Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

Original poster

To think most people would prefer pubs and restaurants close in December than miss out on Christmas with their families again.

450 replies

katedan · 21/10/2021 08:40

Plan C of the health secretaries plan if numbers continue to rise and masks and SD don't work is to ban people going around peoples homes again, surely it is better and safer as it will be less people together if they close bars and restaurants and let people have Christmas with family this year.

OP posts:
sashagabadon · 21/10/2021 08:54

Definitely not!

sashagabadon · 21/10/2021 08:55

We’re also being told 50% of cases are in the under 19’s. They don’t go to pubs and clubs so it would make little difference.

Overthebow · 21/10/2021 08:55

I’m seeing family at Christmas no matter what. Wasn’t allowed to see any family at Christmas last year and we stuck to it, not doing the same this year. I guess if pubs stay open the. I get to go to the pub and see family so I vote that.

MordenLarch · 21/10/2021 08:55

Good god no! I’d rather go to the pub or a restaurant any time. I can’t stand Christmas

bangonthedoorgroovychick · 21/10/2021 08:55

Noop I'd rather the pubs open. DH is a chef in a pub, you've got to think of people who have jobs in that sector OP.
Having money to pay the bills and mortgage/rent is more important than seeing extended families for Christmas for 1 day I'm afraid

megletthesecond · 21/10/2021 08:56

Just to clarify my yanbu. All I care about is kids at school and the NHS not breaking.

WitchyNameChange · 21/10/2021 08:56

No thanks. My son works in hospitality and his business won't survive being closed down again. He's not the only one in this situation either.

SantasLittleHoHoHo · 21/10/2021 08:57

Hell no! Getting married in December (church then pub!). It could be raining fire and I'm walking down that aisle!!

rookiemere · 21/10/2021 08:57

We didn't see family last year, there's due to be 12 of us in our house for Christmas day this year, happening unless it's forbidden to travel to Scotland again ( which it probably will be). When will this bloody nightmare end ?

Waxonwaxoff0 · 21/10/2021 08:58

@megletthesecond

Just to clarify my yanbu. All I care about is kids at school and the NHS not breaking.
Some people care about being able to work and pay their bills, shockingly. All very well not to care if your income doesn't rely on pubs being open.
WitchyNameChange · 21/10/2021 08:58

Also wouldn't comply with not seeing family whatever the 'rules' are. Never again will the government tell me who I can and can't spend time with, especially when it comes to close family.

Aposterhasnoname · 21/10/2021 08:59

I guess by “most people”, you mean those that don’t rely on them for their livelihoods. I’m also going to stick my neck out here , and say that you don’t rely on the hospitality sector for your income.

sqirrelfriends · 21/10/2021 08:59

Nah, people need to work to earn money. People's livelihoods are a bit more important than a nice Christmas.

MiloAndEddie · 21/10/2021 09:02

I’d say no to this too. Hospitality is on its knees already, so many businesses wouldn’t survive and so many people would be out of a job.

I dread to think what will happen if there are school closures/business closures/lockdowns etc, there are an awful lot of people on the edge already without those things.

Glitterybug · 21/10/2021 09:02

There's no way they're ruining another Christmas. We all missed out on a last Christmas with my nan because of his shitty fucking tier 4 and she was absolutely heartbroken. She's just passed away. Me and all my family are double jabbed so Johnson can fuck off.

rhowton · 21/10/2021 09:04

I would rather keep the restaurants open thanks.... I will be seeing my family regardless!

AnkleDeep · 21/10/2021 09:05

YANBU.

Family matters more than pubs. They aren't essential.

PowerNap · 21/10/2021 09:06

YABU

The only positive of lockdown was not having to see my in-laws.

Love pubs/restaurants/galleries/theatres/cinemas/gym

CornishGem1975 · 21/10/2021 09:07

Nope, I like to go out and I like to spend Christmas with my own immediate family at home, so I'd rather hospitality stay open. Quite happy just having Christmas with my DP and children.

PicsInRed · 21/10/2021 09:07

Like many, my family are all abroad. Sure, lock us in the house alone for a month or two, what damage could that do to a few million isolated migrants?

And, sure, close all the businesses again. They don't need money. To fuck with the livelihoods of millions amirite? Let them eat cake.

Speaking of which, enjoy baking your banana bread.

nancy75 · 21/10/2021 09:08

I don’t understand why they are waiting to bring back mask wearing/ some limits on numbers in buildings/distancing.
Why not just do the easy stuff now (actually should have been a few weeks ago)
Also wondering if just single jabs for under 18s is enough

MimosaFields · 21/10/2021 09:08

Not me. It would be like last Christmas when we ended up with both: no pubs and no family. If I had to choose one, I'd rather leave the pubs and restaurants open, and if I want to, I will meet with family in one of them. It doesn't need to be exactly on Christmas day. I don't think many people will be following the stupid rules any more. Everyone who wanted to has been vaccinated. I am not going to change my life to protect those who have actively decided not to get vaccinated.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 21/10/2021 09:08

@AnkleDeep

YANBU.

Family matters more than pubs. They aren't essential.

They are for the people who work in them.
nancy75 · 21/10/2021 09:09

@AnkleDeep

YANBU.

Family matters more than pubs. They aren't essential.

They are if you work in one
godmum56 · 21/10/2021 09:10

its not a question of what people want and don't want but what will help. Its much easier to manage ventilation, social distancing and so on in a public area, than it is in a private house where folk can do what they please.