How many of you will comply?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again.
So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now'
I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

Some of us have family who are both Sometimes in the same person.

Of course. And of course that's very difficult.

That doesn't mean I'm forgoing another Christmas with my parents (who are elderly, so not exactly non vulnerable either). Lockdown isn't a pause button. It's time you don't get back unfortunately.

No. I spent my whole pregnancy in lockdown. The isolation and having a baby whilst still locked down is part of the reason l developed PND . I've had both jabs if called for a booster will do it. But no to locking down, where will it end?

@TheKeatingFive

Some of us have family who are both Sometimes in the same person.

Of course. And of course that's very difficult.

That doesn't mean I'm forgoing another Christmas with my parents (who are elderly, so not exactly non vulnerable either). Lockdown isn't a pause button. It's time you don't get back unfortunately.

I was agreeing with your point of view. My post about the devastating effect of lockdown on my mil with dementia and my autistic kids was the one being picked at.

My post about the devastating effect of lockdown on my mil with dementia and my autistic kids was the one being picked at.

Apologies, I misunderstood

@TheKeatingFive

And yet they have no regard for the many 100s of 1000s of ppl who are immuno compromised or e/CV - throw them under the bus, not an issue.

My immediate family are my concern. That's a human instinct as old as time and i absolutely will not apologise for it.

But why does it have to be an either or? In a normal society both should be in the minds of people. the "low-level" of responsibility (family) is obviously everyone's concern. I agree, human nature. But in this country it seems to stop there. There is no sense of community level responsibility. Whenever it is not immediate family or related to them it becomes someone else's problem. "Fund the NHS more", "everyone else should do xyz, but I won't because for me it's an inconvenience", ...

This is the problem.
I do wonder where this will lead in a few decades.

@LifesTooShortYOLO

I am interested to know if people will comply or not if they bring in Restrictions again about not mixing households, not seeing family or lockdowns etc again. So many people I've spoken to are pretty much all of the same mindset of 'Fu#k that I'm not not seeing my family again, enough is enough and we have to get on with our lives now' I also read this a lot on comments of articles where people are saying no they won't do it again and not see their loved ones or be told what to do over Christmas etc.

What are everyone's overall feelings as things stand right now?

There isn't going to be anything new to comply with. Boris quite categorically stated that after freedom day he would not reintroduce any restrictions.

@jgw1
This fact in itself should lead to him being forcibly removed from being PM. It is equal to a 2 year old stomping their feet, putting their fingers in their ears and singing lalalala loudly.

It is lovely how ppl up so righteous ebcause their autistic/dementia stricken/etc family members or friends have suffered. And yet they have no regard for the many 100s of 1000s of ppl who are immuno compromised or e/CV - throw them under the bus, not an issue.

I have no issue with people who want restrictions brought back in. It’s a valid view and I respect it, and I don’t even entirely disagree with it. What I can’t bear is when people who want restrictions brought back in act as though people don’t are horrible awful selfish twats, like they can’t fathom a reason people would need to break the rules. I don’t know what the solution is, I’m not a health expert, and like everything there isn’t going to be a solution that works for everyone. Argue for more restrictions if that’s what you want, but don’t talk as if you can’t understand why some people find it hard.
People will obviously have views shaped by the people they love and the situations those people are in. If I’d complied completely with the restrictions last winter, my friend who tried to kill herself would be dead, because I wouldn’t have walked round to see her in time to call an ambulance. So while I respect the views of people who want restrictions brought back in, I absolutely cannot respect the view of people who say “shame on you” to those who don’t comply.

@TheSunIsStillShining
I think your post misunderstands the difficulty some people have been through during the last 18 months.

I had a baby at the start of the first lockdown. Once he was discharged from hospital he essentially received no healthcare, I had no support from healthcare professionals, wasn't allowed to see my family, there was nothing open I could take him to for months on end - even parks were shut. I feel like the covid restrictions basically took away a lot of the joy from the first year of his life and still things aren't completely normal for him.

My feeling after all this was that society completely deprioritised children and was willing to damage their health and development to supposedly protect others. And that meant my job was to absolutely prioritise my son. That was an emotional response but I still feel it now and it's a large part of the reason I will never stop seeing my family again or comply with other rules (as far as possible) which are harmful to my DS.

And I'm well aware that many people have been worse affected by the restrictions than I have.

There is a direct trade off - the restrictions involve taking a normal happy life and opportunities away from some people (particularly children) to possibly protect others. Even "low level" restrictions like masks affect young children's speech and language development if they spend a lot of time around people wearing them.

It's so wrong to say working from home 'doesn't require too much'. It's absolutely destroyed my mental health and my confidence and left me struggling in a job that I actually really enjoy.

I meant 'doesn't require too much' as in restrictions required. I get that WFH was a challenge and mentally really hard on a lot of people. I personally much preferred the hybrid working model. But I'd rather work from home and see friends than be in the office full time and not see friends. I think reduced exposure would be a good thing: Rota systems so only half the workforce are in the office at any one time, reduced capacity for meeting rooms, etc. So that it's not isolating like it was before, but managed to reduce exposure and thus reduces the spread.

@acatcalledjohn If that belief makes you feel better about being forced to wearing a mask then great.

No , I would support masks being brought back though and encouraging wfh and households still isolating when a covid case within the house hold and some better measures in schools

People who put faith in mask wearing like it's the holy grail of virus control. Do you have any idea how microscopic a virus strand is compared to the gaps within mask fibres?

Wearing a mask and expecting it to help contain the spread of covid is akin to putting one traffic cone in the middle of the road and expecting it to prevent cars from passing.

@LillianGish exactly it makes sense
I don't like wearing a mask but for a few hrs around a shop or walking into a restaurant I can manage .
I get there will be some that it is a real struggle but I think thats realistically just a few
Where I live lot of mask wearing in shops etc but we still have high cases

@WitchyNameChange so all the experts are wrong ? There not fool proof no but if they stop some particles its better than nothing

@truthsayer35 they have been giving out flu jabs to kids for ages
How dare you judge another parents choice , you don't want to vaccinate yours then don't
Some children are also vulnerable or live with vulnerable people
My friend who is having chemo to keep her alive , son had a covid jab to protect her because he wanted to , she is not vile She just wants to be around to be there for her child as she is all they have