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Data, Stats and Daily Numbers started 26th September 2021

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boys3 · 26/09/2021 17:54

This is the DATA thread. We welcome factual, data driven and analytical contributions
Please try to keep discussion focused on these
UK govt press conferences slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
PHE Variants of Concern Technical Briefings www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
PHE Vaccine efficacy www.gov.uk/government/publications/phe-monitoring-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination
SAGE : Minutes and Models www.gov.uk/government/collections/scientific-evidence-supporting-the-government-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ includes R estimates
PHE Weekly Flu & Covid Surveiilance Reports 2021-22 Season www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-2021-to-2022-season
Dashboard Vaccine Map to MSOA level coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Sanger Genome Maps & Data covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
UCL Virus Watch ucl-virus-watch.net/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Sewage www.gov.uk/government/publications/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-19-may-2021-emhp-programme/wastewater-testing-coverage-data-for-the-environmental-monitoring-for-health-protection-emhp-programme.
Sewage reports www.gov.uk/government/publications/monitoring-of-sars-cov-2-rna-in-england-wastewater-monthly-statistics-june-2021
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHS England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSOA Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

Our STUDIES Cornerwww.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3869571-Studies-corner?msgid=99913434

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amicissimma · 08/10/2021 22:33

But if Kit Yates' theory is right, why do people get repeated positives on repeated LFTs, sometimes while other family members get negatives?

It's a bit strange if one person keeps hitting the 0.03% of tests that are false positives. Shouldn't they expect to get one of the 99.97% of true negatives on tests number 2, 3, 4 or even 5? Or is it some function of the individual, rather than the test? Kit only mentions tests not testees.

MsWarrensProfession · 08/10/2021 22:34

Probably not, Hendricks. The thing that's new and worrying is the number of cases with characteristic Covid symptoms and/or close contact with confirmed Covid cases who've had positive LFTs followed by negative PCRs.

boys3 · 08/10/2021 22:38

I struggle to see any data, anywhere, that starts to back it up

does not of course mean I should not still try to look for it, even though I am yet to be convinced that it exists.

As such the, possibly excessively colourful graphics, look at the number of cases by age band for:

as reported Friday 24th September for spec dates Monday 20th to Thursday 23rd September; 88,444 cases; 28.6% in the 10-14s; 51.9% in the under 19 age bands in total.

as reported last Friday for spec dates Monday 27th September to Thursday 30th September; 89,031; less than 1% overall like for like increase, a net increase of 587 cases.

That less than 1% however hides a myriad of sins, and is of course BB (Before Bond).

Big drop in the 5-9s; 1,368 fewer cases; a drop of 14%.

Slight fall also in 10-14s, 261 fewer cases, though still 28% of cases for that period.

20-34s either slight fall or almost imperceptible increase

45-54s added 1,110 cases; increases of 7% and 15% respectively. 40-59s overall added 1683 cases.

60-74s and 75+ both added around 200 cases, an 11% week on week increase for the latter.

as reported today for spec dates Monday 4th October to Thursday 7th October; 101,252 by known age (implying we have better age info than sub-national geography info); giving us the close to 14% like for like period increase, or 12,221 increase in cases.

Biggest absolute increase in the 5-9 age group, 1518 increase, although that leaves them not much above the equivalent position two weeks earlier. And perhaps begs the separate question as to the previous dip. Let's not get side-tracked though.

close to 1200 extra cases for the 10-14s, an age band which still accounts for over 1 in 4 cases in the period being looked at.

20-29s increasing; but below the overall percentage. an extra 595 cases between them.

30-39s an extra 1536 cases; 15% and 17% increases. Jury out on this one. Although the percentage of cases that these bands add is not disproportionate to their percentage of the overall population. 12.5% v 13.4%

Into our arguably mainly secondary parental groups, 3870 cases added by the 40-59s. 31.7% of the additional cases from these four age bands.

Heading into probable grand-parent territory we find the biggest week on week growth in percentage terms. 60-74s add 1924 cases, a 35.6% increase. A group also increasingly likely to see the risk of waning immunity as opposed to those younger.

Finally 75s and over; 496 extra cases; a 23% increase.

Do I think this presents a compelling cinema argument? No

Do I think it completely rules out the cinema argument? Also No, but does little to actively support it either.

Are spreading up the generations from school; plus waning immunity still in the mix? Yes, in the mix being the operative phase.

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Data, Stats and Daily Numbers started 26th September 2021
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boys3 · 08/10/2021 22:50

or even operative phrase

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Perihelion · 08/10/2021 23:42

It's very odd. My area of Edinburgh a few weeks ago was over 1300 per 100k. Now it's 223 and no cases in DD's high school for the last week. How's vaccination of 12-15 year olds going in England? It's at 32% in Scotland, which seems quite remarkable as there's no in school vaccination scheme.
Pondering effects other than 007, the end of furlough, pay day weekend, petrol panic, ( more car sharing and use of public transport ) and the weather turning colder?

boys3 · 08/10/2021 23:50

a bit too generic but some published stats on UK cinema audience demographics

www2.bfi.org.uk/sites/bfi.org.uk/files/downloads/bfi-statistical-yearbook-audiences-2019.pdf

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JanglyBeads · 08/10/2021 23:56

Trafford’s Councillor Mike Freeman:
"There remains a sense out there that this pandemic is over and I cannot help feeling that central government have somewhat abandoned our children, their parents, schools and staff within schools to the ravages of Covid-19.”

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/very-grave-situation-trafford-infection-21806060?fbclid=IwAR0S6rbUT2eYXoF4h2Jwc9BNl64kj-E3i9i7UXnZCAW-H-cbZPSzagY-_4A

boys3 · 09/10/2021 00:00

How's vaccination of 12-15 year olds going in England?

Slowly.

@Perihelion just edged out of single figure percentage.

11%

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations?areaType=nation&areaName=England

56% for the 16-17 yr olds, underwhelming. as compared with almost 73% in Scotland;

There must be a a really wide variation. The council area I live in (English council area) is 30% for 12-15s and 75% for 16-17s.

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boys3 · 09/10/2021 00:11

following on from Jangly's link

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=ltla%26areaName=Trafford#card-cases_by_specimen_date_age_demographics

Heat map for Trafford - they probably need to think about the colour scaling.

15-19s 748 per 100,000

40-44s 738 per 100,000

45-49s 773 per 100,000

and just a very slightly darker colour

10-14s 3133 per 100,000 ; 4 times higher than those three bands above

5-9s at 1214 per 100,000

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boys3 · 09/10/2021 00:18

In contrast 10-14s latest published rate in Manchester is 800 per 100,000

and 45-49s 290 per 100,000

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boys3 · 09/10/2021 00:31

repeat of the earlier broad age group graphic looking at Mon-Thurs spec date cases as reported on the Friday for North East and North West

34% of the additional cases this week as compared to last week in the NE in the 0-19 age bands; figure for the NW is 43%

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boys3 · 09/10/2021 00:31

and Zebedee now calls.

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3asAbird · 09/10/2021 06:09

I am confused by latest council email

187 per 100k
800 new cases last 7days.
With 2 large university returning , massive amounts short staff in businesses, bus service and many teachers being off.
All we get given us vaccination rate is stuck at 76% over 16 had least 1 dose.
Hardly any local schools here have been offered the covid 19 vaccine under 16s.
We cannot attend walk in centres and tried to se up gp would consider as 15 year old has ashma.
They say the NHS that do vaccines is also short staffed.

We discuss rates for different age groups.
But wondered whats the r value.
If 1 in 14 according to ons had covid last week and 100k plus how many adults yo 100k teens potentially pass the virus onto?

My concerns are so many reports that teenagers have had covid twice..
Also Christmas if rates equally as high combined with mass meeting if family , waning immunity in older groups and even double vaxxed middle aged teachers and parents ending up in hospital then this high figure should worry others.

School and teens are not a independent block of society they take public transport.

Also concerns about the stats

Issues with postive lft negative pcr
They only report people who had covid once.
Do they report % breakthrough infection or those who had it twice anywhere?
Some are not following up postives with pcr lowering official stats.

Piggywaspushed · 09/10/2021 06:40

It's at 32% in Scotland, which seems quite remarkable as there's no in school vaccination scheme.

It's the fact that there is an in school programme that is slowing it down. It's piecemeal and chaotic. Not sure why this isn't making the press more, as otherwise people are able to suggest that there is vaccine hesitancy and really , a tiny number of schools have had a vaccination day and those that have have often not got anything like all students jabbed who consented.

As for 16=17 year olds, quite a lot surely have had covid recently so are either having to wait 30 days still or now think there is no point at the moment. DS is having his today because he is 17, had covid in the summer and we were waiting until he was 17 1/2 so that a second dose might actually be offered. Loads of 17 year olds are waiting a bit because there is still no clarification about hat happens if they aren't double jabbed when they turn 18.

BlueSkyThunking · 09/10/2021 06:51

Although I agree schools are a big contributing factor to our current numbers, I see having schools in as an essential part of society. I think it is ok to question whether things like cinemas and music festivals should be allowed if we are concerned about the volume of covid cases. What is the point of data if we don’t talk about how to reduce the numbers. Perhaps the young adults who went to music festivals in august went home to younger siblings who then went back to school in September. Perhaps some of those at the bond launch events are young teachers etc

Itisasecret · 09/10/2021 10:13

I’m glad the data bods are looking into the LTF/PCR issue. It’s causing real issues in the SW. school staff/pupils with bad Covid symptoms/neon light + LTF which get stronger. Negative PCR and back into school they go.

JanglyBeads · 09/10/2021 10:19

Bristol Oliver considers the LFT/PCR issues

twitter.com/bristoliver/status/1446741900678029312?s=21

Itisasecret · 09/10/2021 10:34

I think of you live in an area where this is very prevalent (I do) and work in an environment where this is very prevalent (I do). You realise it’s more that just social media whispers. People have been taking about it in the SW for weeks. It’s really of a high prevalence down here. Especially Bristol/Bath/Swindon.

mrshoho · 09/10/2021 10:49

It's being talked about in NW London also. My Son tested positive on LFT with symptoms but his PCR was negative. His school has suddenly got very high absence rates and lots of kids coming back after a negative PCR. The bad cold everyone is talking about is sweeping through very much like it was Jan/Feb. 2020.

JanglyBeads · 09/10/2021 11:01

Yes I agree @Itisasecret

YourKidsIf · 09/10/2021 11:07

The simplest answer to the big increase is that they’ve investigated the issue with positive LFTs and Negative PCRs. And realised that there was an error in the process which meant that people who were positive were being recorded as negative by mistake. And now they have put that right.

JanglyBeads · 09/10/2021 11:14

But that would contradict what they’ve said…. Or is that your point?

boys3 · 09/10/2021 12:19

@YourKidsIf

The simplest answer to the big increase is that they’ve investigated the issue with positive LFTs and Negative PCRs. And realised that there was an error in the process which meant that people who were positive were being recorded as negative by mistake. And now they have put that right.
They haven’t given that would stand out like a sore thumb in any specimen date analysis.

A cynic might of course say that a yet could be included in the above somewhere.

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JanglyBeads · 09/10/2021 12:25

Labour and even ex vaccines - now Education Minister calling for 12-15 yo jabs to given at walk in centres as well as in schools

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-school-children-vaccine-latest-b1934864.html?fbclid=IwAR3mPFxPvJlsvMSlQl_2XxNHae4H5X2JuP6H3jYU7gFtI86lopL2qXLuALA

sirfredfredgeorge · 09/10/2021 12:45

They haven’t given that would stand out like a sore thumb in any specimen date analysis

And would stand out as increase in PCR confirmed LFD's and not straight PCR's which we actually have.

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