Are you really prepared to take every single vaccine

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It worries me that we may have to keep having vaccines going forward. I’m due my booster which I will take but I’m hearing that AZ are in the process of tweaking the current vaccine to combat the new strain. So we are then required to take another booster. Many variants can crop up, suppose another one does very soon. I’m concerned about the number of vaccines we could be taking. Is anyone else? And no I’m not an anti vaxer.

@Mydietstartstomorrow sorry you had COVID and were so ill. However I though the vaccine was to stop serious illness/ hospital admissions and death so the vaccine has kind of done it's job if you avoided hospital.
Obviously is it totally your decision whether you have a booster or not.

Yes yes, @ollyollyoxenfree the medical examiner Luca Tajana was lying, Francesca Donato was lying when she raised it, they are all lying blah blah..

What are the claims I am making? That there have been deaths linked to Covid? Well apart from this we have our very own covid vaccine linked death just this week. So that's true!

That people have genuine concerns over getting the booster?

They do! Its true!

I am not sure what your point is apart from putting your fingers in your ears and singing 'la la la'

It was you want it that reported my link as being fake - how embarrassing for you when I easily proved it was true

@LittleoldTERFy

Yes yes, *@ollyollyoxenfree* the medical examiner Luca Tajana was lying, Francesca Donato was lying when she raised it, they are all lying blah blah..

What are the claims I am making? That there have been deaths linked to Covid? Well apart from this we have our very own covid vaccine linked death just this week. So that's true!

That people have genuine concerns over getting the booster?

They do! Its true!

I am not sure what your point is apart from putting your fingers in your ears and singing 'la la la'

It was you want it that reported my link as being fake - how embarrassing for you when I easily proved it was true

Nope I didn't say you were lying, I didn't say the link was fake, I said it doesn't back up the claims being made, which is true.

What are the claims I am making? That there have been deaths linked to Covid? Well apart from this we have our very own covid vaccine linked death just this week. So that's true! That people have genuine concerns over getting the booster?

@LittleoldTERFy

The claims specifically that ....50% of these deaths were caused by the vaccine, which is also believed to be behind an unprecedented accumulation of lymphocytes found in the hearts, kidneys, livers and spleens of the deceased. - I said this in my post.

At no point have I suggested people shouldn't be concerned about having a booster, nor denied that anyone has died due to the vaccine. Not really sure where all this is coming from tbh.

“The link does not back up the claims you are making...

Often with these posts a study has been conducted, but the conclusions drawn are incredibly far from what was actually reported.

See the pfizer NLP animal model study and how anti-vaccine groups are reporting it.”

Is Ollyoxen one of the moderators? That would explain why so much has been deleted and is disappearing from conversation lately.

@ollyollyoxenfree what claims did I make?

And @MNHQ you shouldn't just go off the word of poster over something before you delete. I proved that article was genuine right down to the European Parliamentary member who posed the question. You are censoring posts when both sides need to be heard

@Smokeyfish

“The link does not back up the claims you are making...

Often with these posts a study has been conducted, but the conclusions drawn are incredibly far from what was actually reported.

See the pfizer NLP animal model study and how anti-vaccine groups are reporting it.”

Is Ollyoxen one of the moderators? That would explain why so much has been deleted and is disappearing from conversation lately.

If I was a moderator there would be far less misinformation from groups like FLCCC/HART/AFD et al floating around

I just don't get it. Get vaccinated, don't get vaccinated. But perhaps take a cursory look into the things you're quoting before copying and pasting them onto a parenting forum.

[quote LittleoldTERFy]@ollyollyoxenfree what claims did I make?

And @MNHQ you shouldn't just go off the word of poster over something before you delete. I proved that article was genuine right down to the European Parliamentary member who posed the question. You are censoring posts when both sides need to be heard[/quote]
I literally copied and posted it @LittleoldTERFy

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What are the claims I am making? That there have been deaths linked to Covid? Well apart from this we have our very own covid vaccine linked death just this week. So that's true! That people have genuine concerns over getting the booster?

@LittleoldTERFy

The claims specifically that ....50% of these deaths were caused by the vaccine, which is also believed to be behind an unprecedented accumulation of lymphocytes found in the hearts, kidneys, livers and spleens of the deceased. - I said this in my post.

At no point have I suggested people shouldn't be concerned about having a booster, nor denied that anyone has died due to the vaccine. Not really sure where all this is coming from tbh.

[quote LittleoldTERFy]@ollyollyoxenfree what claims did I make?

And @MNHQ you shouldn't just go off the word of poster over something before you delete. I proved that article was genuine right down to the European Parliamentary member who posed the question. You are censoring posts when both sides need to be heard[/quote]
There’s far more censoring going on on these boards than you’d like to think.

@ollyollyoxenfree

What are the claims I am making? That there have been deaths linked to Covid? Well apart from this we have our very own covid vaccine linked death just this week. So that's true! That people have genuine concerns over getting the booster?

@LittleoldTERFy

The claims specifically that ....50% of these deaths were caused by the vaccine, which is also believed to be behind an unprecedented accumulation of lymphocytes found in the hearts, kidneys, livers and spleens of the deceased. - I said this in my post.

At no point have I suggested people shouldn't be concerned about having a booster, nor denied that anyone has died due to the vaccine. Not really sure where all this is coming from tbh.

Well if you bother to copy the link at the bottom of the article - it goes in to German then google translate it. But honestly @ollyollyoxenfree, this is tiring.

I honestly couldn't give a fuck if you believe it or not but reporting it as fake is sly as these were genuine questions asked by Francesca Donato in the European Parliament. Take it up with her. Take it up with the medical examiner, take it up with the coroners court or the hospital why you can have access to these peoples autopsies.

I was asked a question up thread by another poster is it was because I was lazy or couldn't be bothered why I wasn't going to have the booster. She couldn't understand my train of thought - so I was explaining why I and other may feel the way we do. Its multifaceted and one of those reasons was because people were genuinely wary over new developments - then you jumped in half way through. Thats where is is coming from. you joined a conversation half way through.

Probably why you got the wrong end of the stick

yes @Smokeyfish it seems so.

Well if you bother to copy the link at the bottom of the article - it goes in to German then google translate it. But honestly @ollyollyoxenfree, this is tiring.

@LittleoldTERFy

As I have already said several times - those claims are not backed up by the original article. I am not denying the article exists or that it can't be translated from German into English....

There is so much high quality research by scientists with expertise in the area focussed on understanding the pathomechanisms underlying adverse effects associated with or caused by vaccination.

Why focus on something so obviously not (which is why it hasn't been picked up by "MSM" and is only widely reported on places like bitchute, telegram and odessee) when there is genuine research out there.

Porcupineintherough I have not said there are not side effects from Covid of course there are but I’m saying that people aren’t researching or even caring about the side effects of the vaccine, which are vast. I myself felt nauseous for 3 months after the first, 2 months after the second. Have been having continual headaches and menstrual irregularities since. Aching in all my joints.
The likelihood of me being hospitalised is less than 1% so I’m not exactly panicked over it. People need to be aware that it’s not necessarily the golden ticket everyone seems to think it is. And I’m allowed to have a choice the same way as I respect people whose choice it is to have it.

[quote LittleoldTERFy]I will post it again

Here are some questions that were asked in European Parliament by Francesca Donato on the 27th Of October 2021 in regards to the covid vaccine deaths and in particular the case of Camilla Canepa

www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-9-2021-004862_EN.html#def2[/quote]
My goodness Littleold - this is truly shocking.

Why mumsnet would have chosen to delete this, I don't know. Why would they have done?

@Mydietstartstomorrow sorry I must have misunderstood. I thought you said that youd had a serious bout of COVID so assumed youd been in hospital with it.

My goodness Littleold - this is truly shocking.Why mumsnet would have chosen to delete this, I don't know. Why would they have done?

...that isn't the post that was deleted

@Mydietstartstomorrow

Porcupineintherough I have not said there are not side effects from Covid of course there are but I’m saying that people aren’t researching or even caring about the side effects of the vaccine, which are vast. I myself felt nauseous for 3 months after the first, 2 months after the second. Have been having continual headaches and menstrual irregularities since. Aching in all my joints. The likelihood of me being hospitalised is less than 1% so I’m not exactly panicked over it. People need to be aware that it’s not necessarily the golden ticket everyone seems to think it is. And I’m allowed to have a choice the same way as I respect people whose choice it is to have it.

Well said.

@derxa I hope you get better soon

[quote mustlovegin]@derxa I hope you get better soon[/quote]
Thanks m'dear I do too.

And I’m allowed to have a choice the same way as I respect people whose choice it is to have it.

Yes @Mydietstartstomorrow

Researchers are actively surveying and looking into side effects associated with coronavirus vaccination which I hope is kind of helpful to hear. The narrative that they're being ignored and dismissed isn't true, but I appreciate the media isn't great at adequately reporting on this.

For example:

Johns Hopkins is one of five institutions selected by the National Institutes of Health to conduct research to explore the potential impacts of COVID-19 vaccination on menstruation. The five one-year grants, totaling $1.67 million, are funded by NIH’s Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and the NIH Office of Research on Women’s Health.

The NIH research grants were established after many women reported irregular menstrual periods and other menstrual changes after getting the COVID-19 vaccines.

www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/covid-19-news-study-to-investigate-impacts-of-covid-vaccines-on-menstruation

Yes I'll take everything I'm offered. Due to my health I have to get vaccinated against certain illnesses more often than healthy people so I see it the same as that.

No thanks
I've had covid and it was milder than many peoples vaccine reactions.

It's not like a flu vaccine at all. The flu vaccine doesn't use your body's own cells to produce an alien protein. What are the effects of asking your cells to do that 3 times in less than a year? And then again every 6months or whatever going forward? I don't know. But I'm not about to risk it for what amounted to a headache, feeling a bit tired and losing my sense of smell for 3 weeks.

If other people want it, that's their prerogative

I'm going to have the booster, if it becomes a yearly vaccine I'm not sure.
I've never had a flu or flu vaccine, I'm 41.

The flu vaccine doesn't use your body's own cells to produce an alien protein.

I think you might need to revise your reading matter/sources, and acknowledge the gaps in your actual understanding.

@morticiamarkle

No thanks I've had covid and it was milder than many peoples vaccine reactions.

It's not like a flu vaccine at all. The flu vaccine doesn't use your body's own cells to produce an alien protein. What are the effects of asking your cells to do that 3 times in less than a year? And then again every 6months or whatever going forward? I don't know. But I'm not about to risk it for what amounted to a headache, feeling a bit tired and losing my sense of smell for 3 weeks.

If other people want it, that's their prerogative

Well no the 'flu vaccine actually introduces an alien protein, if we're using that terminology

Causing your immune system to start making new cells and rearraging bits of DNA, resulting in permanant changes that can be made to sound scary but are just how the immune system responds to a pathogen.