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Will you be angry if we end up back in lockdown?

768 replies

turnshavetabled · 27/08/2021 08:27

/ harsh restrictions?

I feel so tired of this all - but mostly tired of feeling lied to by the government. The false promises - 'irreversible' 'final lockdown until science / the vaccines can save the day'

And Scotland are already floating more restrictions, only a few weeks after reopening. It's gutting. I wish they would just tell us what the probably already know is likely to happen over the next few months.

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katienana · 27/08/2021 09:39

Can't go to stuff if its not open but I will not be isolating from family again. We also drove to the coast/countryside for walks in the winter lockdown and it was fine so I wouldn't think twice about that.

Kittyswhiskers · 27/08/2021 09:40

Yes I’ll be angry. Mostly I’m annoyed there’s so mucin crap spouted about the vaccine when largely the majority of adults who are sick in my hospital are unvaccinated. I’m a nurse and sick to death of it all now. If you’re going to make an educated choice about whether to have the vaccine stop watching ‘doctors’ on Facebook end listen to the many hundreds of scientists, doctors, virologists who give reputable info.

Eurghhhhhhh · 27/08/2021 09:41

I also won't comply. The cats out of the bag now and I don't believe it will make any different in terms of eventual risks to people. I refuse to not spend any time with my grandparents as who knows how long they have left. We would all rather take regular tests and meet up then them spend the rest of their remaining time lonely SadSad

Gothichouse40 · 27/08/2021 09:44

I have followed everything to the letter, but have had to sit and watch footballers and 'celebs' do what the hell they like. Lock them down, then you can lock me down. I won't be doing it again. The one rule for the moneyed / wealthy and then separate rules for us? I don't think so. I know people who could not be with their dying relatives, but the Euros gaily took place. It is not right.

Quartz2208 · 27/08/2021 09:47

Simply measures/restrictions that could work alongside normal life that actually dont make that much difference - no I wouldnt be angry about that.

A lockdown - yes because I dont see the point. It is clear that the Delta variant is incredibly difficult to control with a lockdown (see Australia and the NSW area that has been under a lockdown for nearly 2 months now and cases are still there and slowly rising) and lockdowns are designed to suppress and move it along in order to achieve something - what can we do though. What good would moving it along now be considering that harsh lockdown at the case level we are at wont be effective

TheLovelinessOfDemons · 27/08/2021 09:50

Not angry. Disappointed and sad. My birthday last year was so depressing. At least this year I took the DC and my DM to McDonald's, and 2 days later had a joint cake with DS 10 who's birthday's after mine, with friends at a picnic. DD nearly 14 doesn't feel ready for year 9 as she barely did any of year 7.

DancesWithTortoises · 27/08/2021 09:54

Very angry with the government.

But also angry with the fuckwits who didn't keep to the rules to safeguard others. And those who think they apply to everyone else.

So many deaths that may have been avoided.

RoundRainbow · 27/08/2021 09:57

I really hope not and tbh I won’t go without my family and friends again. Hospitalisations are still relatively low. However the hospital I work at is already on its knees, not due to covid, although it’s had a big impact on patient flow & staff sickness etc. Patients are sick and we have no beds for them, even if we had beds we wouldn’t have staff. We’ve had ‘winter’ pressures throughout for the last 4 years, no matter the time of year, with each winter being worse then the last. This summer feels even worse, staff shortages are already having an impact, we’re all taking on 2-3 ‘extra’ patients as we’re having the help cover other areas. I’m really anxious about what winter holds.

shouldistop · 27/08/2021 10:00

I won't comply with another lockdown

GoodnightGrandma · 27/08/2021 10:02

Expect the worst and hope for the best, what else can we do.
I’m still wearing a mask and social distancing, so I’m doing what I can.
Perhaps if people stuck with those small inconveniences we might do better.

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 27/08/2021 10:04

No.

Ridcully82 · 27/08/2021 10:04

Am I missing something?what's making people think another lockdown is in government planning? I've be working under the impression that they will run the NHS to just this side of overrun,and just crack on,as it's not like they've worried about flogging the NHS staff like an army mule in winters past. I can see that if local hospitals get overwhelmed there may be more local restrictions,but honestly can't see them going beyond that

stepupandbecounted · 27/08/2021 10:15

I wont be doing another lockdown.

GoodnightGrandma · 27/08/2021 10:19

I’m waiting for numbers to rise when the kids start testing again.
And then we’ll be offering the jab to the 12-15’s.

SMBH · 27/08/2021 10:28

I was angry about the first lockdown tbh

TheGuru87 · 27/08/2021 10:29

I find it strange that people feel the government doesn't know what's going to happen...

The charts right now show we are in trouble, with a clear upwards trend. Yet we are still allowing gatherings of thousands of people....

We are allowing our selves to get to a point of another lockdown and the government is doing nothing about it.

What I find most disturbing, is that schooling and education are being sacrificed for people to go to these events. Surely restrictions should be bought in now, to prioritise education and work...

Some restrictions now, will prevent another likely 3 month lockdown. The government could also get the nightingales up and running and operational. The government does not want to pay NHS staff x2 wages to staff it, but will hand out billions in furlough and grants.

Seems like some sort of class war is also going on in the mist of this.

Do we carry on like this forever?

52andblue · 27/08/2021 10:35

@Vaselike

Yes.

Angry at the government.

Angry at the vast numbers of people I’m seeing who don’t wear masks, crowd into small enclosed spaces, and generally act like they don’t give a shit that a couple of plane loads of people every week are dying every week from a disease that is, in part, by wearing masks and giving people space. I’m not talking about theatres and schools, I’m talking about not pushing into me waiting in an outside queue with no restricted space, or cramming into a kiosk, or choosing to sit next to me on the train rather than any of the other mostly empty seats and rows.

Fucking fuming at a government whose policy for children appears to be let them get it.

And worried about long covid; not especially for myself, but for a society that is going to be pretty grim if we have hundreds of thousands of chronically ill people.

That sums up how I feel too.

Yes, I will be angry.
So many opportunities to learn have been wasted.
I too am fitting in seeing friends where I can as I expect winter to be a mess, restrictions wise by Govts (I am in Scotland) who seem more interested in cementing covid power grabs than forward planning.

ExConstance · 27/08/2021 10:39

If they have another one I won't comply. I've found that since "freedom day " I've had less freedom as the social pressure is there to wear masks and social distance. Last week we discovered that in one Tesco we don't usually shop at virtually no one is wearing masks, I'll be off to do my shopping there this week. I'm much thinner and fitter than I was last year and double jabbed too, so if I am unfortunate enough to catch Covid I should not be too ill. We have no vulnerable people in our family so no worries there.

52andblue · 27/08/2021 10:40

@Silvercatowner

I don't think we're being deliberately misled. I don't think anyone in the government is bright enough to do that. I consider the decisions being made show a fundamental lack of understanding of how society works, and the value of scientific knowledge. This is underpinned by a huge dollop of selfishness and self serving behaviour.
I agree with this TOO!

(I do have opinions of my own, honest, but I'm tired this morning and could not improve on either of the above).

I am continuing to do: 'Hands, Face, Space' whatever the Govt says as it seems the responsible way to behave. I'm limiting travel and not attending large gatherings as it seems irresponsible to me at present. But I won't comply with not (very carefully) seeing family unless I am forced to as a lot of the people I love might die soon.

user1497207191 · 27/08/2021 10:40

@Ilikewinter

Would people comply with another lockdown though?, of course people cant to go those places that are shut but people will still mix with family and friends surely. Plus furlough is ending so would the government suddenly put that back into place?
Last October, they put furlough back in place at one day's notice. It was due to end on 31 October, but was restarted the day the November lockdown was announced!
SMBH · 27/08/2021 10:41

I don’t understand blaming people for breaking rules. This was always going to happen and is incorporated into the modelling and more compliance was seen than they expected anyway. So many people did observe the rules, and generously gave up significant parts of their lives, livelihoods and health, to buy the government more time to put structures in place such that lockdowns should not be required. Where is the gratitude for that? No, just more blame blame blame. And if you blame the public then you are letting the government off the hook.

BenjiMcSchmenzie · 27/08/2021 10:59

@SMBH

I don’t understand blaming people for breaking rules. This was always going to happen and is incorporated into the modelling and more compliance was seen than they expected anyway. So many people did observe the rules, and generously gave up significant parts of their lives, livelihoods and health, to buy the government more time to put structures in place such that lockdowns should not be required. Where is the gratitude for that? No, just more blame blame blame. And if you blame the public then you are letting the government off the hook.
Yes I agree with this
user1497207191 · 27/08/2021 11:03

@SMBH

I don’t understand blaming people for breaking rules. This was always going to happen and is incorporated into the modelling and more compliance was seen than they expected anyway. So many people did observe the rules, and generously gave up significant parts of their lives, livelihoods and health, to buy the government more time to put structures in place such that lockdowns should not be required. Where is the gratitude for that? No, just more blame blame blame. And if you blame the public then you are letting the government off the hook.
It is impossible for a government to put structures in place that will "prevent" any future lockdowns. Nothing can do that, however much time and money you throw at it.

It would take a decade or more to rebuild schools and hospitals to have perfect ventilation systems, more space, less crowded areas etc. We're not talking a couple of workmen with a toolkit, we're talking huge infrastructure work that would take months, if not years, to design, then you need planning permission, then what about the period when you can't teach/treat people because the existing building is being demolished. There's a finite limit to what you can do in a short time period.

Same with public transport. You can't just double the length of trains or double the number of buses on the roads. Again, it takes time, a lot of time. Trains take a few years to design and build, then another year or so for testing and staff training. If we are to increase numbers of buses, we need bigger bus stations, road improvements, etc., and double the number of buses means more congestion on the roads. Again, what about the double number of bus drivers we'd need.

A few months of a lockdown and a year or two of restrictions doesn't give anywhere near enough time to improve the infrastructure to be "safe enough" to prevent future lockdowns.

SpindleWhorl · 27/08/2021 11:08

Where I live the level of compliance with the initial lockdown was amazing. Deserted roads, quiet neighbourhoods, few visitors except for caring help, and respect for workers.

No-one gives a fuck any more.

As a psychological experiment over nearly 18 months, it's grimly fascinating.

TempsPerdu · 27/08/2021 11:10

Yes I’d be angry, and like many others if it did happen I’d continue to socialise with friends and family. I’d be especially furious if they closed schools again.

I think another full lockdown is fairly unlikely though - much more likely that we’ll see a reimposition of the mask mandate etc.