Vaccinations to made a legal requirement in Austria from Feb 2022

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Days after Austria imposed a lockdown on the unvaccinated, it has announced a full national Covid-19 lockdown starting on Monday.

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said it would last at least 10 days and there would be a legal requirement to get vaccinated from 1 February 2022.

Jesus. I'm shocked by that. I'm not an antivaxxer but I still very concerned that a country could make any vaccine a legal requirement! I feel it's a step too far.

@userperuser maybe they should start fining obese people for putting a strain on the NHS when they start fining unvaccinated  I bet @ancientgran won't agree though

theworldsgonefeckingmad

Precisely. The idea would go down as well as the ‘lock up the vulnerable’ one did.

I’m very relieved to see that the majority of people are against mandatory vaccinations. I’m so worried about what is going on in Austria and Germany. I can’t understand why there isn’t more outrage in the press. Where are all the human rights lawyers?
I have had both my jabs. I had Covid despite being double jabbed. My teenage boys had Covid at the same time as me. They were poorly for 48 hours, and fully recovered without a vaccine. The vaccine does not stop you catching or spreading Covid. Covid passports should be scrapped.

I do not want a booster. I had facial twitching after my second jab. I know it sounds funny, but it wasn’t. I reported it via the yellow card scheme, and I filmed it for evidence. Will I eventually be thrown into prison or fined for refusing a booster?

Will I eventually be thrown into prison or fined for refusing a booster?

Well if you were in Austria, yes, you could be fined. They have revealed today that you will be fined €3600 for refusing the first dose of the vaccine and €1450 for refusal of a 3rd dose (ie. a booster). Validity of green pass reduced to 7 months - which means we will be having to get a booster every 7 months to avoid being fined....

What happens if everyone refuses to pay it is unable to pay?

What happens if everyone refuses to pay it is unable to pay?

If people are unable to afford to pay or it or don't want to pay it, they have to do a certain number of hours in prison instead.

Also they haven't said how often you will be fined. So if you get fined and still don't go for the vaccine what happens then?

It might serve their purpose and get the vaccination numbers up but they wouldn’t have capacity to imprison everyone if they don’t comply.
It’s unbelievable really.

@fumfspos

Will I eventually be thrown into prison or fined for refusing a booster?

Well if you were in Austria, yes, you could be fined. They have revealed today that you will be fined €3600 for refusing the first dose of the vaccine and €1450 for refusal of a 3rd dose (ie. a booster). Validity of green pass reduced to 7 months - which means we will be having to get a booster every 7 months to avoid being fined....

And how long will this go on for? How many vaccinations will people be required to put in their bodies? Sorry that's a rhetorical question.

Serious question to you though @fumfspos : are children required to have these vaccines too? Will parents be fined if children are not vaccinated?

@TotoShetland

Exactly this. People who would support this must consider that in the future, if they have a worrying reaction to a booster, they would be legally obliged to get the next one anyway. It's not easy to get medical exemptions. I've spoken to someone in Aus who developed pericarditis after their first vaccine but wasn't granted exemption from the second - just told to get AZ instead of Pfizer.

Well if you were in Austria, yes, you could be fined. They have revealed today that you will be fined €3600 for refusing the first dose of the vaccine and €1450 for refusal of a 3rd dose (ie. a booster). Validity of green pass reduced to 7 months - which means we will be having to get a booster every 7 months to avoid being fined....

So anyone with money will just pay the fines, so just punishing the poor really

my guess is that they hope the threat is enough to get enough people vaccinated.

a relative in austria is not vaccinated and properly pissed off. lives in one of the regions most affected. (which has 2 hospitals only, one of them a 'cottage' hospital that doesn't has icu beds)

One group of people I'm particularly concerned about are those who've ever been sectioned under the mental health act, for whom forced medication was a terrifying reality.
This latest news from Austria and Germany must be very triggering for some people with such horrifyingly traumatic memories.
I'm so worried about this, on so many levels...

@fumfspos

Will I eventually be thrown into prison or fined for refusing a booster?

Well if you were in Austria, yes, you could be fined. They have revealed today that you will be fined €3600 for refusing the first dose of the vaccine and €1450 for refusal of a 3rd dose (ie. a booster). Validity of green pass reduced to 7 months - which means we will be having to get a booster every 7 months to avoid being fined....

I can't see how even the most pro covid vaccinated think this is could be o.k.

It's really disturbing.

This is now a human rights issue, one that will have far reaching consequences.

I have have both vaccines but if there were to bring this here I would absolutely protest and march against this.

I am so sorry for the people in Austria.

Really and truly, this whole thing is head-scratchingly, Alice-in-Wonderlandish weird.
The powers that be, don't seem to be thinking critically about this at all...

Serious question to you though @fumfspos : are children required to have these vaccines too? Will parents be fined if children are not vaccinated?

Children from the age of 12

What would happen if you actually got infected? Would that reset the clock for your next vaccination?

I am absolutely furious that they are going to make vaccines compulsory here in Austria, especially the boosters.
I had the Johnson vaccine in the summer. Now they've said our green passes run out on the 3rd January for Johnson unless you've had a second dose.
I went to get my second dose - having been told I could choose to have a second Johnson or a Pfizer. I wanted to have a second Johnson. I had to sign a form saying that I understood that the second dose is "off label" - ie. not been cleared by the EMA.
At the vaccination centre they then said I couldn't have a Johnson and had to have Pfizer. I did not want this but had it anyway. I had to sign another form on which it said that I was agreeing to accept the vaccine despite the fact that a cross-vaccination is off label. It also said on that form that the 3rd dose of Pfizer is off label.

I think it is an outrage that Austria is making vaccines and boosters compulsory despite the boosters being off label.
The first two doses of Pfizer aren't off label obviously.

But I suspect this will go on for a few years as our departed chancellor ordered 40 million doses of Pfizer for a population of ca. 9 million people. We'll be getting boostered until that has all been used up.

Its going to be like a subscription service to live in society. Only there's going to be no way opt out.

Validity of green pass reduced to 7 months - which means we will be having to get a booster every 7 months to avoid being fined
I don't understand why people are all for segregation, passports, mandatory vaccines etc.
This is one example, which may or may not happen - but essentially, a person must have something injected every 7 months so they can carry on 'living life'.

What happens if the government decided that reduced to 6 months, or 3, or monthly? Are most mnetters genuinely that happy to lose a fundamental right of what they put in to their own body? If you don't agree then what?

I’m sorry, but WTAF?!! How on earth can this be allowed, this is truly bizarre, what is the reasoning behind this, it isn’t about protecting people, what is it, it just doesn’t make sense.
I’m very scared for the future. I had covid March 2020 and am still suffering the effects of long covid now, as a result developing mcas, I have many reactions to things now I previously didn’t and life is v difficult with a toddler to look after too. I’m under a hospital specialist, who after weighing everything up, decided I’d be better not to chance the vaccine, many have been much worse off. He says I have immunity now, which is stronger than the vaccine. If I’m forced to have vaccine after vaccine, I’m most likely to get progressively worse.
For the record, I’m pro vaccine and have had all others and wish I’d never developed these long term symptoms so I can just be vaccinated and fine like the majority.
I’m honestly scared for my future
None of this makes sense

What worries me is the lack of any condemnation from uk gov over this.. genuinely worried.
Anyone still thinks this is all ok really needs a fucking wake up call.

BBC News - Covid death doctor Irfan Halim touched lives, brother says
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-59371578

This was a 45 year old, healthy doctor. Covid is "not just like a cold" for many people, including young and fit ones.

Some areas in Germany have a 57% vaccination rate, so only 3 in 5, despite of a nearly year-long campaign to get jabbed. Now they are entering a new 4-week lockdown, which will damage businesses and individuals. For these regions, forced vaccination seems like the only way unfortunately.

@ichundich

BBC News - Covid death doctor Irfan Halim touched lives, brother says www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-59371578

This was a 45 year old, healthy doctor. Covid is "not just like a cold" for many people, including young and fit ones.

Some areas in Germany have a 57% vaccination rate, so only 3 in 5, despite of a nearly year-long campaign to get jabbed. Now they are entering a new 4-week lockdown, which will damage businesses and individuals. For these regions, forced vaccination seems like the only way unfortunately.

Is it really the only way? Would 100% vaccination stop this from occurring? No it wouldn’t.

You cannot prevent a lot of bad things in life.

@WanderingFruitWonderer

One group of people I'm particularly concerned about are those who've ever been sectioned under the mental health act, for whom forced medication was a terrifying reality. This latest news from Austria and Germany must be very triggering for some people with such horrifyingly traumatic memories. I'm so worried about this, on so many levels...

This has happened to me, and is why I have not had the vaccine. It is why I speak so strongly MN about not having it. I still get told to "get a grip" and crap about the needle being "tiny". It does not matter! Am fed up with getting labelled an anti-vaxxer, selfish, stupid etc. Under section, I lost my bodily autonomy. Now I am just minding my own business at home, and there are calls for me, and everyone else, to lose theirs because we have not had the vaccine (for whatever reason).

For these regions, forced vaccination seems like the only way unfortunately

The poor man who died was double vaccinated so I can't for the life of me see how forcing others to have it will make a blind bit of difference.