AIBU That we learn to accept COVID is here to stay!

[Jakie7700]

That now a massive number is double vaccinated those who want to be and that teenagers have started to be offered them, it seems so ridiculous that kids are still losing out on school because they are being sent home as they have a minor cold with minor cough. Covid will still be around in years to come, so will children still be sent home then with a mild cough due to colds?

Many missed days of school waiting for PCR results, parents usually mothers missing work over and over. Nobody seemed to care two years back when these same children were spreading flu, chicken pox etc which can all kill or cause serious complications both in adults and children.

Nothing is going to change you can get COVID again like a cold. Just last week I heard of two friends kids being sent home because of mild cough (coughed three/four times the whole day) missed days of school waiting for results only to be negative and then told this will happen every time they have a cough which as most will know in primary children will be alot over winter! These same parents who have nearly lost jobs due to having to juggle childcare through lockdowns. Surely it is just time to accept COVID is isn't going anywhere and stop making kids espeically suffer.

@XenoBitch well I’m only summarising the WHO website.

80% experience mild infection
15% need oxygen
5% intensive care

www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19

Jakie7700

I did not say at any point I think we should all spread COVID.

But you are saying this.

I am simply saying in my opinion I believe we should as a whole to learn to accept it is here to stay for the time being.

And most people agree with you, but when you do the following

I do consider people outside my own 'bubble and have done nothing but since at a great disadvantage to my own children. I am double vaccinated, I social distance where possible and I still were my mask.

Yet don't seem to realise that in schools this is pretty much impossible, it seems somewhat hypocritical for you to do this yet say others cannot.

@FrippEnos
I understand this is not possible in primary as children in primary have not been offered the vaccine. Hence why as a responsible member of society I am happy to take it to protect myself and others. I do all those things so my children could go back to school. It is not my child's fault that they will not be given the vaccine. It is unfair on them missing out even more again this winter when most adults who want the vaccine have done so.

[quote Merryoldgoat]@XenoBitch well I’m only summarising the WHO website.

80% experience mild infection
15% need oxygen
5% intensive care

www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19[/quote]
Those figures are from like march 2020 when nobody had a clue what was going on and any bad cases were tested.

@Merryoldgoat

I’m sick of these posts.

Accepting its here to stay doesn’t mean you just spread it all over the fucking place.

There are still 5m unvaccinated adults in the U.K. around 20% of unvaccinated people who get infected require medical intervention - that’s 1m people and with a mortality rate of 2% that’s still another 100,000 possible deaths if it’s left to run riot.

Yes, we need to live, enjoy life, accept its endemic but we can still try not to spread it everywhere.

I do feel for the CEV and people who can't get jabs. However I have no interest in putting my life on hold as well as my children's education for those that just don't want the jab.

[quote Merryoldgoat]@XenoBitch well I’m only summarising the WHO website.

80% experience mild infection
15% need oxygen
5% intensive care

www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/question-and-answers-hub/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-covid-19[/quote]
That is way out of date, and also does not make a distinction between vaccinated and unvaccinated, or even different countries where the healthcare systems and demographic vary.

@FrippEnos
So are you suggesting I should stop wearing a mask and social distance because a teacher can't do this? And to be honest me wearing a mask is more protecting others than myself espeically those who cannot for medical reasons have the vaccine

Only bad cases*

While we’re at it let’s get rid of the 24/48hr requirement for d&v or isolation till chicken pox scabs are healed over. My child is fine so I don’t see why they should have to keep away from people.

/s

@Cornettoninja
What's that got to do with my question?

I couldn't agree more. It's a virus. It's going nowhere. Completely ludicrous that kids are bring sent home if they cough! I am sorry if you're CEV but we can't all continue like this indefinitely. It's going nowhere and life goes on.

Life won't go on for a lot of people with that attitude will it?

@Mojoj
Exactly that. In real life most people I know were happy to protect CEV people and wear mask to reduce transmission. Then happy to have both vaccine to protect them and others and also to hopefully live life again. Not for nearly two years later their childrens education to suffer again and have to keep taking time of work when they are close to losing their jobs!

@Merryoldgoat

I’m sick of these posts.

Accepting its here to stay doesn’t mean you just spread it all over the fucking place.

There are still 5m unvaccinated adults in the U.K. around 20% of unvaccinated people who get infected require medical intervention - that’s 1m people and with a mortality rate of 2% that’s still another 100,000 possible deaths if it’s left to run riot.

Yes, we need to live, enjoy life, accept its endemic but we can still try not to spread it everywhere.

👏

Coughed three times?
I call bollocks. Who told you that?

@catgirl1976

I find it frustrating that often the people most vocal about wanting Covid to be over are the ones whose behaviour and attitude mean they are those most likely to be prolonging the pandemic.

Spot on

I find it frustrating that often the people most vocal about wanting Covid to be over are the ones whose behaviour and attitude mean they are those most likely to be prolonging the pandemic

Nobody is prolonging it. It will always be here now.

If people want parents to not send kids in with cold symptoms etc then there needs to be much more acceptance of parents taking leave from work. I'm a teacher. I'm not bothered if I have to take unpaid leave but my school.make such an issue of the inconvenience every time.

@ILookAtTheFloor

Mortality rate is something like 0.025%.

Nothing like 2% ever.

And Spanish Flu was an influenza pandemic. There was a likely coronavirus pandemic in the late 1800s which was, at the time, called Russian Flu. It was very likely to be a coronavirus that is now one of the 4 we have that leads to a cold.

It lasted 5 years with various waves.

Don’t know where you’re getting your minute sub zero statistic from. Here are the mortality stats from Johns Hopkins

coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

@Cornettoninja
Please do not use offensive words regarding people being slow. I am sure many people find that word offensive. Maybe you should learn not to be so vile regarding people who may have learning disabilities who find that offensive. I do hope you aren't a parent.

It won't always be like this. Over time, Covid will become just another illness that we have to live with and accept people will get sick and die from.

However, at the moment - less than two years since the start of the pandemic, and bearing in mind that pandemics generally last 2-3 years, and we've delayed that with lockdowns - we still need to use some mitigations and restrictions to keep vulnerable people safe and our health service functioning. Anything else would be incredibly selfish.

There is also increasing evidence from data that the MRNA vaccines are three-dose vaccines - therefore we all need that 'booster' before we're fully vaccinated, and in future everyone will get three doses (probably as babies).

@CallmeHendricks
You can call what you like. It was a friend, she actually sent me a email where the head confirm the child could not return until negative PCR result.

@catgirl1976

I find it frustrating that often the people most vocal about wanting Covid to be over are the ones whose behaviour and attitude mean they are those most likely to be prolonging the pandemic.

I agree with this 100%

Don’t know where you’re getting your minute sub zero statistic from. Here are the mortality stats from Johns Hopkins

You need to know the difference between the infection fatality rate and the case fatality rate to know that the actual %s are nowhere near that high