Data, Stats, Daily Numbers started 22nd October 2021

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This is the DATA thread.

Our preference is for factual, data driven and analytical contributions.

Please try to keep discussion focused on these.

The links below cover a range of data sources. Ideas for additions or deletions always welcome. PHE probably should be referenced at UKHSA.

UK govt press conferences slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
PHE Variants of Concern Technical Briefings www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
PHE Vaccine efficacy www.gov.uk/government/publications/phe-monitoring-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination
SAGE : Minutes and Models www.gov.uk/government/collections/scientific-evidence-supporting-the-government-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ includes R estimates
PHE Weekly Flu & Covid Surveiilance Reports 2021-22 Season www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2021-to-2022-season
Dashboard Vaccine Map to MSOA level coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Sanger Genome Maps & Data covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
UCL Virus Watch ucl-virus-watch.net/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Sewage www.gov.uk/government/publications/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-19-may-2021-emhp-programme/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-the-environmental-monitoring-for-health-protection-emhp-programme.
Sewage reports www.gov.uk/government/publications/monitoring-of-sars-cov-2-rna-in-england-wastewater-monthly-statistics-june-2021
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHS England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSOA Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

⏭ Our STUDIES Corner ⏮ www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3869571-Studies-corner?msgid=99913434

I’ve scanned the article. I can’t see anything that suggests children are being used in that way

Can someone copy and paste the minute line?

@Piggywaspushed

What do you disagree withBiz? That scientists bicker?

Presumably, you don't agree with my points about Munro but, unlike many other scientists, he has never cleared up early, now plainly wrong, statements he made and has not distanced himself from U4T.

He reminds me if people on do called Edutwitter because he thinks he is on the side of the great and good and spends time rather nastily casting shade upon those who he thinks aren't. But that us just my view.

I am not clear who 'they' are in his tweet though.

I disagree vociferously that he is one of the most “obviously biased” scientists and that he is “smug”. And in general I consider it poor form to attack the character (calling him smug/ biased) of people like AM just because they are expressing a different view to the mainstream.

Can't you see the controversy in the statement that allowing children to become infected is beneficial , marsha? I think the problem is that that isn't developed or explained. I imagine there was a heated discussion about it at the time. I can see the coding in the way the minutes are phrased!

As I said biz, we'll have to disagree there.

@Piggywaspushed

As I said biz, we'll have to disagree there.

Hopefully we can at least agree On the second point, That ad hominem attacks on scientists are best avoided, even if we don’t always agree with their perspectives / conclusions.

My first thought was long term we might see benefits long term for those children too

If it had said adults alone will be benefited by this approach I’d have an issue with it

Maybe an immunologist / expert could say why long term this would benefit everyone in U.K. I’d be interested to know more

Actually,I rather think AM is the mainstream? But , anyway, agreed. Let's not discuss character. You did rather start it by posting his tweet criticising those who were critiquing the JCVI. I think minutes should be read, and read with a critical mind. No one should be above this, as hopefully we will see in any public enquiry.

Pax.

On attacks on scientists I really agree with this

The JCVI are transparent and experts, and yes human

Some of the stuff that has made me uncomfortable is attitude towards scientists / vaccine developers

We need experts, we need transparency and not everyone wants to be attacked on SM

My big problem with the "we need to stop people catching covid narrative" that is inherent in all the vaccination discussion for any age group, is that vaccination is clearly not good enough at preventing infection, if you're advocating for people not catching covid, then you need to advocate lock down. [*] It's the dishonesty.

[*] No, not masks, Wales and Scotland require masks and are no different to England.

@Piggywaspushed

Actually,I rather think AM is the mainstream? But , anyway, agreed. Let's not discuss character. You did rather start it by posting his tweet criticising those who were critiquing the JCVI. I think minutes should be read, and read with a critical mind. No one should be above this, as hopefully we will see in any public enquiry.

Pax.

The tweets I shared weren’t directed against individual persons. They were objecting to the character of the discourse- those that constitute aggressive attacks on the characters of individual members of the JCVI / attributing malicious motivations to their decision making based on tid bits pulled out of the minutes. So, no, I wholeheartedly regret the idea that I “started it”.

Of course we can debate/ critique the decision making process/ conclusions of the JCVI. So we can agree on that at least 👍🏻

@sirfredfredgeorge

My big problem with the "we need to stop people catching covid narrative" that is inherent in all the vaccination discussion for any age group, is that vaccination is clearly not good enough at preventing infection, if you're advocating for people not catching covid, then you need to advocate lock down. [*] It's the dishonesty.

[*] No, not masks, Wales and Scotland require masks and are no different to England.

Huh?

Wanting vaccination to be offered to 12-15 year olds and "we need to stop people catching COVID" are two completely different points. Why are you conflating the two?

Most people were keen for vaccination to be offered to this age group precisely because cases are so high that the decision is between getting COVID and having no protection, or getting COVID and having some protection via immunity.

Not sure how this equivalent for advocating for lockdown. Vaccines by their very nature will reduce transmission and serious illness, lessening the chances that lockdown policies will be needed again.

*via immunity from vaccination

@sirfredfredgeorge

My big problem with the "we need to stop people catching covid narrative" that is inherent in all the vaccination discussion for any age group, is that vaccination is clearly not good enough at preventing infection, if you're advocating for people not catching covid, then you need to advocate lock down. [*] It's the dishonesty.

[*] No, not masks, Wales and Scotland require masks and are no different to England.

Nope, getting the initial insult from the virus is much more likely to be fatal.

Getting the vaccination means you are much less likely to be hospitalised or die.

Wanting people to be vaccinated, wanting people not to be very ill or die and wanting lockdown are very different things.

*and masks do help to some extent, especially FFP2 and above.

@MarshaBradyo

My first thought was long term we might see benefits long term for those children too

If it had said adults alone will be benefited by this approach I’d have an issue with it

Maybe an immunologist / expert could say why long term this would benefit everyone in U.K. I’d be interested to know more

That approach wouldn't benefit everyone in the UK though.

You’d need to say more Here

There may be benefit for a majority - I’d like to hear more on why that would be from expert POV

It’s interesting people read that line and jumped to children for adults when that’s not what it says

@MarshaBradyo

On attacks on scientists I really agree with this

The JCVI are transparent and experts, and yes human

Some of the stuff that has made me uncomfortable is attitude towards scientists / vaccine developers

We need experts, we need transparency and not everyone wants to be attacked on SM

maybe someone like AM shouldn't post controversial views on twitter if he doesn't want people to disagree with him?

Twitter I don’t care about. People generally post stuff from there that backs up their POV. I don’t see it as a useful way to challenge mindset. It doesn’t bring out the best for scientific community either which is why I avoid it.

I’m referring to JCVI specifically - a lot of negative statements on here as a general theme that has grown.

As a body it’s transparent with high level expertise. If people want to post minutes and specially say why it doesn’t sound right or they have issue with it, fine

Better to be specific and scientific re why though, maybe there is a point to it.

Wanting vaccination to be offered to 12-15 year olds and "we need to stop people catching COVID" are two completely different points. Why are you conflating the two?

because this is the motivation for vaccinating this age group - reducing spread among other age groups, individual protection in the age group is equivocal as per the JCVI finding here.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-resources-for-schools/covid-19-vaccination-programme-for-children-and-young-people-guidance-for-schools

Vaccinating children should help to reduce the need for children to have time off school and to reduce the risk of spread of COVID-19 within schools

It's specifically touted by the UK Government to be about reducing spread, not reducing risk to individuals.

Specifically..

@MarshaBradyo

Twitter I don’t care about. People generally post stuff from there that backs up their POV. I don’t see it as a useful way to challenge mindset. It doesn’t bring out the best for scientific community either which is why I avoid it.

I’m referring to JCVI specifically - a lot of negative statements on here as a general theme that has grown.

As a body it’s transparent with high level expertise. If people want to post minutes and specially say why it doesn’t sound right or they have issue with it, fine

Better to be specific and scientific re why though, maybe there is a point to it.

Ah, disagreeing with the content of a JCVI decision is quite legitimate though.

These days, we don't regard scientists as lofty figures in ivory towers who hand down dictats, do we? It's just fine, and in fact healthy, to say that, for example, there appears to be no reason why 2 -15s shouldn't be vaccinated, or to ask why this wasn't organised more quickly.

That isn't an attack on science.

Which is why I’ve said I’m interested in specific scientifically based points of view.

And asked for minutes that people have issue with.

I’m not saying don’t feel you have to not say anything. Just back it up.

@sirfredfredgeorge

Wanting vaccination to be offered to 12-15 year olds and "we need to stop people catching COVID" are two completely different points. Why are you conflating the two?

because this is the motivation for vaccinating this age group - reducing spread among other age groups, individual protection in the age group is equivocal as per the JCVI finding here.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-resources-for-schools/covid-19-vaccination-programme-for-children-and-young-people-guidance-for-schools

Vaccinating children should help to reduce the need for children to have time off school and to reduce the risk of spread of COVID-19 within schools

It's specifically touted by the UK Government to be about reducing spread, not reducing risk to individuals.

If your kids is immunocompromised, it is also about reducing the risk to them.

There is also an issue of spread within clinically vulnerable families, which is actually happening. Obviously, spread is what causes risk to actual individuals, isn't it?

On timing you’d have to review why it was slowed down.

Which data were they waiting on?

If your kids is immunocompromised, it is also about reducing the risk to them

The JCVI were making no judgements on that were they, the authorisation to vaccinate 12-15 year olds was already available to these kids doctors?

There was a decision to allow vaccination for immunocompromised children 12-15 that was made on 20 July.

childliverdisease.org/vaccine-update-12-15-years/

The vaccines weren't made available till very late August, and it was extremely difficult to get hold of appointment slots.

You may remember that
a) almost all mitigations were removed from schools in September and
b) it takes 2 or 3 months to have 2 vaccinations and get a good degree of immunity.