How worried are you?

[Crapslattern]

On a scale of 1-10?

I'm triple vaxxed but haven't had Covid yet (lucky me)!

I'd put myself on about a 5 anxiety wise for Delta, a 7/8 for Omicron.

Just don't know who or what to believe on infection risks...

Well I'm isolating in my room because I am really sick & we (DH, me & the kids) live with my elderly parents.

Waiting for me PCR result still. So pretty bloody worried right about now!

@dilly123 so sorry for your loss

Am Triple jabbed thankfully!

[quote NotSonicTheHedgehog]@LifeIsWhat thank you [/quote]
A good friend's close relative committed suicide during the last lockdown. It is so so sad and it destroyed my friend too.
This relative was already depressed, and lockdown/cutting off from the family and friends was deadly to him. No one realised that he just could not take it anymore.
Take care, ask for help if needed and remember all will be better. :)

Oh @dilly123 I'm so sorry X

0 for covid
11 for the general direction of travel, I basically want to jump out the window. Will this ever end

Argh. The lack of logic here is frustrating. Almost everyone is saying they are not at all worried about catching it themselves but they are really worried about lockdowns/restrictions etc.

The best way to avoid lockdowns and restrictions IMO? Make sure you don’t get covid. Because even if YOU are not that unwell with it, you are a vector for spreading it to other people, some of whom may be very unwell and need hospital treatment. Which then fills up the hospitals, government panics because we’re reaching capacity, new restrictions.

Or even if you have it mildly, if you need time off work you are then going to contribute to the biggest en masse sick leave we’ve ever had. As a pp said, the practicalities and knock on impact of a significant proportion of the country not being able to do their jobs at the same time is going to be quite astounding. Even if literally no-one dies of Covid. If we have high numbers of shop workers, teachers, NHS staff, firefighters, bus drivers etc off sick at the same time then we’ll all be fucked in a variety of ways.

So even if you’re not worried about catching Covid because you don’t think you’ll be seriously ill - which most people won’t - it really is sensible to try and avoid it so that the country doesn’t grind to a halt. This is why the government will need to put restrictions in place, because people will carry on going to soft play and pubs and all sorts because they “refuse to live in fear of a virus” and then they’ll get it, along with X million other people. And then people will be angry that their “freedom is being taken away”. Even though the price for freedom to go to soft play might be a functioning food supply chain and nhs and education system.

@Newnews

Argh. The lack of logic here is frustrating. Almost everyone is saying they are not at all worried about catching it themselves but they are really worried about lockdowns/restrictions etc.

The best way to avoid lockdowns and restrictions IMO? Make sure you don’t get covid. Because even if YOU are not that unwell with it, you are a vector for spreading it to other people, some of whom may be very unwell and need hospital treatment. Which then fills up the hospitals, government panics because we’re reaching capacity, new restrictions.

Or even if you have it mildly, if you need time off work you are then going to contribute to the biggest en masse sick leave we’ve ever had. As a pp said, the practicalities and knock on impact of a significant proportion of the country not being able to do their jobs at the same time is going to be quite astounding. Even if literally no-one dies of Covid. If we have high numbers of shop workers, teachers, NHS staff, firefighters, bus drivers etc off sick at the same time then we’ll all be fucked in a variety of ways.

So even if you’re not worried about catching Covid because you don’t think you’ll be seriously ill - which most people won’t - it really is sensible to try and avoid it so that the country doesn’t grind to a halt. This is why the government will need to put restrictions in place, because people will carry on going to soft play and pubs and all sorts because they “refuse to live in fear of a virus” and then they’ll get it, along with X million other people. And then people will be angry that their “freedom is being taken away”. Even though the price for freedom to go to soft play might be a functioning food supply chain and nhs and education system.

You’re right. Except that no one who has said they’re not worried about covid has said they’re not going to do anything to avoid it, or that they’re wilfully going to catch it. The question was simply how worried are you about catching it. For me, that’s 0. I’m still being sensible about avoiding it though.

7-8 I’m fairly worried about catching it and not being able too look after my children. I’m due to go on holiday on Sunday I wish I could cancel but I’d loose all the money.

@Newnews

Argh. The lack of logic here is frustrating. Almost everyone is saying they are not at all worried about catching it themselves but they are really worried about lockdowns/restrictions etc.

The best way to avoid lockdowns and restrictions IMO? Make sure you don’t get covid. Because even if YOU are not that unwell with it, you are a vector for spreading it to other people, some of whom may be very unwell and need hospital treatment. Which then fills up the hospitals, government panics because we’re reaching capacity, new restrictions.

Or even if you have it mildly, if you need time off work you are then going to contribute to the biggest en masse sick leave we’ve ever had. As a pp said, the practicalities and knock on impact of a significant proportion of the country not being able to do their jobs at the same time is going to be quite astounding. Even if literally no-one dies of Covid. If we have high numbers of shop workers, teachers, NHS staff, firefighters, bus drivers etc off sick at the same time then we’ll all be fucked in a variety of ways.

So even if you’re not worried about catching Covid because you don’t think you’ll be seriously ill - which most people won’t - it really is sensible to try and avoid it so that the country doesn’t grind to a halt. This is why the government will need to put restrictions in place, because people will carry on going to soft play and pubs and all sorts because they “refuse to live in fear of a virus” and then they’ll get it, along with X million other people. And then people will be angry that their “freedom is being taken away”. Even though the price for freedom to go to soft play might be a functioning food supply chain and nhs and education system.

Agreed. It's ok to admit you don't want to get sick

Actual covid - 1 or 2
Healthcare generally over winter - 4
Restrictions - 8 or 9

Not worried about Covid-All my household have had it,My Husband suffered the most but really it was just like a bad hangover with a cold.
I will be pissed off if they decide to lockdown again-I worry for my children-they need School and their friends.
I am half expecting a bloody lockdown though! However my Christmas won't be changed as I will still have our parents round, to hell with it all.
I will be annoyed though because we have booked a lot of meals out and events for the kids which will be cancelled.

@LittleBabyCheeses quite a lot of people have implied or said that they don’t really care if they catch it. And a lot of people are also actually living like they don’t care if they catch Covid eg the nightclubs were still all very busy in my city this weekend

Catching Covid 0
Dying from Covid 0
My life being further destroyed by Covid eg no job, homeless, suicidal between 7 and 10 depending on my mood each day

[quote Newnews]@LittleBabyCheeses quite a lot of people have implied or said that they don’t really care if they catch it. And a lot of people are also actually living like they don’t care if they catch Covid eg the nightclubs were still all very busy in my city this weekend[/quote]
I doubt many of the people on this thread were in nightclubs at the weekend, but I might be wrong 🤷🏻‍♀️

Not worried

Covid - 3 for me, 6 for my unvaccinated DH.
Lockdown and disruption - 5/6

[quote Zotter]Listening to Dr Nabarro of WHO stresses to me the risk is our NHS being overwhelmed due to the expected extremely high cases of omicron even if turns out to be milder and more and more double vaccinated and booster.

[/quote] Dr Nabarro knows his stuff. He is not a Tory. Listen to him folks.

@LittleBabyCheeses don’t be disingenuous. You see what I’m getting at. Lots of people are implying that they intend on living their lives as usual until there are restrictions - and lots of people on MN also openly say they would not comply with restrictions. I can understand why, people are fed up and it’s been going on so long. But it’s a vicious circle and the more that people go about their normal business as usual and socialise in enclosed stuffy spaces, the more likely we are to have formal restrictions put in place. And then people will whinge that their freedom has been taken away.

WHO special envoy Dr Nabarro’s exact words:

“We're concerned that people are dismissing Omicron as mild. Even if it is less severe, the sheer number of cases will overwhelm health systems."

"Wear facemasks. Maintain physical distance. Keep windows open. Practice superb hygiene."

I am about 1-2. We all had Delta in August, which rather constrained the Summer hols, but we've a mini break tomorrow and we are infeasibly excited about a few hours down on the coast.

We've an outdoor party this weekend. It is mild so it is probable that most guests would have been outdoors supervising kids anyway.

We're keeping things quiet for Xmas, and it's substantially ordered. Worst case, we've some great curries in the freezer.

We holding off plans after Xmas.

[quote enjoyingscience]@NightmareSlashDelightful -I think the macro view is shifting because most people are vaccinated and we know vaccines are very effective at stopping serious illness. So the view changes and the risk changes. I guess the demographics here are skewed towards younger to middle aged people, where the vaccines will have taken the risk of death down to very very low levels, even with ore existing conditions.

I’m definitely incredibly worried about the impact of massive numbers having to isolate- the country will grind to a halt. If we reach 1m/day infections, and everyone isolates for ten days, one in 6 ish will be isolating at any given time, and it won’t be evenly distributed, it will take out whole workplaces at once. We’ll be back to the bad times of shortages and panic buying very very fast.[/quote]
@enjoyingscience - yes, this is my big concern too. I’m on another thread where people think it’s reasonable for someone to walk out of work because their colleague was a contact of someone who has tested positive, despite the colleague testing negative! If perfectly healthy people start putting themselves into isolation too we are definitely doomed.

@Zotter

WHO special envoy Dr Nabarro’s exact words:

“We're concerned that people are dismissing Omicron as mild. Even if it is less severe, the sheer number of cases will overwhelm health systems."

"Wear facemasks. Maintain physical distance. Keep windows open. Practice superb hygiene."

Yes and this it what the media should be ramming down people's necks not Johnson's zoom quiz..

@Zotter

WHO special envoy Dr Nabarro’s exact words:

“We're concerned that people are dismissing Omicron as mild. Even if it is less severe, the sheer number of cases will overwhelm health systems."

"Wear facemasks. Maintain physical distance. Keep windows open. Practice superb hygiene."

Also his eact words

David Nabarro, World Health Organization special envoy for covid-19, has separately appealed to government leaders: “Stop using lockdowns as a primary means of controlling the virus. Develop better systems for doing it.” Speaking in an interview with Spectator magazine he said, “The only way that lockdowns are justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources and protect your healthcare workers.”

I've had it My husband has Our three under 2 (at the time) had it and were the least affected.