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Positive ds, can my cleaner come tomorrow?

181 replies

PurpleEchoLamp · 31/10/2021 09:51

Just that really! Since he got his positive PCR, he's been banished to his room, so if he stays in there, and she only does downstairs, can she come? (1st world problem, I know!)

OP posts:
whattodotwittwoo · 31/10/2021 10:15

Sorry op but how can you be clueless when he has tested positive!!! Covids been around a while now to know what to do!
This has to be a wind up!

Frazzled2207 · 31/10/2021 10:16

You absolutely need to let her know as a minimum. I would still hope mine would come as she very recently had covid!

PurpleDaisies · 31/10/2021 10:19

@Frazzled2207

You absolutely need to let her know as a minimum. I would still hope mine would come as she very recently had covid!
So your cleaner provides “essential care”?
Positive ds, can my cleaner come tomorrow?
Oftenithinkaboutit · 31/10/2021 10:36

@PurpleEchoLamp

OK, point taken. I'm a bit clueless, obviously. Thanks all.
But you are always going to tell her, weren’t you?
toomuchlaundry · 31/10/2021 10:40

Are you going to pay her?

GetOffTheTableMabel · 31/10/2021 10:44

@PurpleEchoLamp

OK, point taken. I'm a bit clueless, obviously. Thanks all.
No @PurpleEchoLamp, clueless doesn’t cover it. Admittedly, asking that question clearly shows a lack of common sense on your part but actually the criticism you’re receiving isn’t because you asked a ‘clueless’ question, it’s because you asked a deeply, deeply selfish question. No one who had considered this from the cleaner’s point of view, for even one second, could have asked such a thing. What about HER health? What about the health of the people she cares about? What about her income? What about the income of anyone she lives with? What if she were to develop long covid and can’t do her physical job in the medium to long term? You need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and try to work out when and how you became so thoroughly entitled and self-absorbed and what the hell you are going to do about it. You read all these responses and concluded that you had been a bit dim. You have but the real point is that you are so, so selfish that even when other people try to spell it out for you, you don’t get it. You should be appalled by yourself.
Sparklfairy · 31/10/2021 10:49

Steady on @GetOffTheTableMabel, no need for that level of abuse.

Incognito22333 · 31/10/2021 10:51

I would call her OP and ask her what she would like to do. You are getting a lot of unfair comments on here, usual judgemental lot.

Regarding all the comments on here re payment anyway, depends on what your normal deal is with her. Do you ever cancel and pay her anyway? Does she make up hours another time etc. Do you pay her when you are on holiday etc. It is really down to what your usual deal is with her.
My cleaner, for example, willingly and knowingly went to work in another house where the kids had Covid and then came to me to clean without telling me and to be honest, I understood her situation but I was a bit upset (I would have paid her and asked her to stay away that week as I had an elderly relative visiting). However, I then realised that the 3rd child in that household was at school with one of my children anyway every day so what is the difference really.

LindaEllen · 31/10/2021 10:51

@PurpleEchoLamp

OK, point taken. I'm a bit clueless, obviously. Thanks all.
'A bit' is an understatement. Where have you been the last 18 months if you don't understand that you don't have people coming into your home if you have a covid+ case?
HazelandChacha · 31/10/2021 10:53

@PurpleEchoLamp

OK, point taken. I'm a bit clueless, obviously. Thanks all.
Frightening!
Sarcobaleno · 31/10/2021 10:54

Good point that if she's recently had COVID she might be ok about it. Ask her. Pay her if she's not comfortable.

TheMooch · 31/10/2021 10:54

No.

agedmother · 31/10/2021 10:58

@cheeseisthebest

Whether she can or not it's not really fair on her is it?
Or the rest of us. The point of self-isolation is to stop transmission chains.

And if you are her employer, health and safety legislation says you must not put her at risk of injury or ill-health through her work.

MabelMoo23 · 31/10/2021 11:10

I do partly agree with @GetOffTheTableMabel

The op is only thinking about her house not being cleaned. Not the lasting impact of her cleaner potentially getting covid

makelovenotpetrol · 31/10/2021 11:18

I agree with @GetOffTheTableMabel it's the sort of kick up the backside the OP needs for a post like this.

It's not clueless OP. It's unbelievably selfish.

Tootsey11 · 31/10/2021 11:31

I'm a cleaner, had a client contact me to say one of the household had covid and the rest were self isolating. Would I mind still coming and cleaning the house as it needed done. Needless to say I didn't. She's a nurse.

And a fortnight a go another client let me come into the house, start work for half an hour, then tell me that one of her children was in the house unwell with a new cough that had developed the evening before. I left sharpish. I didn't get paid in either situation as it was my decision not to work apparently.

Some people clearly don't give a monkeys about their cleaners.

whattodotwittwoo · 31/10/2021 11:42

I agree with @Offthetable too!!! The op is extremely selfish! How about clean your own house?!

PurpleDaisies · 31/10/2021 11:53

You can’t have visitors if you are self isolating. There should be no giving the cleaner the option to come. Look at the rules.

Ruffledcardigan · 31/10/2021 12:25

@PurpleEchoLamp

Yes you’re very clueless (you said it after all). Your poor cleaner having to work for you when you clearly hold her in such poor regard.

Clean your own house whilst your kid recovers, I’m sure you’ll survive.

NailsNeedDoing · 31/10/2021 12:37

Cleaners are akin to the Queen on MN, you don’t get sensible answers.

While it may be against the rules, many of us are just doing what makes sense to us now, so I would call your cleaner and give her the choice. She can choose to come and do her job with reasonable protection like mask, gloves, the infected person staying well away, all windows being open, or she can choose to be extra cautious and stay away.

I wouldn’t pay her if she chose not to come knowing that there are plenty of things that can be don’t to keep her safe. But then I’m a TA who has undoubtedly been around plenty of infected adults and children since the start of this and I don’t have the option of staying at home on full pay, so I don’t see cleaners why should either, especially when there is much more they can easily to protect themselves.

BIWI · 31/10/2021 12:40

When we went into the first lockdown, our cleaner couldn't come to clean for us (she comes once a week). We continued to pay her, but many of her clients didn't.

When she was allowed to come back, she had lost 2 stones in weight because she hadn't been able to afford to eat properly.

We were horrified.

But it confirms that few people think about the situation their cleaners might find themselves in, through no fault of their own.

Ruffledcardigan · 31/10/2021 12:51

@NailsNeedDoing

Oh well that’s okay then, just because you yourself have to work around people infected with covid, cleaners shouldn’t have the option of being paid. It’s not a race to the bottom you know and people do have choices about where they would like to work.

I quit my TA job for that very reason.

Makes me laugh when people make out they’re jobs are like prison sentences. We all have work choices.

Ruffledcardigan · 31/10/2021 12:51

Their

whattodotwittwoo · 31/10/2021 12:54

@nails I sincerely hope you are joking! You can not have people in to clean a house when you have tested positive! Being in care position then yes but not a cleaner.
You sound jealous and bitter of your job..... maybe change careers

SeasonalNamechange · 31/10/2021 12:55

Mumsnet is odd about cleaners

My cleaner has the choice and has chosen to come. People are not as bothered now

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