Vaccinations to made a legal requirement in Austria from Feb 2022

[littlelordfuckleroy]

Days after Austria imposed a lockdown on the unvaccinated, it has announced a full national Covid-19 lockdown starting on Monday.

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said it would last at least 10 days and there would be a legal requirement to get vaccinated from 1 February 2022.

Jesus. I'm shocked by that. I'm not an antivaxxer but I still very concerned that a country could make any vaccine a legal requirement! I feel it's a step too far.

I’m just anti any compulsory medical treatment whether vaccination, abortion, sterilisation and conversely the withholding of medical treatment such as abortion in pro life states.

Once you start down that road you fundamentally shift the relationship between state and citizen. The state should always been answerable to the citizens not the citizen to the state. Nor do I want to see the state merge with the medical establishment (nor do most sensible doctors) - that would be fundamentally bad for medicine and bad for science.

@sashagabadon

It is tyrannical as a pp suggested and worse it gives fuel to the conspiracy theorists to peddle their argument too.

I’m shocked that this has happened. My conspiracy theory friend isn’t. She was going on about mandatory vaccines and passports before there was even a vaccine. I told her she was being ridiculous. How did they know??

A terrifying path to be going down.

@workshy44

GOOD Before covid the most infectious disease known to man was measles and you needed 1 in 18 not to be vaccinated for herd immunity. Covid is infinitely more infectious and unless people get vaccinated it will NEVER end. There are some people who can't be vaccinated for medical reasons so they take up the tiny% who don't require vaccination for herd immunity it is beyond selfish. These are unprecedented times- personal freedoms go out the window as far as I am concerned.

Jesus Christ

Shocked and disgusted that people compare compulsory Covid vaccinations with the persecution of Jews under the Nazis. What an insult to the victims of that time.

The unvaccinated are being vilified and facing job losses and restrictions on their movements in order to protect the ‘at risk’, many of the ‘at risk’ are in that position through their lifestyle choices.

Those not at risk have had their lives affected for a long time in the name of people who haven’t protected themselves and are now behind those people losing their jobs and freedom.

It is just a scare tactic to freak unvaccinated people out to increase uptake now. There is not that much the Austrian government will actually be able to do to enforce anyway. I hope they think it is worth it - I doubt the die hard anti vaxxers will fall for this. I guess it is fighting like with like.

@MummyPop00

To be fair the Teutonic types have history of this sort of population ‘management’. Must be in their genes.

@MummyPop00 I have reported your racist post.

Are you surprised at their logic @BenjiMcSchmenzie?

It's individuals like this who will have the unvaccinated locked in jail . I think I'd rather be subjected to prison life to escape such mindsets!

@ichundich

Shocked and disgusted that people compare compulsory Covid vaccinations with the persecution of Jews under the Nazis. What an insult to the victims of that time.

The persecution of the Jews didn't happen overnight. It's a slow progression and that's what people are comparing.

I don't think anyone is looking to offend Jewish people.

Thats terrifying. Anyone still going along with this nonsense needs to wake up. If that is allowed to happen the rest will follow.

People saying "if they wouldn't have refused the vaccine then they wouldn't have to make it compulsory"... Do you not realise how insane that sounds?

I'm wondering what happens to the people who refuse. Do they get injected at gun point? Or even exiled into some sort of 'camp' maybe? Given their most famous citizen's attitudes towards people who didn't conform to his idea of society, I'm really surprised Austria is risking the rest of the world drawing these parallels now.

littlelordfuckleroy

It is the progression that people are comparing but it’s instantly jumped on to stop it.

I always used to wonder how an entire nation of people allowed that to happen and many were on board, now I fully understand.

I agree with your initial post. I am very against people who are anti-vaccination but a state imposing this seems highly concerning, will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. I imagine like any enforced measures it will just cause those against to become even more entrenched in their views and does validate their feeling persecution.

However, while I appreciate you didn't intend to cause offence, and offending people isn't illegal (yet), as another poster has said, your use of the term Star of Alexander is exceptionally offensive, personally. Accept your apology and appreciate that, however, please do think about what lead you to post that. I've reported your post and ask that it be removed as I feel leaving it in place implies this is an acceptable comparison, which it is not. I wanted to 'tell you to your face' so to speak.

I think this is an abuse of human rights and I am pro vaccine.
It's one thing to tell people they can't work in healthcare, I can see the reason.. But literally forcing people to be injected is like something out of black mirror.

Fully vaccinated and think this is a very concerning step to take.

It said that those who are unvaccinated would be forced into camps and forced to surrender all of their assets, or they could take the shot
That's horrific. I'm sure some people would be all for it if they tried to implement it now

Locking down the unvaccinated worked well then. Oh wait
If we think about it, it's a perfect way to create even more divide. Gets the people do the the governmemts job. Now everyone is locked down, can we imagine how much pressure the vaccinated will put on others

It's appalling and it won't work anyway. All that will happen is that there'll be thousands of fake covid passports, doctors will be paid off to manipulate medical records, and hundreds of people will be diagnosed with 'anxiety' or whatever to become exempt from vaccination etc.

The personal freedom argument cannot be where the conversation stops when your choices have such a dramatic impact on others.

Totally agree with this too

@RubyFakeLips

I agree with your initial post. I am very against people who are anti-vaccination but a state imposing this seems highly concerning, will have to wait and see how it all unfolds. I imagine like any enforced measures it will just cause those against to become even more entrenched in their views and does validate their feeling persecution.

However, while I appreciate you didn't intend to cause offence, and offending people isn't illegal (yet), as another poster has said, your use of the term Star of Alexander is exceptionally offensive, personally. Accept your apology and appreciate that, however, please do think about what lead you to post that. I've reported your post and ask that it be removed as I feel leaving it in place implies this is an acceptable comparison, which it is not. I wanted to 'tell you to your face' so to speak.

Fair enough

There's a justification (and rationale) for something like the green pass system which allows testing as a alternative for those who don't want to be vaccinated

Not really. It’s basically just an exemption from testing for a vaccinated person who could still be infected/transmitting the virus. If they’re worried about transmission in certain venues/at certain types of events then they should have been suggesting tests for everyone.

You just need to look at the post that follows yours to see that people are making these comparisons. For what it's worth many antivaxx groups are extremely right-wing themselves.

Agree my post should be deleted and then maybe we can stop this derail.

This is absolutely horrendous.

The 'vaccine' does not stop you getting Covid
It does not stop you spreading Covid
It does not stop you being hospitalised
It does not stop you dying.

It does not even protect you for more than 6 months?

This is a disease with a death rate of 0.6%.

People die. All the time.

I know more people who had a week of awful, flu-type symptoms after each of their AZ jab - than have had actual Covid. And the 4 people I know who've had Covid - had it mildly, before the Vaccine.

What are we doing? Why are we even reporting the 'cases' - why does it matter how many have it at the moment, to us in the street? It's like saying how many people have a cold at the moment. It's of interest to those in research, but just scare-mongering to the public.

Deaths, yes. General trend, yes. Cases - why?