What does everyone think about the banning of the unvaxxed in Germany?

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Abhorrent

Disgusting and horrifying. No one sane thinks this is appropriate or proportional.

@Aposterhasnoname, ah yes, my two favourite accusations in one handy post. Thick because I read further into the data than what is presented to me on the tv and an anti vaxxer because I don’t agree with the narrative. Why don’t you come back and reply to me when you age something more interesting and worthwhile to say?

I think it is terrifying. I hate to say it, but I am glad we left the EU if this is how things are going.
It is very easy to say you are ok with such measures if you happily go the vaccines. Many people who have not got it yet are not the anti-vaxx types that the media will have you believe. They are people who have had a bad reaction to the first jabs, people with health anxiety, people scared of side effects, those with needle/medical phobias.... being unvaccinated does not mean you are thick or are someone who is protesting out side schools.

Seems fair enough to me. I know a couple of German antivaxxers, there's large numbers in certain areas, deeply into conspiracy theories.

Agree 100% XenoBitch!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4416619-Germany-bans-unvaccinated-from-shops-and-pubs

The unvaccinated can still go to work, even in a pub and go to the supermarket and other things, they have not been sent home and locked up. If you have proof of a covid infection you can still do everything.

Quite boringly they are trying to save lives. Every infectious covid patient in ICU means about 6 ICU beds not available for birth complications, cancer patients, heart ops and all that other stuff

Am I right in thinking those who have already had Covid in Germany are OK?

Out of curiosity. Those who think it's abhorrent etc. What will you think when the hospitals can no longer cope and limit those accepted for treatment?

Because if hospital capacity is exceeded that will happen.

Desperate times = desperate measures.

I think it's going to be completely ineffective at reducing transmission. I think the scenes in Austria of police officers hunting for unvaccinated people in shops and on the street are disgusting. Who wants to live like that, vaxxed or not? And for such a marginal to non existent impact on the trajectory of the pandemic.

I think we will see a full lockdown in Germany very soon, the same as what happened in Austria, because this is a hopeless measure, probably more of a psy-op than anything.

I think it’s reasonable. We don’t simply have rights: we also have responsibilities. It’s tragic that people are dying of preventable illnesses as hospitals are full of unvaccinated patients who would likely not have needed treatment if they had taken the vaccine.

Wouldn't be a vaccine policy thread without the offensive references @Wankerchief

[quote Lostinacloud]@Aposterhasnoname, ah yes, my two favourite accusations in one handy post. Thick because I read further into the data than what is presented to me on the tv and an anti vaxxer because I don’t agree with the narrative. Why don’t you come back and reply to me when you age something more interesting and worthwhile to say?[/quote]
How did you read further into the data?
I always wonder how people who do their own research into things like vaccines actually do it, when they are not experts in the field or have the same level of resources or information available to do it.

It’s only offensive when it touches a nerve.

Well yes, it "touches the nerve" as you put it, of the Jewish community, who have repeatedly explained how offensive and upsetting these comparisons are, it completely belittles their suffering.

frightening…

I’m guessing the alternative is that NO-ONE goes out? Ie a lockdown.

If they’re already social distancing, wearing
masks, WFH, what else can they do to support the healthcare system?

I will think something very strange is going on @tilder. It wasn’t that long ago that we went through a winter season where barely anyone was vaccinated and yet the hospitals did manage to cope. Over 75% of all eligible people are now vaccinated and suddenly the hospitals won’t be able to cope with the last few unvaccinated? That’s not including some of the unvaccinated who are young healthy adults or teens or those who’ve now had covid and have natural immunity.

Additionally I will be angry that the government appears to have found a money tree for years of expensive vaccines for all but isn’t spending any of it on the NHS.

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Period prior to that.

I think it’s fine, mandatory vaccination isn’t a new thing, it’s a public health measure not some dystopian totalitarian nightmare.