8th Dec 6pm press conference

[PurpleDaisies]

Whitty
Vallance
Johnson

I wonder what they’ll say.

@EnnAndJay

Thank you *@rrhuth*.

We can see how bad it is in South Africa and they started with 0. We're starting with 50000.

Well that’s because they are testing pitifully low numbers daily compared to ours. Them reported tests 7/12. 52,300 Us for the same day 1,051,987

Having tested one million extra people, it seems more than logical we will ‘find’ more cases but that doesn’t necessarily mean there ARE more cases

@PAFMO I tagged you because I was responding to your post. Surely you realised that. It certainly wasn't intended to cause you the offence your response implies it did. Vaccine and natural immunity may be better but my antibodies are still present over a year later so I feel no need to be vaccinated. In fact at my most recent antibody test results , t13 month post infection claims that both infection and possibly vaccine antibodies are present. Obviously vaccine antibodies are not present so God knows why the report says that. Anyway apologies for tagging you again but I know no other way of alerting you to my post and to be honest you sound like a sanctimonious arse anyway.

@Quartz2208 we may not have highest rates this month but we have had ongoing high rates, large numbers of deaths, major impact on other healthcare etc. UK has had no respite through government choice.

We are all arguing over what we do, what about we do what Mother Nature intended let it run through the population unchecked see who is left at the end then move on

I wouldn't expect the "nuclear option" to be very popular on here, vicky, though there's a possibility that this is exactly what will happen no matter what we do

Which would perhaps be the ultimate irony ...

@rrhuth I'd only been out of isolation a few days when I had my second dose, I definitely did not need it, but I had to have it or miss an event abroad that was very important to me. I'm happy for you to have a dose monthly if you like, I wouldn't force you to not have it, but I won't get the same courtesy in return.

Expect we will be on a full lockdown after Christmas.

On the plus side working from home saves people the expense of fuel or public transport costs and helps to save the planet.

And in the negative side, it impacts business whose main trade come from office workers.

Lockdown does far more damage than people are suggesting

Much to younger age groups too.

[quote Summersdreaming]@rrhuth I'd only been out of isolation a few days when I had my second dose, I definitely did not need it, but I had to have it or miss an event abroad that was very important to me. I'm happy for you to have a dose monthly if you like, I wouldn't force you to not have it, but I won't get the same courtesy in return.[/quote]
I'm not in favour of compulsory vaccination.

But I do believe the science around vaccines.

[quote Labtest7]@PAFMO I tagged you because I was responding to your post. Surely you realised that. It certainly wasn't intended to cause you the offence your response implies it did. Vaccine and natural immunity may be better but my antibodies are still present over a year later so I feel no need to be vaccinated. In fact at my most recent antibody test results , t13 month post infection claims that both infection and possibly vaccine antibodies are present. Obviously vaccine antibodies are not present so God knows why the report says that. Anyway apologies for tagging you again but I know no other way of alerting you to my post and to be honest you sound like a sanctimonious arse anyway.[/quote]
It didn't offend me.
I just wondered why you'd tagged me with one of two findings from the Israel immunity study when your pp to which I replied was about more vaccinated people being in hospital.
Couldn't see any connection between the two things. Unless of course you're trying to infer that the vaccines don't work. Which would be silly. And wrong.
Obviously.

@MarshaBradyo

Lockdown does far more damage than people are suggesting

Much to younger age groups too.

The younger age groups are the ones who are bang up to date with technology.

They know how to keep in touch virtually.

@treedragon

Expect we will be on a full lockdown after Christmas.

On the plus side working from home saves people the expense of fuel or public transport costs and helps to save the planet.

And then drives the cost of public transport up for those essential workers who can't WFH.

@EnnAndJay

They may know how to, but they should never again be left with that as their only option.

They know how to keep in touch virtually.

You can opt in for this if you want and stick to Zoom for life but you are blind to the damage lockdown causes. It’s very sad at this point people are so unaware.

As if virtual meetups are any substitute for real ones. Some people on MN are so detached from reality. Young people want to be out meeting new people, dating, having life experiences. Not everyone is a middle aged MNer who wants to stay at home permanently.

For me one of the reasons I favour e.g. WFH is because I don't want to have to limit young people too much. I'm so cross the government have not done more for schools.

Arrogance, laziness, penny pinching, lack of care - if they'd sorted schools in summer 2020 neither Delta or Omicron would affect our children's education so much. Cunts.

@EnnAndJay Technology isn't everything; it doesn't replace the best years and experiences of your life. My DD has been affected so badly by lockdowns I am not sure she will ever return to what she was before. Not because she is scared of Covid, but because she has forgotten how to interact normally with people. My DM has managed far better, probably because she has lived her life already and had her time.

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On the plus side working from home saves people the expense of fuel or public transport costs and helps to save the planet.

I suppose but also has a knock on effect for business and the economy.

1. It's been 600-800 a day for the last five months.
2. Sage predicted 2,000-7,000 a day from Delta. It's never reached 1,000.

Expect we will be on a full lockdown after Christmas.

Or something close to that. We've got all the vaccines now. What would a lockdown be achieving then unless it was to become just 'a way of life' from now on out.

@ZippyZap

Boris to resign 🎉🎊🎊 now there's a party worth breaking rules for!!

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