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If you haven't been vaccinated (out of choice)

168 replies

Buzzinwithbez · 15/08/2021 19:30

How 'safe' do you feel?

Are you minimising your potential risk of covid?

How different is your life now than in typical years to 2019?

I think I'm mainly curious about whether people's life is different anyway after the last 18 months....
I know mine is. I went shopping yesterday and struggled with the lighting, the lack of available seating etc ... And I'm unlikely to be keen for a repeat experience for a while, so the way I spend my time is likely to be a lot different anyway, without even taking covid itself into consideration...

Are differences because things are slow to start up? because you've formed new habits anyway? Out of not wanting to contract covid/have to isolate/anything else.

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Arsebucket · 16/08/2021 09:31

@Aposterhasnoname piss off.

I’m back at the hospital in AEC. Are you saying i’m lying? I’m fucking terrified.

FflosFfantastig · 16/08/2021 09:35

I feel quite safe really. I have a child in school so odds are they will bring it home at some point. I have had it previously, but obviously it's pretty inconvenient so on that basis I'm not looking forward to it again.

I am minimising risk as much as I can do. Sanitising, masks etc (in Wales). I am not clubbing / partying age anyway so I don't do big gatherings.

Life isn't all that different. The things I am into are camping and long distance walking, cycling so all outdoor stuff. I have always done online shopping as I can't manage crowded places and don't like shops. I have autism and for me personally, it's part of that. I lost one of my part time jobs as a direct result of Covid so that's the main difference. A financial difference and also it was a job that I really enjoyed.

ShimmyYay · 16/08/2021 12:26

Since the begging of the pandemic I took no specific precautions and continued to work from the office , I do not wish to take the vaccine and wish to rely on my immune system as I do with all other infections and viruses. However it appears that the governments agenda is to when everyone vaccinated therefore they are now demonising those who do not wish to take the vaccine which I find pretty frightening. People are missing the point all the vaccine may do for you is minimise the effect of COVID it does not stop you from getting it or spreading it. How are people missing this vital point? If I don’t have the vaccine it is myself that I’m “putting at risk” and no body else.

lljkk · 16/08/2021 12:29

I feel unsafe because there are many always-changing rules to remember, so much extra bureaucracy in doing many things, many people are angry about other people's choices, so many stupid arguments, and many legal precedents established by the virus-controls that scare me. Inflation will soar and this will harm our household. Day to day I feel safe enough but I have pessimism about the future.

I don't feel safe because I'm vaccinated. Confused

I feel safe enough about being ill with covid because covid almost always mild in people like me.

My Vaccination was just so I can travel internationally a bit more easily if my elderly parents (live far away) need me.

ilovesooty · 16/08/2021 12:35

My understanding is that the doubly vaccinated are less of a transmission risk. You'd have to be pretty stupid to think it was a guarantee that you couldn't get it or transmit it at all and therefore you didn't have to take mitigating measures. However the fact that the vast majority have taken up the vaccine surely has to be beneficial in fighting the pandemic and making it more manageable.

CrunchyCarrot · 16/08/2021 12:53

@Arsebucket Flowers So sorry you're going through this, hope you get some resolution to it very soon.

sleepwouldbenice · 16/08/2021 13:22

@ShimmyYay

Since the begging of the pandemic I took no specific precautions and continued to work from the office , I do not wish to take the vaccine and wish to rely on my immune system as I do with all other infections and viruses. However it appears that the governments agenda is to when everyone vaccinated therefore they are now demonising those who do not wish to take the vaccine which I find pretty frightening. People are missing the point all the vaccine may do for you is minimise the effect of COVID it does not stop you from getting it or spreading it. How are people missing this vital point? If I don’t have the vaccine it is myself that I’m “putting at risk” and no body else.
Hi do you miss the vital point that it doesn't stop you from getting or spreading it but it does reduce both stats Jesus Good luck with your immune system
Xenia · 16/08/2021 13:36

The vaccinated can get it and spread it. My child's spouse (double vaxxed) had it recently worse than the spouse who was not vaccinated - although I don't dispute the science that double vaccination in many means you get it worse.

I have chosen not to have it in part because I have worked from home since 1994 and don't socialise really. I have certainly never said never however and might have the vax next year. We shall see.

Arsebucket · 16/08/2021 13:36

[quote CrunchyCarrot]@Arsebucket Flowers So sorry you're going through this, hope you get some resolution to it very soon.[/quote]
Thank you. It’s been a long day, again. But the AEC ward is a lot more comfortable than A&E. Had a CT scan, waiting on the consultant. I’ve been given some amazing pain killers that are actually touching it.

I’m one of four women in their 40s with suspected clots in here today.

Boris can stick my second vaccine up his arse sideways.

Arsebucket · 16/08/2021 13:37

(Suspected clots from AZ. People talk to each other incase I get accused of eavesdropping).

Tootsey11 · 16/08/2021 13:55

Being double vaccinated does not stop you spreading it. And the rate at which you spread it is the same as an unvaccinated person. This coming from PHE.

Cookerhood · 16/08/2021 13:56

@Tootsey11

Being double vaccinated does not stop you spreading it. And the rate at which you spread it is the same as an unvaccinated person. This coming from PHE.
Yes, but you are much less likely to get it in the first place, so fewer people to spread it.
Cookerhood · 16/08/2021 13:59

How unfortunate that so many with suspected AZ clots are all in one hospital, when there are so few in the whole country. Let's hope it turns out not to be the case.

Arsebucket · 16/08/2021 14:05

@Cookerhood

How unfortunate that so many with suspected AZ clots are all in one hospital, when there are so few in the whole country. Let's hope it turns out not to be the case.
Yes let’s hope they are just headaches. But they have to check everyone out. Which is a good thing.
Givemebackmylilo · 16/08/2021 14:08

Not vaccinated.
Not worried.
Nothing has changed for me.

Parker231 · 16/08/2021 14:36

www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/07/anatomy-of-a-vaccine-breakthrough/619562/

Good news - the vaccine is doing what it is meant to.

Spent my last morning as a volunteer vaccinator. There is less need now for the mass vaccination centres as so many have had both vaccinations. Most centres are now concentrating on the 16-17 year olds before they go back to school. Have met some lovely people- it was a very positive experience.

ilovesooty · 16/08/2021 16:53

@Cookerhood

How unfortunate that so many with suspected AZ clots are all in one hospital, when there are so few in the whole country. Let's hope it turns out not to be the case.
I often think that when I see so many unvaccinated by choice on here. The proportion seems higher than that of the general population, given the percentage stated to be vaccinated.
kowari · 16/08/2021 17:44

I often think that when I see so many unvaccinated by choice on here. The proportion seems higher than that of the general population, given the percentage stated to be vaccinated.
This is a recent BBC article and the percentage stated to have received a first dose suggests it isn't unusual at all to be under 40 and unvaccinated against covid.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

If you haven't been vaccinated (out of choice)
ilovesooty · 16/08/2021 17:51

An interesting article, thank you. It does indicate that 90% of the adult population of the UK has received at least one vaccine. The wilfully unvaccinated seem to comprise more than 10% of posters, but perhaps that's just my impression.

kowari · 16/08/2021 17:53

I don't think mumsnet is representative of the general adult population. I think we would have far fewer over 70s than in the general population for example.

Parker231 · 16/08/2021 17:53

@ilovesooty - in rl across friends, family and colleagues, the majority have had both vaccinations with just some of my younger colleagues waiting for their second. I don’t know anyone not wanting the vaccinations.

ilovesooty · 16/08/2021 17:58

[quote Parker231]@ilovesooty - in rl across friends, family and colleagues, the majority have had both vaccinations with just some of my younger colleagues waiting for their second. I don’t know anyone not wanting the vaccinations.[/quote]
I know very few people not wanting to be vaccinated either.

ilovesooty · 16/08/2021 17:58

@kowari

I don't think mumsnet is representative of the general adult population. I think we would have far fewer over 70s than in the general population for example.
True.
sleepwouldbenice · 16/08/2021 18:02

This x100%
I am so sick of the same crap being spouted about vaccines as though they don't have an impact on spread of covid
I support the right to choose but stop trying to falsely validate your choice and own it

FreshApricot · 16/08/2021 18:29

Wow, reading the replies here I am very glad that vaccine programmes are designed based on strong clinical evidence, and not on "how safe you personally feel".