch the Nobel Prize now, let's call it Best Scientists In The World prize instead

Ventilation and mask-wearing indoors have always been the best basic forms of defence. In South Africa they enforce it as well.

businesstech.co.za/news/lifestyle/470164/thousands-of-south-africans-arrested-for-not-wearing-masks/

How do you know? The best scientists in the world don’t know this yet!

You can already tell it's not a common cold from the hospitalisation rates which have risen in South Africa. They don't yet know exactly where it is in terms of disease severity (hospitalisation rates seem to be lower in adults but higher in children than for delta), but there is certainly enough data to rule out the hypothesis that its severity is the same as the common cold.

@Rocket1982

How do you know? The best scientists in the world don’t know this yet!

You can already tell it's not a common cold from the hospitalisation rates which have risen in South Africa. They don't yet know exactly where it is in terms of disease severity (hospitalisation rates seem to be lower in adults but higher in children than for delta), but there is certainly enough data to rule out the hypothesis that its severity is the same as the common cold.

They do not know this. They barely know this for delta amongst healthy adults and kids. Let alone a variant which has only been with us for 2 weeks. Scientists are saying they do not know how ill it makes you. It could well be less than a cold.
If you are going by SA stats of who is in hospital that is an extremely unreliable source.