Page 6 | Will there be another lockdown

RoseRedRoseBlue · 07/09/2021 00:55

@katesbushh that’s very much how I feel.

MercyBooth · 07/09/2021 01:01

So normal family life is now decided by what NHS beds are available. Agree with the PP who said this will affect vaccine uptake.

irresistibleoverwhelm · 07/09/2021 01:08

Given that cases - and risk of more lockdowns - are rising precisely because there’s not yet enough vaccine uptake, people would have to be quite monumentally thick to decide not to have a booster because there might be a lockdown.

Perhaps it’s that kind of thick, stupid and counterproductive behaviour from the public that’s prolonging the situation in the first place.

NannyAndJohn · 07/09/2021 01:11

@hayley037

It will be the single biggest dent in public confidence in vaccines.

Good luck trying to get high take up in any boosters if any form of lockdown is introduced.

I'd think it'd be quite the opposite - the threat of another Lockdown would surely entice the vaccine-shy to go out and get it done.

Snugglybuggly · 07/09/2021 01:40

No!

Lostinacloud · 07/09/2021 02:02

Doesn’t brother me in the slightest that some posters have descended into calling me a nutter and congratulating themselves for picking one out! That is after all what we have been asked to think of anybody questioning the pandemic strategy.

It remains incomprehensible to me that some people would still call for lockdowns, despite huge evidence that they do more harm than good, and who think that vaccinating teens is the answer. You only have to glance at Israel to see the absolute madness that lies ahead if we continue to follow this path and so perhaps we need more “nutters” to stop and free think before we are still arguing about whether there will be a lockdown in October 2025.

cabbageking · 07/09/2021 02:03

If we have 5 or more cases in school we will consider closing and only take vulnerable children.

Hence I hope everyone is still careful so we don't get to that point.

KalvinPhillipsManBun · 07/09/2021 02:07

@MaxNormal

Rumours all over twitter today of a new lockdown in October so looks like the waters are being tested.

Never seen any on Twitter today at all

MercyBooth · 07/09/2021 02:13

Trending in United Kingdom
#NoMoreLockdowns
3,268 Tweets

KalvinPhillipsManBun · 07/09/2021 02:30

@MercyBooth

Trending in United Kingdom #NoMoreLockdowns 3,268 Tweets

And that's still not a lot considering how many Twitter users there are!

Suzi888 · 07/09/2021 02:50

Probably.

BooseysMom · 07/09/2021 03:40

But we were all told to get vaccinated. We did. If 90% of us being vaccinated doesn't stop further lockdowns then we're screwed frankly

This

BritinDelco · 07/09/2021 03:51

@BooseysMom

But we were all told to get vaccinated. We did. If 90% of us being vaccinated doesn't stop further lockdowns then we're screwed frankly

This

Agreed!

Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/09/2021 05:32

Who knows. I don't think compliance will be high. I certainly won't be staying away from family and friends again. Firebreaks don't work.

They'd have to reintroduce furlough.

nannynick · 07/09/2021 05:50

I'm a nanny and last time was working for parents in NHS / Military so we were exempt... still worked. If they do a lockdown then it only applies to some people, would it cover enough people to make a big enough difference?

PhilCornwall1 · 07/09/2021 05:51

@Nicknacky

Thank god. It’s not a lockdown thread without *@NannyAndJohn* appearing with their paranoia again.

Was wondering how many posts there would be, before they popped up.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/09/2021 05:55

@nannynick

I'm a nanny and last time was working for parents in NHS / Military so we were exempt... still worked. If they do a lockdown then it only applies to some people, would it cover enough people to make a big enough difference?

And those of us in non keyworker roles who still have to work will need to use family for help with childcare. I had to do this last year. There's an assumption that everyone who isn't a keyworker can work from home and it's not the case.

nannynick · 07/09/2021 06:10

@Waxonwaxoff0 Exactly, the WFH idea is not practical for a lot of people. Young children are put at risk from other dangers if they are not sufficiently supervised.

Children have missed a lot of education, talk of catch up over the Summer seems to have been purely talk - did anything happen? Is a two week October half term really going to help with catching up? Can all pupils access online schooling? Would they access it even if it was available?

Popcornriver · 07/09/2021 06:14

It's a joke surely? Current advice is even if both parents are positive then children still go to school. If the government think cases will spiral they need to take action now instead of waiting until things are out of control. Maybe they should rethink the new isolation rules.

traumatisednoodle · 07/09/2021 06:17

Given that cases - and risk of more lockdowns - are rising preciselybecausethere’s not yet enough vaccine uptake, people would have to be quitemonumentallythick to decidenotto have a booster because there might be a lockdown

This. Yes our hospital is full on OPEL amber status and it's only the 7th of September.

FredaFox · 07/09/2021 06:23

My mum currently has caters, they told us weeks ago the hospital is at capacity, my mums waiting for a care package, she's still with nhs as carers are struggling due to COVID, the hospital is desperate to discharge people but can't due to no care available

Maybe not all locations are at capacity but a lot are and we aren't in winter peak yet

Iggly · 07/09/2021 06:28

@MercyBooth

So normal family life is now decided by what NHS beds are available. Agree with the PP who said this will affect vaccine uptake.

Well it always was on the pandemic.

Funny how people forget what things were like when this all kicked off.

TheReluctantPhoenix · 07/09/2021 06:38

@MercyBooth,

Normal family life has always been decided by our ability to look after people. If you want an NHS, then NHS beds could be the limiting factor.

What a lot of people (like you) fail to realise is that when risk to lives exceeds a certain threshold, people lock themselves down anyway if they can afford to (exodus of the rich to country homes during the Black Death??).

What do you want to happen? Oxygen running out? People gasping to death in tents, untreated (save for morphine, hopefully)?

It looks like we should be introducing distancing and mask wearing measures sooner rather than later, and then maybe we could avoid a lockdown.

And we should vaccinate teens (and younger children) as soon as possible. They take it home and give it to older parents and grandparents, some of whom end up hospitalised.

TheReluctantPhoenix · 07/09/2021 06:40

And before people chant ‘COVID is not the black death’, without medical treatment it will probably have an IFR of 3% or so, and people these days just won’t accept that if they have a choice.

Look how many rich bankers etc are aghast at returning to offices, even vaccinated and with an NHS with capacity.

chocolateorangeinhaler · 07/09/2021 06:42

Hope not. We don't need one. Look what's happened in New Zealand and oz because they were so good at lockdowns. They are now on the back foot.