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Independent sage: circuit breaker lockdown needed now

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XmasGoose · 15/12/2021 18:01

I see Independent Sage have said that an immediate circuit breaker lockdown is needed to protect the NHS.

This would involve a total ban on household mixing, all bars, restaurants and indoor venues closing and schools shutting early for Christmas.

Is this needed now to protect the NHS and save lives? Personally I wouldn’t comply with another lockdown.

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Booklover3 · 15/12/2021 21:40

@Trixiefirecracker

I’m sorry *@HesterShaw1* but you don’t seem to grasp what a shitty situation we are in and will continue to be in. Lockdowns were not dealing with the effects of prior lockdowns, they were trying to manage variant upon variant appearing and omicron will not be the last. Each time we are in a very different boat and we can’t tweak the vaccines fast enough, so what we have left are social measures.

No @Trixiefirecracker I’m sorry but you don’t seem to understand… if you keep locking down there won’t be much left to be saved. A lot of it will go bust.

Marianne1234 · 15/12/2021 21:42

When this all started, wasn’t in the least bit afraid about covid myself. I was worried about passing it to someone vulnerable but I wasn’t scared for me.

Last Christmas, when they announced lockdown and it was all grim faces at the press conferences, it was the first time I genuinely felt scared. I remember watching Jolly Old Saint Nic on the podium of doom and thinking, maybe there is something here they aren’t telling us. I didn’t see my family that Christmas. They were scared too.

And now we learn that the fucking powers that be weren’t scared at all. They were still partying. While we were scared.

The lot of them can fuck off.

Againstmachine · 15/12/2021 21:42

I reckon my town Facebook group would be up for that.

You dread to think how the stasi happened but I've learnt it's very easy.

Trixiefirecracker · 15/12/2021 21:42

@Booklover3 sorry, your post makes no sense, ‘a lot of it will go bust?’

CallMeNutribullet · 15/12/2021 21:45

They can fuck off to the other side of fuck then fuck off a bit more.
I'd seriously consider joining a protest.

VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 21:46

@Againstmachine

I reckon my town Facebook group would be up for that.

You dread to think how the stasi happened but I've learnt it's very easy.

Oh absolutely. If there's one thing the last two years has shown us, it's that some people would do brilliantly in totalitarian societies.

IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas · 15/12/2021 21:46

[quote Zotter]IWannaWishYouANutNutsChristmas

It's not like him to be so emphatic.

You can listen to him saying all that emphatically here

[/quote] I wasn't suggesting that it wasn't true.

I heard him earlier.

It's just he's usually a lot more jovial and urbane.

Againstmachine · 15/12/2021 21:49

Oh absolutely. If there's one thing the last two years has shown us, it's that some people would do brilliantly in totalitarian societies.

It is really scary these people don't care they will inform ect. They don't even care about right and wrong.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 15/12/2021 21:49

@ChequerBoard

"I bought private healthcare a couple of months ago. I'd rather "protect the NHS" by never using it again than carry on restricting my life"

That's great, if you need elective (planned care) that's fine. Where are you going to when you need emergency care? When you break your leg, have a car accident, appendicitis, a heart attack, a stroke?

Your private healthcare insurance isn't going to help you then. You'll be queuing at the doors of A&E with everyone else.

A stroke? Heart attack? At 31 years old? If that happens to me at my age then I'll take that as a sign that something is seriously wrong with me and my number is probably up soon anyway.

In my entire life I've been in hospital once and that was to give birth. I'm very happy to take my chances.

Trixiefirecracker · 15/12/2021 21:51

@Waxonwaxoff0 unfortunately, if you have children you will inevitably find yourself at A snd E at some point.

Booklover3 · 15/12/2021 21:53

@Trixiefirecracker I think you are being deliberately obtuse because from your posts all you care about is lockdown.

The economy will go bust. Businesses will go bust. People won’t be able to pay for food, heating or housing because they’ll be too busy paying for the lockdowns in their taxes. Because of the debt there will be less money for the NHS so that’ll go bust.

TheKeatingFive · 15/12/2021 21:55

unfortunately, if you have children you will inevitably find yourself at A snd E at some point.

What's this based on? I've a 7 year old and a 3 year old and I've never found myself in A&E. I doubt I'm alone in that.

Againstmachine · 15/12/2021 21:57

unfortunately, if you have children you will inevitably find yourself at A snd E at some point

It's a while ago but neither me nor my sister ended up in a and e

CheesecakeAddict · 15/12/2021 21:57

To protect the NHS what we actually need to do is fund it properly, pay HCPs a competitive salary and take their work life balance seriously so it becomes somewhere people want to work. It doesn't matter how many vaccines we get, this extra burden will always be too much for what was already a stretched thin service in the first place.

screwcovid · 15/12/2021 21:58

@Waxonwaxoff0

Independent Sage can get fucked.

This made me lol

Trixiefirecracker · 15/12/2021 21:59

@Booklover3, I had no idea what you were trying to say. It’s a circuit breaker, better that than a full lockdown. Better that than so many unnecessary deaths, not just from Covid but because hospitals are completely overwhelmed.

TheKeatingFive · 15/12/2021 22:00

It’s a circuit breaker, better that than a full lockdown.

But when has a circuit breaker actually achieved anything?

herecomesthsun · 15/12/2021 22:02

Let me see, when did we try a circuit breaker in England?

I can't remember one.

Againstmachine · 15/12/2021 22:02

, I had no idea what you were trying to say. It’s a circuit breaker, better that than a full lockdown. Better that than so many unnecessary deaths, not just from Covid but because hospitals are completely overwhelmed.

But I dependent sage rightly so fit have a say

VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 22:02

The Welsh one probably made Amazon a few quid.

Againstmachine · 15/12/2021 22:03

*Let me see, when did we try a circuit breaker in England?

I can't remember one.*

November 2020 didnt happen for you then.

Trixiefirecracker · 15/12/2021 22:04

Well clearly it won’t have much chance of making a difference because no one is going to adhere to it anyway. 🧐

herecomesthsun · 15/12/2021 22:04

@Againstmachine

*Let me see, when did we try a circuit breaker in England?

I can't remember one.*

November 2020 didnt happen for you then.

was that not a lockdown?

VikingOnTheFridge · 15/12/2021 22:05

@Trixiefirecracker

Well clearly it won’t have much chance of making a difference because no one is going to adhere to it anyway. 🧐

This is an important point. It should be obvious, but whatever a particular lockdown is aimed at achieving will not happen if the population don't choose to observe it.

Trixiefirecracker · 15/12/2021 22:05

It was a lockdown.

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