Vaccinations to made a legal requirement in Austria from Feb 2022

[littlelordfuckleroy]

Days after Austria imposed a lockdown on the unvaccinated, it has announced a full national Covid-19 lockdown starting on Monday.

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said it would last at least 10 days and there would be a legal requirement to get vaccinated from 1 February 2022.

Jesus. I'm shocked by that. I'm not an antivaxxer but I still very concerned that a country could make any vaccine a legal requirement! I feel it's a step too far.

@RubyFakeLips

I agree with your initial post. I am very against people who are anti-vaccination but a state imposing this seems highly concerning, will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. I imagine like any enforced measures it will just cause those against to become even more entrenched in their views and does validate their feeling persecution.

However, while I appreciate you didn't intend to cause offence, and offending people isn't illegal (yet), as another poster has said, your use of the term Star of Alexander is exceptionally offensive, personally. Accept your apology and appreciate that, however, please do think about what lead you to post that. I've reported your post and ask that it be removed as I feel leaving it in place implies this is an acceptable comparison, which it is not. I wanted to 'tell you to your face' so to speak.

Well said.

I think it’s a great idea. Why should the vaccinated lock down because others choose not to have it?

I'm in Ireland where we have very high vaccination rates. I had my second jab in June, proceeded to get Covid in August and gave it to everyone in the house.

We are now rolling out boosters for CEV and those over 50. I am just waiting for the Irish Govt to announce that our covid passports are now null and void as the 6 month "immunity" has now worn off for those who were vaccinated earlier in the year, much like the expiration date on the covid recovery certs we have here. This will then ensure that everyone goes for their boosters to get their "passport" again. People are laughing at me saying that, but then again they also laughed at me last year when I said we would all need covid vaccination certs to go anywhere and look how that's turned out.

It is quite literally a world gone mad and I fear for my children and all other children growing up in this shitshow.

@littlelordfuckleroy Totally agree. I’m Jewish. I don’t find comparisons with 1930s Germany (land of my grandparents) offensive AT ALL. This is how it starts.

@Tigerswife

I think it’s a great idea. Why should the vaccinated lock down because others choose not to have it?

And you don't foresee any issues?

I hate everything about this, choosing to not have the vaccine doesn’t necessarily make you an antivaxxer moron.

Me and DD both have endometriosis with quite bad pain (it still effects me even post-menopause) and were both reluctant to have it in case it worsened the pain, as we’d heard many stories of problem periods in other women after the vaccine.

We both ended up having it in the end and our fears manifested for the both of us. DD had an extremely heavy bleed and nearly had to go to A&E. I’m 49, post-menopausal and had a period afterwards, DD still isn’t back to normal and bleeds heavier with more pain.

I cannot believe Austria

@Tigerswife

I think it’s a great idea. Why should the vaccinated lock down because others choose not to have it?

You think it is a great idea that people are being forced to be jabbed? Maybe move there then,, and hope that the forced vaccine is not the start of something bigger.

[quote BenjiMcSchmenzie]@littlelordfuckleroy Totally agree. I’m Jewish. I don’t find comparisons with 1930s Germany (land of my grandparents) offensive AT ALL. This is how it starts.[/quote]

Horrific.

If governments really wanted to contain Covid they would mandate pre-emptive testing and isolation if in contact with a positive case regardless of vaccine status. But that wouldnt allow them to set us all against each other, therefore conveniently ignoring their total ineptitude in handling the pandemic.

(I don’t agree with mandatory testing either but I think it’s probably more effective than the vaccines have turned out to be!)

I remember her calling me from work in tears because she was in agony and had bled through a massive night-pad in 20 minutes. She had to go home sick. It was first period post-vaccine. 111 told us it was probably was the vaccine. She’s been in unbearable agony for a week every month since the vaccine.

I’d say it’s a pretty “fuck women” attitude from Austria, when the effects on periods are well-known.

[quote BenjiMcSchmenzie]@littlelordfuckleroy Totally agree. I’m Jewish. I don’t find comparisons with 1930s Germany (land of my grandparents) offensive AT ALL. This is how it starts.[/quote]
Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's not offensive. You don't get to speak for (other) Holocaust victims, or even the people of Austria/Germany of today.

The likeness to Nazi Germany is distasteful.
Better to liken it to compulsory conscription. Imagine less than 100 years ago you wound have been told your 18 year old son has to go to war and face a not negligible chance of dying, or risk imprisonment.
Having a vaccine is much much much lower risk than fighting in a war. Throughout history the young and strong have been asked to protect the old, infirm and very young. It was never easy. Those that refused were labelled cowards/traitors etc.
It is important that people do their bit for society as a whole in a time of crisis. Rather than believe conspiracy theories and blame the government. It is a virus that is to blame and not the governments - all trying different tactics to beat the virus. It is not dangerous, just different approaches.

It didn't take long for the Nazi comparisons and insinuations to start. ('Teutonic types' )

I don't know how I feel about this yet - am neither celebrating nor deploring it. But one question that comes to mind, in relation to the choice to refuse the vaccination, is: what if everybody made that choice? There's a degree to which the refusal of a vaccination depends on others not exercising that right. What societal situation would we be looking at now if we didn't have vaccines AND a substantial majority of people willing to take them?

I have apologised for causing some offence.

Benji has the right to say they're not offended without getting an earful.

Offence is entirely subjective.

@MaxNormal

That is one hell of a Rubicon they are crossing. Even France didn't get that one through.

Anyone who supports this... its one hell of a precedent to hand over bodily autonomy to the state.

Yep.

I do not agree with mandatory medical anything.

I'm hugely pro vaccination. - had my booster and my flu. But nope. This too far.

Forced vaccination is a violation of:

1. Nuremberg Code
2. UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights (art.6).
3. UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (art. 7).
4. UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights (art. 3)

The world has weak leaders, cowtowing to media driven hyperbole & fear mongering. They fear vote loss primarily instead of accepting things as they realistically are.

This is a disease with an IFR of

@lorca

This is absolutely horrendous.

The 'vaccine' does not stop you getting Covid
It does not stop you spreading Covid
It does not stop you being hospitalised
It does not stop you dying.

It does not even protect you for more than 6 months?

This is a disease with a death rate of 0.6%.

People die. All the time.

I know more people who had a week of awful, flu-type symptoms after each of their AZ jab - than have had actual Covid. And the 4 people I know who've had Covid - had it mildly, before the Vaccine.

What are we doing? Why are we even reporting the 'cases' - why does it matter how many have it at the moment, to us in the street? It's like saying how many people have a cold at the moment. It's of interest to those in research, but just scare-mongering to the public.

Deaths, yes. General trend, yes. Cases - why?

That’s misinformation. The vaccine vastly reduces those things the vaccine protect you for more than 6 months. In some people it wanes after a few months. It still provides considerable protection after that time period.

I think we need to stop conflating anti vaxx with human rights. The two are not the same. I’m not sure why people are surprised by this when we’ve already passed legislation for 2 groups to have mandatory vaccination in the UK. But of course it’s ok for others…
And somehow flu has been included in this mandatory vacc push in the UK.

This is beyond unsettling.
How many are unvaccinated in Austria? What if the majority refuse? What will happen to them, surely there are not enough spaces in prison for them all?

Covid, whilst very infectious, is actually nowhere near as severe as something like measles on a population basis

Where does losing bodily autonomy for the greater good end? You only need one kidney to function- why can’t the state take one for people who need transplants?

The right to eat/smoke/drink yourself to death? To play dangerous sports?

[quote MummyPop00]Forced vaccination is a violation of:

1. Nuremberg Code
2. UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights (art.6).
3. UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (art. 7).
4. UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights (art. 3)

The world has weak leaders, cowtowing to media driven hyperbole & fear mongering. They fear vote loss primarily instead of accepting things as they realistically are.

This is a disease with an IFR of

@Twoweekcruise

This is beyond unsettling. How many are unvaccinated in Austria? What if the majority refuse? What will happen to them, surely there are not enough spaces in prison for them all?

67% are fully vaccinated I believe.

So they'd need prison places for a lot of people!

@Twoweekcruise

This is beyond unsettling. How many are unvaccinated in Austria? What if the majority refuse? What will happen to them, surely there are not enough spaces in prison for them all?

67% are fully vaccinated I believe.

So they'd need prison places for a lot of people!

[quote MummyPop00]Forced vaccination is a violation of:

1. Nuremberg Code
2. UNESCO Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights (art.6).
3. UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (art. 7).
4. UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights (art. 3)

The world has weak leaders, cowtowing to media driven hyperbole & fear mongering. They fear vote loss primarily instead of accepting things as they realistically are.

This is a disease with an IFR of