Liklihood of another lockdown?

[JustPloddingAlong123]

Yes I know nobody can tell the future. But I'm just wondering what the general consensus is/ how likely you think another lockdown is? I'm hoping worst case masks again.
I want to start my daughter back at a club she went too, we stopped because she doesn't get on with zoom lessons and it was a waste of money during lockdown. Worth signing her back up or waiting a bit longer?

Many still wearing them here. Esp in supermarket

Here too. Went into Preston for first time in about a year today. Lots of mask wearing just walking along the streets, almost total compliance in shops.

@RedToothBrush

lannistunut , there is a reason I am still wearing my mask when no other fucker is even though I don't have to and I'm not clinically vulnerable...

...fully expecting it at some point.

I'm of the same mindset, tired of people saying we don't have to, which is not the same as we don't need to.

I still wear a mask in some places but not all now. When I went to the large, half empty garden centre I didn't but I do in the corner shop for example

@ethelredonagoodday no chance. Loads of people on here had 'friends in the NHS' planning august and September lockdowns.

No one can really say for sure, the only things that's certain is that the government are not organised enough to be getting comms ready for an autumn lockdown already.

Mask wearing in my area dropped considerably a few weeks ago. Didn’t last long, now many wearing masks again.

@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind

*Maybe because I don't want the CEV to be treated like sitting ducks.

Which is exactly what they are without restrictions.*

How are CEV people being treated like sitting ducks when they are fully vaccinated and about to receive a booster? How long do you expect people to put their lives on hold for? How much more can be done realistically? There are always going to be people who are vulnerable to something- that is life and it sucks but it is what it is. Society can't perpetually grind to a halt because of it- because that causes serious harm to another group of people.

You really do want this to go on forever don't you, and enjoy your false sense of moral superiority when doom-mongering on here.

Ah, you don't get it, do you?

If we'd have done what I've been saying and kept low-level restrictions over the summer, we'd likely be going into winter in a positive position.

As it stands though, the NHS is on the brink of breakdown because our government just let Delta rip.

@NannyAndJohn remind us again why you're not in charge?

[quote QueenLagertha]@NannyAndJohn do you realise the knock on implications of further lockdowns/restrictions?
i.e decimate our economy, increase house prices, increase taxes and national insurance, impact on education, physical/mental health, increase poverty not to mention serious implications for children who are already vulnerable.

Can you honestly not see any of this?

Do you think we should keep locking down for years? [/quote]
Do you think we should keep locking down for years?

No, in fact if low-level non-obstructive mitigations are kept in place then there'd be no need for Lockdowns at all.

But with our government it's either Lockdown or nothing.

@NannyAndJohn what mitigations aren't obstructive?Bar mask wearing and not sure that's enough to do anything.

[quote isthisok22]@NannyAndJohn remind us again why you're not in charge?[/quote]
Because I'm not a white man who went to Eton.

But that's an entirely different topic altogether.

[quote isthisok22]@NannyAndJohn what mitigations aren't obstructive?Bar mask wearing and not sure that's enough to do anything.[/quote]
Ideally FFP2 masks would be required, like in Germany. Masks do make a difference either way though.

Also things like SD, WFH if possible, limited numbers on public transport. The Rule of Six could be used as a very last resort.

Yes, it's not ideal. But it's infinitely better than our government's strategy of six months letting it rip, six months in Lockdown, rinse and repeat.

No, in fact if low-level non-obstructive mitigations are kept in place then there'd be no need for Lockdowns at all.

I know it’s very comforting to cling to this, but it isn’t even slightly true.

In ROI, delta surged with all hospitality closed and no indoor mixing allowed. Nothing short of strict lockdown would have kept numbers down and even with that, they’re struggling in Aus.

[quote isthisok22]@ethelredonagoodday no chance. Loads of people on here had 'friends in the NHS' planning august and September lockdowns.

No one can really say for sure, the only things that's certain is that the government are not organised enough to be getting comms ready for an autumn lockdown already.[/quote]
I'm not saying it's going to happen, I'm
saying it's one option that they're making plans for...

@NannyAndJohn gets a hard time but a lot of what they say is hardly extreme, just stating covid realities.

IMO the govt had an Alpha plan and refused to amend it for Delta.

@MercyBooth

Suck it up they said on here. Its only for one Christmas they said.

Better run and tell the universe it's not fair

@TheKeatingFive

No, in fact if low-level non-obstructive mitigations are kept in place then there'd be no need for Lockdowns at all.

I know it’s very comforting to cling to this, but it isn’t even slightly true.

In ROI, delta surged with all hospitality closed and no indoor mixing allowed. Nothing short of strict lockdown would have kept numbers down and even with that, they’re struggling in Aus.

Well we had it far worse than ROI, and Australia had hardly anyone vaccinated.

I'm sorry for being optimistic!

Because I'm not a white man who went to Eton.

But that's an entirely different topic altogether.

I dunno, its a pretty special skill to spout as much bollocks as men from Eton.

@lannistunut

We won't get herd immunity, whether kids get it or not

It’ll be good enough.

Well we had it far worse than ROI

I don’t think that’s true, we had highest rates per 100,000 in Europe a short while ago. Point is low level mitigations don’t keep it in check.

I'm sorry for being optimistic!

Chokes on tea 😆

I dunno, its a pretty special skill to spout as much bollocks as men from Eton.

😂

Complacency.
Freak out.
Complacency.

Repeat until 2024, or something like that.

[quote lannistunut]@NannyAndJohn gets a hard time but a lot of what they say is hardly extreme, just stating covid realities.

IMO the govt had an Alpha plan and refused to amend it for Delta.[/quote]
Hahaha, good one. 🤣

TBF though, whenever nanny comes out with a prediction, the opposite usually happens so they can crack on with the negativity as far as I'm concerned.

@MrsLCSofLichfield

Complacency. Freak out. Complacency.

Repeat until 2024, or something like that.

I think its more like wait for all the vaccine refusers to catch covid and either be perfectly fine or be seriously ill...

...cos thats essentially the limit factor now.

Herd immunity isn't possible nor will it be good enough!

And I've heard that at work ( in the NHS)
Very different to the pp who said we will get herd immunity who also works for the NHS.

I wish my local trust was at their plateau. Our numbers are still going up and rapidly. Staff numbers going down.
Still it is good to know that there are spaces in other trusts where numbers are levelling out should anyone need to transfer out of county. That wasn't even an option last time.
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