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Anyone not getting a booster?

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LifesTooShortYOLO · 12/12/2021 20:03

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?

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godmum56 · 12/12/2021 22:21

@maryzx
"I am apoplectic about the idea that the first two jabs were "worthless". So we all have the third one in order to prevent Omicron from spreading.
Then what? The third one turns out to be "worthless", because another variant comes along.
It is time we accepted that it's going to mutate and we're stuck with variants (which will, btw, do what they do, and become more contagious and less deadly), and just got on with our lives and gave it no more thought."

They are not worthless but they don't give as much protection as they will if boosted with a different vaccine

BubblingRiver · 12/12/2021 22:22

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Pickles89 · 12/12/2021 22:22

My mum won't be. She didn't even have the second as the first, AZ, made her even poorlier than she already was (long Covid/ME). I do worry about her being so vulnerable. I want mine but would rather wait til mid Jan than rush for it now.

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Darbs76 · 12/12/2021 22:23

@paranoidnamechanger - no doubt passports will want people to have boosters. My booster is on my NHS app now. It shows up after a couple of weeks

Silverswirl · 12/12/2021 22:24

@LookNorthbyNorthWest

I think our recent medical successes (esp. antibiotics and vaccinations) have blinded us to a harsh truth - human life is fragile, there are lots of diseases that can easily kill us, and we're in a never-ending war to stop them from doing so.

Up until last century we often lost this battle at an early age. Even in rich, advanced nations a great many children never reached 5 years old because they succumbed to an infection of one kind or another. Several hundred years ago, the black death killed around 1/3 to 1/2 of all people alive in Europe.

Covid isn't new. It's old. This pandemic... this is what life used to be like before medical science rescued us. It's not fearmongering to say viruses pose an existential threat to our way of life. History shows us it's a frightening reality. If we want to get back to the security of life from three years ago (and stay there), we can't do it without medical science.

What we must grasp is that Covid could have been worse and we may well see a worse virus in our lifetimes. The technology that has enabled us to create a vaccination so quickly is not a threat, its a wonder of science, and the vaccinations should not he seen as a burden but as ongoing freedom from a way of living our ancestors were desperate to escape. We will need new vaccines against new diseases, with increasing frequency if ongoing deforestation continues in places like China.

The period from the 1940s to the 2010s was an exceptional period, being one in which agressive viral and bacterial diseases were very unlikely to kill most otherwise healthy people. But it was an exception, not the rule. If we want to keep that exceptional period going, we may need to embrace regular vaccines. It's a small price to pay, really, especially considering all the other things we put up with to maintain our way of living.

Thank you for this post. I needed to hear it. I am extremely fearful of the vaccines but this makes sense I think the thing in most worried about it long term issues - something being found in future months / years from having repeated jabs or mixing jabs with such little testing that is devastating health wise to a large number or people including children.
teaandtoastwithmarmite · 12/12/2021 22:24

I've had mine on Thursday but I'm questioning it now. Not sure why just a weird feeling I can't shake off.

hamstersarse · 12/12/2021 22:25

Obese people took up 1 million hospital admissions last year. Much more than covid. And it’s entirely preventable. Covid is less preventable than obesity. That’s why it’s ludicrous not to be tackling this if it’s all about preserving health care.

Also obese people get much sicker with Covid

It’s a lose lose with such high levels of obesity in the population. Taking up resources and getting sicker with Covid

They also have a much higher viral load and transmit covid much more than metabolically healthy people. It’s like 80% more!

It’s totally unreasonable to say that obesity does not play a role here.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/12/2021 22:26

When I went to get my booster, they were offering a flu jab at the same time

Yes, I'm aware this has been happening and also aware the NHS say it's safe
So I'd like to know why some pharmacists and nurses are advising folk to leave 7 or sometimes 14 days between jabs

These are after all highly qualified professionals, are they not?

DressingPafe · 12/12/2021 22:26

FWIW I’m not particularly blaming Boris for anything. He hasn’t always necessarily made the right decisions, but it would have been a tough job for anyone! I certainly could not have done any better. But yes the public, in general, are getting a bit fed up of the whole jab, jab and yet another jab and then probably several more. As I am now over 50 I was offered a flu jab, which I refused, as is my right. It is also my right to decline a booster. People trying to “shame” me into it, will make no difference at all.

CoffeeWithCheese · 12/12/2021 22:32

@Fashionista1995

Because I’m still recovering from the first 2…
Same. I'm still having side effects from the first two which have more of an impact on my quality of life than I'm happy to risk making worse, so I'm not having the booster any time soon.
ThatWasThat · 12/12/2021 22:32

ffs, get the booster, keep yourself as safe as possible. The outlook is bleak without it.

godmum56 · 12/12/2021 22:32

[quote Darbs76]@paranoidnamechanger - no doubt passports will want people to have boosters. My booster is on my NHS app now. It shows up after a couple of weeks[/quote]
so long? Mine was on there later same day and my flu vac was on there before I got home (15 minute drive)

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/12/2021 22:33

Obese people took up 1 million hospital admissions last year. Much more than covid

I knew it was bad but had no idea it was quite so many; so much for the issue of obesity having no relevance Hmm

And yes, DressingPafe, without doubt many are a bit "hmm" about having jab after jab after jab, but I guess that at least it's keeping the shareholders happy
Every cloud and all that ...

godmum56 · 12/12/2021 22:35

@Puzzledandpissedoff

When I went to get my booster, they were offering a flu jab at the same time

Yes, I'm aware this has been happening and also aware the NHS say it's safe
So I'd like to know why some pharmacists and nurses are advising folk to leave 7 or sometimes 14 days between jabs

These are after all highly qualified professionals, are they not?

I have no idea.....unless the person has a pre-existing condition, they should be giving the same advice as the NHS. Do you personally know any of the pharmacists or nurses who are giving this advice?
Greentrees2021 · 12/12/2021 22:36

I'm undecided largely because my lived experience is lots of double jabbed acquaintances catching it but I know noone who has had it twice (despite all the different variants alpha/delta etc). Therefore, I can only conclude from my real world experience that protection from natural infection is good and if Omicron is mild, then from a personal (perhaps selfish) perspective is it not better to get the superior real world immunity before the next variant which may not be so mild comes along?! I wonder if this is why the government are so keen to speed up the boosters because if Omicron is proved to be mild then individuals will choose not to get boosted (as better from an individual perspective) but from a societal perspective it's better to be jabbed hence they are trying to push this through now.

Finknottlesnewt · 12/12/2021 22:36

I had the booster because I got Covid just as my initial vaccine efficacy was at an end .. I am CEV. It put me in hospital on oxygen support.. and in bed for 11 days..

... god knows where I would have been without 2 vaccines . ! Couldn't wait to get my vaccine !

PizzaCrust · 12/12/2021 22:38

Probably not. Haven’t had any vaccines yet and I can’t see that changing, currently. I’m not an “anti vaxxer” by any means (all my children are fully vaccinated, etc), but I’m sitting on the fence with this once.

3 vaccines is already quite excessive. If it keeps mutating, will people just have to keep getting jabbed over and over and over again? Surely there comes a point where it needs to just run it’s course.

Lysianthus · 12/12/2021 22:42

@DressingPafe

FWIW I’m not particularly blaming Boris for anything. He hasn’t always necessarily made the right decisions, but it would have been a tough job for anyone! I certainly could not have done any better. But yes the public, in general, are getting a bit fed up of the whole jab, jab and yet another jab and then probably several more. As I am now over 50 I was offered a flu jab, which I refused, as is my right. It is also my right to decline a booster. People trying to “shame” me into it, will make no difference at all.
Absolutely your right. But just out of interest, we’re you pissed off that your parents made you have the mmr, tb, bcg, polio and whatever other vaccines available and sometimes mandatory when you were young?
godmum56 · 12/12/2021 22:43

@LookNorthbyNorthWest

yes exactly this. I have got the penny policy that my grandmother took out on my oldest sister. It was usual to do this to pay for a baby's funeral. Flu used to be known as the old man's friend because it took so many. My grandmother died of infected leg ulcers...fever jackets and croup kettles.....all gone now and looked on as quaint history

Whattochoosenow · 12/12/2021 22:43

I’ve had my booster but that’s the last for me. The only way I’m having another one now is if it’s a requirement to go abroad on holiday or if there’s a particularly bad strain going about.

NMC2022 · 12/12/2021 22:45

@Puzzledandpissedoff

When I went to get my booster, they were offering a flu jab at the same time

Yes, I'm aware this has been happening and also aware the NHS say it's safe
So I'd like to know why some pharmacists and nurses are advising folk to leave 7 or sometimes 14 days between jabs

These are after all highly qualified professionals, are they not?

I think it changed I remember they were saying 14 days then 7 and then it seemed to change I had mine on the same day
godmum56 · 12/12/2021 22:46

@Greentrees2021

I'm undecided largely because my lived experience is lots of double jabbed acquaintances catching it but I know noone who has had it twice (despite all the different variants alpha/delta etc). Therefore, I can only conclude from my real world experience that protection from natural infection is good and if Omicron is mild, then from a personal (perhaps selfish) perspective is it not better to get the superior real world immunity before the next variant which may not be so mild comes along?! I wonder if this is why the government are so keen to speed up the boosters because if Omicron is proved to be mild then individuals will choose not to get boosted (as better from an individual perspective) but from a societal perspective it's better to be jabbed hence they are trying to push this through now.
if you catch it you incubate it and if you incubate it it can mutate. The less time that the virus is active in the body, the less chance of mutation.
milkyaqua · 12/12/2021 22:47

@LifesTooShortYOLO

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?
Yet another one-post wonder fermenting dissent. Oh, look, it's working.
Mamascoven · 12/12/2021 22:49

@PizzaCrust

Exactly. How many are people willing to take? A lot of vaccinated people I know say they have had them to go on holiday , yet havent been on holiday due to the farce of actually getting onto a plane. Meanwhile we have a caravan in the UK and had a brilliant summer.

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