Omicron New Variant Thread 2 *title edited by MNHQ at OP's request*

[Thewiseoneincognito]

Continuation of the last thread

Gyan C Mehta @GyanCMehta
This looks bad - In Norway there is a suspected omicron outbreak of 40-50 out of 120 fully vaccinated people, ( also tested negative before attending a company Christmas party last Friday… One employee had just returned from SA and tested positive.

www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/var-pa-julebord-i-solenergi-selskap/74788583
Norweigian source.

Thread title reads as if Omicron has a second variant.

Reported in 24 countries now.

Agree title is misleading

MNHQ may change the heading if we report.

Do we have any idea how it's affecting people yet?

@RedToothBrush

Gyan C Mehta *@GyanCMehta* This looks bad - In Norway there is a suspected omicron outbreak of 40-50 out of 120 fully vaccinated people, ( also tested negative before attending a company Christmas party last Friday… One employee had just returned from SA and tested positive.

www.dagbladet.no/nyheter/var-pa-julebord-i-solenergi-selskap/74788583
Norweigian source.

I can't read the article, perhaps someone could translate. Are these people seriously ill, or do they have symptoms that are different to previous variants?

www-dagbladet-no.translate.goog/nyheter/var-pa-julebord-i-solenergi-selskap/74788583?_x_tr_sl=no&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB

Google translate link

Doesn't say a huge amount tbh.

The mail online was leading earlier (its now the second story on the website) with an article about how a triple vaccinated Israeli thinks he contracted Omicron at a conference with 1250 people on 23rd November. In London.

He took three PCR tests on November 20, 21 and 24 - all negative. After returning to Israel he displayed symptoms and took a fourth PCR test (on 27th November) which was positive.

He could have got infected on the tube, the Docklands Light Railway, at the conference or in the airport (presumably that could also be the airport in Israel or on the plane itself too).

But that doesn't sound good either.

We’re not going to know for a few weeks.

So stop torturing yourselves.

It's a discussion forum though, so we aren't 'torturing' ourselves are we? Just talking about what's going on

Doesn't sound like there's much information at the moment about what's going on. I only clicked because the title inferred there was news in that there was a second Omicron variant.

Well I'd say that there's probably a pretty big number of cases in the UK now. And that is pretty transmittable even if you are double vaccinated or triple vaxxed.

So I think the important big question now moves to how serious it is.

@Sparklingbrook

Thread title reads as if Omicron has a second variant.

I must admit, I looked at the title and thought, FFS, already.

OP sounds like you need to request a title edit?

But thanks for the second thread.

I also thought it was another variant by the title lol.

But thanks for starting a new one OP

Would it have been helpful for newcomers to link to the first one?

He took three PCR tests on November 20, 21 and 24 - all negative. After returning to Israel he displayed symptoms and took a fourth PCR test (on 27th November) which was positive.

Maybe he caught it London but it isn't an absolute certainty. The average time between infection and onset of symptoms is 5 days but it can range from 1-14 days (with a few cases of longer incubation periods but I think it is something like 97% of cases are within 14 days of exposure). Incubation periods of 3 days or less (ie after he left the UK) are very common.

One of my DC caught delta in a super spreader event (so we can be very sure when he was infected). Everyone who was infected had symptoms within 24-48 hours after exposure.

F

This doesn't look great.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-emerging-picture-from-south-africa-suggests-omicron-variant-could-be-real-cause-for-concern-12484064

Interested in the data of this - marking place

Sky news are giving very mixed messages here.

4pm Wednesday "most omicron cases are mild" news.sky.com/story/covid-19-most-omicron-cases-are-mild-and-theres-no-evidence-to-suggest-vaccines-may-be-less-effective-against-the-variant-says-who-12483729

1am Thursday "Omicron a real cause for concern" news.sky.com/story/covid-19-emerging-picture-from-south-africa-suggests-omicron-variant-could-be-real-cause-for-concern-12484064

I'm surprised if the data did a 180 in those 9 hours

The mail online was leading earlier (its now the second story on the website) with an article about how a triple vaccinated Israeli thinks he contracted Omicron at a conference with 1250 people on 23rd November. In London.

Isn't this a good thing if true? Would suggest omicron has been around for over a week already and yet no increase in cases.

Besides he might "think" he caught it in London but we know that some people have a 10 day incubation period (hence the 10 day isolation) so very difficult to pin down date.