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No vaccines for healthy 12-15 Yr olds

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Wellbythebloodyhell · 03/09/2021 16:06

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccines-will-not-be-recommended-for-healthy-children-aged-12-to-15-government-advisers-say-12398444

Is anyone else glad this potential decision has been taken away? I was very much undecided about vaccinating my older dc and now feel a bit of a weight has been lifted now its not something I need to consider.

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Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:27

Berating them more for their constant reassertions of misinformation Ffrothi... we are not the ones who called people who want to choose the vaccine sheep .

stepupandbecounted · 06/09/2021 08:30

I noticed that too Ffroth it has got absolutely nothing to do with them! It is none of their business the informed choices we make for our own children.

stepupandbecounted · 06/09/2021 08:33

Yes it was published in the Telegraph on the 5th of September under the article: 'We are all likely to catch covid - and that makes continuing restrictions obsolete' written by the Legislator Daniel Hannan.

'75% of 15-24 years old have had covid'

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Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:35

Have had covid at any point does not equal antibodies. I think the latest estimate is 50% but a lot of uncertainty is attached to that and it varies massively across the regions.

Can't read Telegraph link : paywall.

Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:37

afaik, Daniel Hannan wants business back open and is an opponent of any restrictions. he has no scientific or medical expertise.

Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:38

ps 15-24 year olds is not same as 12-15...

Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:39

It is none of their business the informed choices we make for our own children.

I have said so myself repeatedly.

But that informed is oh so snide.

stepupandbecounted · 06/09/2021 08:39

It is not MISINFORMATION to be questioning the need for vaccinating perfectly healthy children with an untested vaccine piggy

Honestly I would think even you, with your cult like obsession with vaccinating anything that moves, would understand that in the absence of a valid, long standing and validated safety record for mRNA, some parents may feel reticent about it!!

Blindly steaming on with vaccinating in lieu of some pretty fundamental basics -such as long term data on side effects that could be fatal - is at best naive and at worst downright dangerous.

stepupandbecounted · 06/09/2021 08:40

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Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:41

I am not going to continue arguing with you about the testing : that ahs been done by several posters and you ignore.

Saying the vaccine is untested in order to sway others you are correct is not misinformation. It is disinformation.

Please don't suggest I am in a cult. You are becoming more and more aggressive tbh.

Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:43

Day after day? that would be you too!

the stats are for 15-24 year olds, it seems.

As I said, having had an infection is not the same.

The 'w e are all going to get it anyway' brigade are the new force, I note.

Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:43

What stats have I made up? Can you point those out please?

borntobequiet · 06/09/2021 08:43

And I keep telling you beware that vaccines usually take DECADES of trials, decades of huge studies and data, decades to be absolutely sure they are safe. The mRNA only had its first large study LAST YEAR, that was the very first one. It is nowhere near a proven safety record!! And yes this is NOT normal protocol!!!

For anyone inclined to give credence to this sort of nonsense, I recommend listening to How to Vaccinate the World presented by Tim Harford on Radio 4. It addresses this issue and is fascinating as produced pretty much contemporaneously with vaccine development
and roll out.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000py6s/episodes/guide

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Popitdontstopit · 06/09/2021 08:46

If it was an illness that predominantly killed children, how long would you wait for the vaccine before wanting it to be administered?

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Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:50

Yes, you have made your point clearly. It isn't me that has repeatedly tackled you on this as it goes.

I will take issue with the 75% figure when I can see the source of those stats and how Hannan (not an unbiased source ) is using them t make a political point.

stepupandbecounted · 06/09/2021 08:50

f it was an illness that predominantly killed children

But covid doesn't kill children, so it is null point.

noblegiraffe · 06/09/2021 08:51

You don’t know how clinical trials work, Step

noblegiraffe · 06/09/2021 08:51

But covid doesn't kill children

Lie.

Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:51

I think you may be the political one. I have two 'actual' children. I don't vaccinate them. A nurse does.

I have actually answered that question upthread.

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Piggywaspushed · 06/09/2021 08:52

My God, there are other people on this thread you know!!!

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