Will you be angry if we end up back in lockdown?

[turnshavetabled]

/ harsh restrictions?

I feel so tired of this all - but mostly tired of feeling lied to by the government. The false promises - 'irreversible' 'final lockdown until science / the vaccines can save the day'

And Scotland are already floating more restrictions, only a few weeks after reopening. It's gutting. I wish they would just tell us what the probably already know is likely to happen over the next few months.

@Delatron you also pop a lot and speak so much sense. Balances out the ' noisy data'.

Thank you!

Thanks @turnshavetabled you too.

I’ve been trying to stay out of these lockdown arguments but when the usual suspects rear their heads and post their usual crap I can’t resist!

I don't believe we will end up back in lockdown, however, for myself, I wouldn't care if we did. I would care for others, I know it has been very difficult for many people. As a retired person living alone it doesn't affect me personally.

And the lockdown works

Lockdown 1 - my mum died
Lockdown 2 - my dad died
Lockdown 3 - my aunt was hospitalised

But hey, as long as it worked for you and yours eh?

Well, the same few posters have been predicting various scenarios (for the last 6 months at least), including that we will be back in lockdown soon. Maybe at some point one of them will score a hit 🤷‍♀️

I'd be angry and won't stop seeing my mum this time around. I suspect compliance would be much lower if they did introduce another lockdown. Where would it end?

We. Are. Not. Going. Back. Into. Lockdown.

@trappedsincesundaymorn

And the lockdown works

Lockdown 1 - my mum died
Lockdown 2 - my dad died
Lockdown 3 - my aunt was hospitalised

But hey, as long as it worked for you and yours eh?

I don't understand the connection you're making.

But in Lockdown 1 my running buddy died of covid and my beloved Great Uncle caught covid in his care home.

In Lockdown 2 my sister in law had to give birth alone at home because no ambulance or paramedic could get to her fast enough.

And in lockdown 3 my great uncle caught covid for a second time, and after a few weeks in and out of hospital sadly died.

We've had other family tragedies during the last 20 months but they haven't always occurred during a lockdown.

Would you like to explain the point you're making so that I can understand?

[quote Delatron]@PrincessNutNuts by endemic it means it’s here to stay. You don’t seem to be able to accept that though.

The government have. Hence moving on to the ‘living with Covid’ stage.[/quote]
Well that explains the confusion.

It doesn't mean that.

[quote turnshavetabled]@PrincessNutNuts I am interested! I'd be angry if any restrictions returned and wanted to see if others felt the same.

What I'm not interested in is the same 3 posters dominating the board day after day after for 18 months with worst case scenarios. [/quote]
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm really not here very much.

I just seem to trigger a strong response in some posters.

They can fuck off

I don’t think there will be more lockdowns the govt is playing a balancing game of trying not to let people think for themselves and break the rules as the last thing the government wants is people who think for themselves. I believe that why we came out of restrictions when we did not because it was the right time but because the govt wants to keep people on their side.

PrincessNutNuts

Lockdown meant that restrictions were put on peoples grief. We weren't allowed to be together, my sister had to watch our mother's funeral via skype, we weren't allowed to hug my dad when mum died.
It was slightly better when dad died 7 months later but we were still frowned upon for daring to have a "wake" at his house after his funeral.
Lockdown made a shit situation much, much worse and nobody gave a fuck what we were going through as long as it didn't affect them. We were called "selfish" for just wanting to be able to grieve for our parents they way others had pre-covid, all for the "greater good". If you don't get that then you are as bad as the rest of the "suck it up, it's not that bad" brigade.

Angry ? no. Dissappointed and sad, yes. But I never thought the lifting of all restrictions was sustainable. The vaccines waning is very worrying. As others have said the Covid ICU is open again. I just hope they keep the schools open.

I am glad my teens have had some normal life this summer.

@PrincessNutNuts, you say ‘most governments have had far more success at protecting their people from the effects of Covid than the UK government ‘.

Firstly, that is not the case in many of our comparable neighbours in Europe, some yes, some not, they have similar case and death rates.

Secondly, we have suffered greater effects than some in the short term. I think the picture will shift in the medium and longer term, but that’s just my opinion. Those countries with very little acquired immunity from community spread now have a very big challenge to protect their health systems, which as others have said is a non-negotiable in any functioning society. Even with absolutely optimal vaccination rates, without naturally acquired community the case numbers may well threaten to overwhelm health services for a long time yet, which presumably means emergency lockdowns that will stretch on….with all the associated costs, mental, economic and so on.

For those saying it’s the government plan for our children all to get it, surely it is in our children’s best interests to start building their immunity to this now? They will have to live with Covid for the rest of their lives and IMO best to encounter it now while the risk to them is very very low. If you don’t agree with that, how propose they navigate their lives going forward? BTW I’m happy for my kids to have the vaccine for the greater good (even though they’ve already had Covid), I don’t think there’s much personal benefit to them but if it means fewer disruptions, then that’s fine.

If however, you believe that Covid is not endemic and we can somehow still swerve it as a planet, then that changes things, I guess.

@PrincessNutNuts

Endemic means ‘a disease that is always present’ look it up if you’re confused.

Why are we all engaging with her 🥱!

I don’t think we will go into lockdown again.

If we do, I’ll be gutted and I will hold my hands up and say I won’t stick to it. I’ll obviously not be able to go into shops etc and I won’t be seeing my parents because they’ll stick to the restrictions, but I’m seeing my friends.

I’ve worked throughout as a primary teacher and haven’t had a single day wfh. Fuck this whole thing, honestly, I’m over it, and I say that as someone who is more vulnerable to covid than the average person.

I get very frustrated at how blasé some people are when they talk about another lockdown. If we were to be considering one, we need to properly look at the pros and cons. The cons include the massive hit to the economy and the impact on many, many people's mental health. I am not alone in having massively struggled with lockdowns. I have very little family and being unable to see them for the best part of the year (they are not local) combined with everything which I find fun being stopped has caused enormous damage to my wellbeing. I will struggle to keep to another lockdown as each one has left me struggling to see the point in living. I've been hanging on to the hope that things will be back to something more like normal. I won't fully stick to a lockdown if we are told to do that again. Not going to the pub is pain. Not seeing family and friends is detrimental.

I don't give it a second thought.
Just go with the flow, your mental health will thank you for it.

To be fair, ibwont stick to not seeing my parents. I spent most of last year not seeing my parents. Even when we could 'bubble'. Mum was shielding and dad worked frontline NHS, but mum refused to leave my dad and stay here, which I understood.

I stood on their drive the morning after after the first lock down was announced, dropping off supplies until they got a delivery. I left their stuff at the top of the drive. But I watched them taking it in, burning it into my memory as I felt there was a good chance I may not see either of them again. I didn't see them in person for months and didn't hug my mum for over a year. Me and dad saw each other when restrictions lifted last year by doing our shopping at the same time and staying 2 meter apart, on occasion. It broke my heart to see him but not hug him.

Dad has retired. I won't be staying away from them again. I will be careful due to mum's health. But I absolutely won't not see them again. They are older (late 60s) I don't know how long I have left with them. Especially as mum is in bad health.

My kids found not seeing them very hard. I won't do it again.

I think that people STILL don't understand what a virus is. Which is pretty stupid after the last 18 months and ALL the really competent information there is out there.. and I am not talking about the government.

The government makes POLITICAL decisions based on advice from experts. Sometimes they adhere to that advice and sometimes they don't. The dangerous thing is that those decisions are POLITICALLY motivated to play to this populist governments agenda.

I do not need a government to tell me to restrict my movements. I am a grown adult female with full mental capacity - with access to research from bodies such as Imperial College - who DO know what they are talking about .
So in essence . If the science says restricted life is necessary then because I'm not an ignorant imbecile. I will do it. If the science doesn't say so . Then I won't.
Personally I think the Govt are too self obsessed with image to lockdown again even if the writing is on the wall - and I am not stupid enough to follow their attempts at vote collection at the expense of my health . So will isolate myself if required .

Not angry but sad especially for bussiness who just pulled through the last one. I won't stop seeing people though and think many would do the same. I cant see it happening though unless things go really wrong and even if it does..it wouldn't be like before

@QueenofKattegat

Yes and, like the above poster, I will not comply.

Before anybody starts, yes of course I can't go to the pub/hairdresser/whatever if they are closed but I won't stay away from friends and family for one second.

Same as above.