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I have to have the vaccine or I loose my job

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wingingmumlife · 16/11/2021 22:41

I am absolutely prepared to get flamed for this but I am really worrying.

I am 22 year years old, healthy and unvaccinated (by choice).

I am not anti-vax, I have had every single vaccine from being a child to now and my daughter is up to date with all of hers too.

I work in dentistry and myself and 4 other colleagues have been told we have to be fully vaccinated by April 2022 otherwise, we lose our jobs.

I just can't believe it has come to this. I feel like my human rights have been taken away. I'm not a conspiracy theorist and I am a big believer in science but as a genuine question ... Can someone please tell me why this vaccine is being pushed so much to the point where soon we probably won't be able to even go into a restaurant without having this vaccine?

I have to wear AGP PPE every single day for every single patient but this still isn't enough?

I test myself every single day, but this still isn't enough?

Can someone please help it make sense to me? That is a genuine question.

Im not looking for an argument and I'm not wanting anyone to tell me "how stupid I am" I just want this to make sense.

For anyone wondering why I haven't had the vaccine - the main reason being, I have severe health anxiety, ironic I know since most would think I'd jump for the vaccine, but at the moment I'm more scared of this vaccine then I am of catching Covid itself.

I just feel sick to my stomach at the thought of not having a job unless I have this vaccine, it really doesn't sit well with me but everyone on here seems to be supporting it?

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wingingmumlife · 18/11/2021 15:18

@questionsneverstop
No sorry, I haven't seen your comments.

I have done research, yes.

I phoned my GP this morning to discuss things, they are phoning me back next week.

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questionsneverstop · 18/11/2021 15:21

“I have done research, yes.

I phoned my GP this morning to discuss things, they are phoning me back next week.”

Excellent. Hope he can give you lots of good answers x

Platax · 18/11/2021 15:45

OP, I take it you realise that the chance of any of your "What if's?" actually happening is hundreds of times smaller than your chance of injury every time you cross the road or get into a motor vehicle? How do you reconcile your ability to accept fairly hefty risks but not to accept tiny risks?

DontWantTheRivalry · 18/11/2021 15:49

The way I understand it is that fear of the vaccine (despite minuscule risks) is magnified because the OP is purposefully putting something into her body that she truly believes will harm her.

That’s very different to doing something normal like crossing the road and accidentally getting run over which is completely out of OP’s control.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/11/2021 15:54

When was the last time you tried medication and / or counselling for your health anxiety (that will likely cost you your job )?

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 18/11/2021 15:55

Tell me then, when is this going to end? I take it you've had both vaccines? I'm sure it was on the news the other day that those who have had both vaccines will be classed as unvaccinated until they've had their booster jab? Then what? That expires so you have to have another, then another, then another... You get my point

So basically just like the annual flu vaccine…

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wingingmumlife · 18/11/2021 16:02

@Platax it's comments like that, that actually help. I like people to put things into perspective for me.

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dietcokeofevil · 18/11/2021 16:04

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 18/11/2021 16:05

Anxiety, when it is as serious as @wingingmumlife‘s anxiety, is not rational. I’m sure she knows, intellectually, that the risks of the vaccine are minuscule compared to other things, like crossing the road, going in a car etc - but her anxiety overrides rationalisations or facts - it acts on a fight or flight level. This level of anxiety can paralyse you. The person suffering from it can’t see that it is out of proportion.

It’s like my depression telling me that no-one likes me, I am completely unloveable, why would anyone want to be my friend. On an intellectual level, I can see that this isn’t true - my family do love me, I have friends who really want to spend time with me, people do seem to like me - but when I am at my worst, the lies depression tells me are simply too huge for me to be able to see the truth.

SueSaid · 18/11/2021 16:15

[quote dietcokeofevil]@wingingmumlife
You're right to be concerned about the vaccine. Health anxiety or not your intuition is telling you no.

This synthetic vaccine has been around 5 minutes. They're still collecting data.

It doesn't stop you spreading it, it doesn't stop you catching it, so has no impact in your ability to do your job.

By the sound of it your immune system is working just fine. You've had plenty of opportunity to catch it and you haven't been ill.

Don't be bullied into something you're not comfortable with. Let the guinea pigs do their job first.
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Bollocks. It reduces spread by 63%.

It isn't about the ops lovely immune system is it, it's about the patients and colleagues she will be in close contact with.

If you won't have it op fine, just get a job where you aren't in close contact with others. Particularly patients who trust those looking after them will be vaccinated.

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wingingmumlife · 18/11/2021 16:15

@DontWantTheRivalry that is very very true to me also!

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questionsneverstop · 18/11/2021 16:17

[quote dietcokeofevil]@wingingmumlife
You're right to be concerned about the vaccine. Health anxiety or not your intuition is telling you no.

This synthetic vaccine has been around 5 minutes. They're still collecting data.

It doesn't stop you spreading it, it doesn't stop you catching it, so has no impact in your ability to do your job.

By the sound of it your immune system is working just fine. You've had plenty of opportunity to catch it and you haven't been ill.

Don't be bullied into something you're not comfortable with. Let the guinea pigs do their job first.
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They are collecting that because it is called PHARMACOVIGILANCE.
Are you an expert in it? I am sure you are not otherwise you would know that every new medicine must be under observation for a certain time frame after it has been put on the market.
Even e-sigarette a or HRT treatment, they are still “collecting data”

Justgettingbye · 18/11/2021 16:17

There's a thread on this everyday now

Nanny0gg · 18/11/2021 16:18

[quote dietcokeofevil]@wingingmumlife
You're right to be concerned about the vaccine. Health anxiety or not your intuition is telling you no.

This synthetic vaccine has been around 5 minutes. They're still collecting data.

It doesn't stop you spreading it, it doesn't stop you catching it, so has no impact in your ability to do your job.

By the sound of it your immune system is working just fine. You've had plenty of opportunity to catch it and you haven't been ill.

Don't be bullied into something you're not comfortable with. Let the guinea pigs do their job first.
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Oh god! No it hasn't been around 5 minutes!

Stop spreading this tosh!

CoffeeRunner · 18/11/2021 16:19

@wingingmumlife

My sister was living with me a couple of months ago for a short while. She caught covid, I never caught it from her despite the fact we lived in the same household - I wasn't particularly avoiding her either. Maybe it was luck, I don't know but I didn't catch it. There have been a few instances where I've been around someone with Covid and not caught it. My whole work place caught Covid in July - me and another colleague was the only two who did not.

Can I ask if anyone knows if receptionists in medical settings will also have to be vaccinated even though they won't come into direct contact with patients?

Which Receptionists in medical settings don't come into contact with patients?

Yes, all Reception staff at the practice I work at have had at least two Covid doses - most have had three. None refused the vaccine though so the issue of whether it should be compulsory hasn't been discussed so far as I know.

I'm not sure where the cut off will be TBH. Will pharmacy staff be obliged to have it? If so, will staff in shops with a pharmacy counter then be obliged to take it? (eg Tesco).

WanderingFruitWonderer · 18/11/2021 16:53

Flowers I understand how distressing this is for you OP. We live in strange times. You have my empathy

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wingingmumlife · 18/11/2021 17:03

@CoffeeRunner maybe your practice is different but our receptionists are behind a screen when dealing with patients. That is suitable for a shop assistant at say Asda or Sainsbury's so why not receptionists? They also don't work in a patients mouth or anywhere near a patients mouth which is why most people on here are saying it's a must for health care workers to be vaccinated.

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CoffeeRunner · 18/11/2021 17:11

[quote wingingmumlife]@CoffeeRunner maybe your practice is different but our receptionists are behind a screen when dealing with patients. That is suitable for a shop assistant at say Asda or Sainsbury's so why not receptionists? They also don't work in a patients mouth or anywhere near a patients mouth which is why most people on here are saying it's a must for health care workers to be vaccinated.[/quote]
Fair enough. At our surgery there are no screens & no longer any restrictions on patients coming into the building so the Receptionists see more people face to face than anyone. Obviously not looking in open mouths but lots of patients do remove masks to make themselves heard. I appreciate every practice is different though.

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wingingmumlife · 18/11/2021 17:35

Government prediction that 73,000 NHS workers will not have had their vaccine by April 1st 2022.

I'm not the only one...

I have to have the vaccine or I loose my job
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DrNo007 · 18/11/2021 17:41

You are not wrong or unreasonable and there are plenty of us who think the same as you, including numerous scientists and doctors who are aware of how safety testing and medical ethics are normally practised and see the massive contrast with these latest vaccines. The agenda is being dictated by the pharmaceutical industry and those who wish to control and restrict and surveil the population. But you won’t find much support on here; maybe join some groups on Telegram instead?

VanGoghsDog · 18/11/2021 17:43

@wingingmumlife

Government prediction that 73,000 NHS workers will not have had their vaccine by April 1st 2022.

I'm not the only one...

I don't think anyone is suggesting you're the only one.
GP2020 · 18/11/2021 17:52

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questionsneverstop · 18/11/2021 17:57

@wingingmumlife

Government prediction that 73,000 NHS workers will not have had their vaccine by April 1st 2022.

I'm not the only one...

Thank goodness for the other 1,423,000 (one million four hundred twenty three thousand) NHS staff that have vaccinated. I hope to only deal with them, frankly
XenoBitch · 18/11/2021 18:14

@Justgettingbye

There's a thread on this everyday now
So? If some people are worried, then it is best they discuss this than keep quiet. OP has asked for help to understand the new policies, and to come to make sense of it all. How is that a bad thing?
soundsgreektome · 18/11/2021 18:16

Hep B vaccine is pretty much compulsory in dentistry, you had that?