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Data, Stats, Daily Numbers started 22nd October 2021

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boys3 · 22/10/2021 22:22

This is the DATA thread.

Our preference is for factual, data driven and analytical contributions.

Please try to keep discussion focused on these.

The links below cover a range of data sources. Ideas for additions or deletions always welcome. PHE probably should be referenced at UKHSA.

UK govt press conferences slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
PHE Variants of Concern Technical Briefings www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
PHE Vaccine efficacy www.gov.uk/government/publications/phe-monitoring-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination
SAGE : Minutes and Models www.gov.uk/government/collections/scientific-evidence-supporting-the-government-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ includes R estimates
PHE Weekly Flu & Covid Surveiilance Reports 2021-22 Season www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2021-to-2022-season
Dashboard Vaccine Map to MSOA level coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Sanger Genome Maps & Data covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
UCL Virus Watch ucl-virus-watch.net/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Sewage www.gov.uk/government/publications/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-19-may-2021-emhp-programme/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-the-environmental-monitoring-for-health-protection-emhp-programme.
Sewage reports www.gov.uk/government/publications/monitoring-of-sars-cov-2-rna-in-england-wastewater-monthly-statistics-june-2021
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHS England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSOA Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

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Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:09

But what’s childism?

It was a phrase coined earlier in the pandemic about exactly what you believe : that children were not put at the centre of big decision making and made sacrifices for adults. Alwan expands upon this to say that this is still the case and that children's physical (and mental) health is now placed secondary to adults on many occasions.

Her article in the BMJ is linked in the article lonely posted.

MarshaBradyo · 31/10/2021 13:09

For the Covid vaccine?

Is that in the minutes?

I haven’t read fully

herecomesthsun · 31/10/2021 13:10

For example, after vaccinations for 12-15s had been approved as safe by the MHRA, on June 4th the JCVI dragged their heels for several months? Over that period children could have been vaccinated ready for September (like the rest of Europe).

This isn't after the event, it was the obvious thing to do at the time. (I may have mentioned this occasionally)

If they didn't feel they had a mandate to approve vaccination on the grounds of general benefit including education etc., why could a consultation not have been organised with CMOs over the summer? I think we need some answers on this.

Even children who are immunocompromised didn't have approval for their vaccination to go ahead till quite late in the summer (and won't be properly protected for quite a long time to come).

This is factual.

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:15

if you read lonely's posted article , it links you straight to two sets of minutes marsha, although there are several more.

I do think those who are going to stick to the belief (used a lot now by those who hang around school gates intimidating children and teachers ,and also some people on MN) that the JCVI are god like , utterly objective and beyond criticism really at least could read the minutes to see if they still feel that. Which they might.

This may well not be JCVI's look out or fault at all. They say so many times in the minutes that how information was communicated to the public was crucial. It was not their decision that their discussions should be so briefly outlined, and basically heavily edited to one point.

But it is definitely the case that they say they only 'opine' on medical benefit and then do seem to have 'opined' ore widely. In one of the minutes, it is obvious there was a bit of a spat about school attendance. And yet one thing that did come out of their discussions to the public was the belief that post vaccine school attendance drop was a concern. The minutes make it clear that this was contested as a a concern in the meeting.

MarshaBradyo · 31/10/2021 13:17

I’ll have a look but wondering if people had a specific line(s) they disagreed with

herecomesthsun · 31/10/2021 13:19

The line I guess that concerns me most is that vaccination for clinically vulnerable teens was really obvious as the right thing to do. Why did we have to wait months why they dithered?

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:21

To be fair to them , here, they mention this timescale frustration themselves in the minutes in May so am not sure who was heel dragging here.

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:22

Oh, and they do mention (briefly) other ethical concerns such as vaccinating elderly in other countries first so to say they never stray into ethics is plainly not correct. What we can't tell is who raised this , and what the Chair did when they did!

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:26

I don't think it is up to me to 'disagree' with minutes of a meeting I was not at. But I do think the 'heel dragging 'had consequences as, by the times September had come round, the understanding of Delta was hugely different, as was the understanding of the role of children in the transmission of Covid.

My biggest qualm is over what seems to be quite a strong belief in the scientific community that children are a buffer against adult infections. The obfuscation over that does not sit easy with me when they were being represented as having never discussed this, long covid, or school absence. All of these things are minuted. Their discussion on myocarditis , which did come out, are actually very limited.

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:31

Dingwall's Twitter is a fascinating hot mess of political viewpoints! He is very anti mask, pro adult vaccination and anti anti-vaxxers, but retweets Us For them frequently (and some other dodgy people to be honest).

Yet, because he is a university academic, he seems to have a rather hypocritical blind spot about face to face teaching in universities, and the way lecturers have perhaps been treated / spoke of by Michele Donnellan. (personally, I agree with him, but it doesn't work with his other views!)

All of this would be fine, if he weren't a man of considerable influence.

MarshaBradyo · 31/10/2021 13:31

Ok had an issue with…

Bizawit · 31/10/2021 13:32

@Piggywaspushed

Alasdair Munro is one of the most obviously biased scientists on Twitter who has no more knowledge of what happened at those JCVI meetings than any other scientists who have read the minutes. His endless smug subtweeting is tedious.

The science community do like a bicker!

I couldn’t disagree with you more on this.
Bizawit · 31/10/2021 13:35

@Piggywaspushed

And what does he mean by politically motivated? It is always interesting when a phrase like that appears.
He means that the attacks are obviously motivated by political viewpoints about Covid mitigations/ policy , which they are and that they are designed to undermine/ attack someone’s character to discredit them.
Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:49

But his attacks on whoever 'they ' are aren't political?

Oldgoat2021 · 31/10/2021 13:49

This thread has gone downhill fast! I thought it was for facts and figures. Not for calling out scientists for not being fully paid up members of the Loony Left.

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:50

And yet here you are with your 'loony left' comments. Right on cue.

herecomesthsun · 31/10/2021 13:54

It isn't necessarily political though to be concerned that your immunocompromised child hasn't had timely access to vaccination.

One might just want one's child, and similar children, to be protected adequately in a pandemic?

MarshaBradyo · 31/10/2021 13:54

Is this the point in the minutes people are referring to?

Members commented that natural infection in children could have substantial long-term benefits on COVID-19 in the UK.

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:54

What do you disagree withBiz? That scientists bicker?

Presumably, you don't agree with my points about Munro but, unlike many other scientists, he has never cleared up early, now plainly wrong, statements he made and has not distanced himself from U4T.

He reminds me if people on do called Edutwitter because he thinks he is on the side of the great and good and spends time rather nastily casting shade upon those who he thinks aren't. But that us just my view.

I am not clear who 'they' are in his tweet though.

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:55

That's one of them marsha.

MarshaBradyo · 31/10/2021 13:55

It doesn’t say for the benefit of adults

Is there another point I’ve missed?

Bizawit · 31/10/2021 13:56

@Piggywaspushed

But his attacks on whoever 'they ' are aren't political?
No- I haven’t seen him engaging in these kinds of personal attacks. And in my opinion he takes a balanced view, driven by evidence (and good intentions). For example, he has never been opposed to vaccinating children, he has simply emphasised a cautionary approach, based on weighing the potential risks/ benefits to children. If I recall correctly he welcomed the decision to roll out 1 vaccine for 12-15 yr olds, despite the JCVI advise.
Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:56

There are many. There are about seven sets of minutes.

MarshaBradyo · 31/10/2021 13:56

X post

I don’t necessarily read that as children infected for adults.

But the overall Covid picture long term

Piggywaspushed · 31/10/2021 13:57

Biz are you familiar with the subtweet?

We'll have to agree to disagree on his tone.