Positive ds, can my cleaner come tomorrow?

[PurpleEchoLamp]

Just that really! Since he got his positive PCR, he's been banished to his room, so if he stays in there, and she only does downstairs, can she come? (1st world problem, I know!)

Oh, and there is NO risk from surfaces unless someone who actually has covid has recently spat, coughed or breathed on them in the last couple of minutes.

There is literally zero chance of the cleaner catching covid whilst cleaning the downstairs of a house in which someone with no symptoms is shut in an upstairs room.

@Warhertisuff

This thread has lost the plot in a vortex of Covid insanity I thought we'd left behind in Spring of 2020.

If the DS remains isolated, and the OP and family keep out of the way upstairs, the risks are negligible. Anyone would think the OP is asking the cleaner to lick her DS's snotty tissues!

Leaving aside the question of health and safety legislation and C-19 regulations/guidance, do tell us the basis upon which you assess the risks to be 'tiny' or 'negligible' Warhertisuff?

There may already be more than one person person infected in the household. Here's what a recent survey for The Lancet says about household transmission:

...households are important settings for the transmission of the Delta variant and with household settings being an important factor in wider community spread, it is vital to maintain policies to prevent transmission of COVID-19 in these settings.

But perhaps you are in the camp of not believing the medical profession?

those who are a little more perceptive

@Waxonwaxoff0

"Also, a gas engineer coming to fix the boiler is different. A broken boiler at this time of year is an emergency and needs sorting, cleaning the house is not an emergency and can either be done yourself or can wait another week."

So you think that covid is so intelligent that it can tell who is a cleaner, and attack them, and who is a gas engineer, and leave them alone because covid knows it's an emergency?

That's me done on this thread. Waste of time trying to reason with people who are away with the fairies.

I'm a TA and am pissed off with the government and how we've been shafted in the school.
Doesn't mean that everyone else should be. I think the OP should give the cleaner the choice and if she chooses not to clean, she should still be paid.
I hope the OP is able to stay home and look after her son also giving her the time to do the cleaning herself. We have no idea what her job is and what pressures she is under.

No, don't be a dick

@warhertisuff

Nice to see another sensible, reasoned voice on here.

Bye, folks, enjoy your scaremongering and hysteria/testeria!

People are getting cross because of others who are very dismissive of the risks. It’s a complete lack of respect. Then the worst bit is when the anti-any-sensible-measures-because-covid-is-over-brigade (and it is usually that way around) start throwing accusations of hysteria etc. Where has the respect gone?

As it stands, I wouldn’t have put the choice on my cleaner and just cancelled anyway. (We’ve done that when the kids have had to isolate and cancelled while waiting for a PCR). Yes we paid them anyway (we also paid our cleaner during lockdown).

20 months into this pandemic and still people have their head up their backsides.

Cleaner: not essential
Gas engineer: essential

My cleaner didn’t come when we were positive and I paid her.

My nephew was positive and isolated in his room with no symptoms. My sister offered her cleaner the choice and made it clear she would pay her regardless. Her cleaner chose to come as she didn’t want to be at home for the sake of her mental health, and didn’t feel that the risk was enough to bother her.

[quote Maskless]@warhertisuff

Nice to see another sensible, reasoned voice on here.

Bye, folks, enjoy your scaremongering and hysteria/testeria![/quote]
I'm definitely not hysterical about Covid, in fact I've been described as a Covid minimiser. But even I wouldn't be so much of a dick as to have a visitor to my house if I had Covid.

@Iggly

People are getting cross because of others who are very dismissive of the risks. It’s a complete lack of respect.

But there are virtually no risks in this situation... Exactly where does the work risk come from when you actually consider the situation as described by the OP?

@Maskless. Of course not having symptoms doesn't mean you've not got Covid, that's why you have to do a PCR test after a LFT of positive. And, of course, if you're correct and the LFT is a false positive, the child will be isolating for 10 days unnecessarily! So OP, just get the PCR test done.

Now, back to the lack of symptoms meaning a false positive. Our DS had no symptoms, we tested because we were due to go out with friends. He got a LFT positive. PCR test positive. DH and I had a PCR test as close contacts - negative.

Two days later I had a tingling in my arms and back. LFT test positive. PCR test positive. DH had a PCR test again as a contact. Negative.

Two days later DH did his normal LFT test. Positive. PCR test positive.

Apart from a sore throat plus the taste loss on day 4 or 5 and a pounding headache on day 3, none of us had any symptoms of Covid. Without the LFT we'd have been happily mixing with people until at least day 4 when the taste went.

Of course, as soon as the PCR test is done the test and trace people contact you and you have to give the name of contacts, where you've been and who has visited your house. So the cleaner will be contacted by test and trace as she'd have been in the house when the child was contagious - test and trace go back 7 days before you did the LFT.

Covid does not have symptoms for many people now. That's why LFT tests are important.

As for the cleaner now? I would let her know and keep her away. By law she shouldn't be coming into the home. If she gets it and can't work it's not just this household's money she loses.

As for the person who works as a TA. I work in a school. I got paid when we were in lockdown (all occasions) and when I had Covid. I don't see the problem in supporting another person, who doesn't get paid when they don't work, by a) keeping them safe if I know there's Covid in my home and b) paying them if I feel they need to stay away. It's called being a caring person.

And, as you'll have to isolate to OP, you'll have plenty of time to clean your own home...

@Warhertisuff

The most recent variant of the Delta variant is proving highly transmissible, so the cleaner may be very much at risk.

If Delta+ (which is believed to be only marginally more transmissible than Delta, if at all) can transmit through a closed door, downstairs and to someone 10+ metres away, all in a well ventilated house with all its windows open, and do so so readily that it makes the person downstairs "very much at risk", we are all screwed and we need to be locked down in sealed up houses forever!

Exactly - I cannot believe the level of hysteria and vitriol on this thread.

@Maskless

I cannot believe the daft and unscientific responses on this thread.

There is ZERO chance that a cleaner can catch covid from someone in a room with the door closed.

Doubly so when the person confined has no symptoms!

Quadruply so when the cleaner does not even go upstairs onto the same floor as the confined person!

Who scared you all out of your wits so much that you think it can pass through a solid door?

There is as much science in the hysterical answers on this thread as there was in the Salem Witch Trials.

OP please come back and tell us that you're going to pay her?!

@moofolk

OP please come back and tell us that you're going to pay her?!

Oh give over, do you really have nothing else to worry about?!

Oh give over, do you really have nothing else to worry about?!

Says the poster who started an AIBU thread re whether it would be unreasonable to eat a pineapple by herself

We had a similar situation and the cleaner came anyway! She wanted to! I think maybe she was fed up with not working, which I totally get. And she didn’t catch covid. She wasn’t in close proximity and covid doesn’t tend to transmit in surfaces so not surprised she didn’t catch it.

@Oftenithinkaboutit

*Oh give over, do you really have nothing else to worry about?!*

Says the poster who started an AIBU thread re whether it would be unreasonable to eat a pineapple by herself

Wow! Thread stalker much?? 😂😂

Could you possibly clean this week or someone in the house do the basics and leave the rest. How bad can it be.

Clueless first world problem. Now why have so many people died? Clueless people perhaps?

I relish an advanced search when posters say comments like yours!!

You sound delightful

@REDHERO

Could you possibly clean this week or someone in the house do the basics and leave the rest. How bad can it be.

Clueless first world problem. Now why have so many people died? Clueless people perhaps?

Actually it's "clueless" to believe people have died due to someone cleaning a room when someone with Covid is on another floor and behind a shut door...

It's this kind of clueless and sanctimonious Covid "Puritanism" that makes people more likely to react negatively to Covid "rules", making them more inclined to disregard the whole thing.