How can it possibly be a good idea to NOT isolate if a household member tests positive?

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As the new rules will allow?

I think it's absolute madness.

We've all had positives over the last three weeks and even though we are all double jabbed, the illness is really, really nasty.

We all tested positive about 5
Days apart, like bloody dominos.

I just can't believe what destruction we would have unleashed had we not had to isolate.

I agree op.

Dp is back in the office soon and dds back to secondary school. I'll be in my third trimester. Although double jabbed the thought of catching it late in pregnancy scares me. I hate the thought that they could be mixing closely with people who have a member at home with it.

All sounds bit dramatic OP.

I had covid, had a wicked sore throat and slept a lot. That was it, I still wfh throughout. Honestly, I've had worse colds. In fact my post vaccine side effects were a gazillion times worse, with a 40c temp, shivers, sweats the whole nine yards.

I expect for most people covid isnt little worse than a cold. We cant stop life forever and isolate over and over again just because someone has a cold.

Bet all the people saying it’s mild, we have to open and and get back to ‘normal’ etc etc havent had it

It’s really knocks you out, for days, worse than flu, you can be left with long Covid, which really isn’t good

But hey you crack on, hope you get it

I agree with you OP. I hope I am proved wrong, I am not even expected to do LFT for work anymore. I will be though regardless.

I have been pretty pragmatic through all this, but this isn't living with covid, this is head burying. It is the first time I have been really concerned.

I agree with you OP. It seems really reckless and selfish to me. If one of my household contracts it we'll all stay in out of consideration for others, not because of the law.

I'm sure if you rang your work and said 'My husband has COVID, would you like me in regardless?' The answer would be No, stay the $&?! at home please.

@Chloemol ‘hope you get it’

What a horrible thing to say.

@Chloemol

Bet all the people saying it’s mild, we have to open and and get back to ‘normal’ etc etc havent had it

It’s really knocks you out, for days, worse than flu, you can be left with long Covid, which really isn’t good

But hey you crack on, hope you get it

No. The vast majority of people including myself have had it and it's mild

[quote SmidgenofaPigeon]@Chloemol ‘hope you get it’

What a horrible thing to say.[/quote]
But according to them it's just a cold so they'll be fine.
Advice is to still be cautious and we are not out of it yet.

But many people on here are just saying they are acting completely as normal and simply don't give a damn if they pass it on. So they are wishing it on others. Can't see the difference really

I'm sure if you rang your work and said 'My husband has COVID, would you like me in regardless?' The answer would be No, stay the $&?! at home please.

I'd be told to get my arse in.

[quote SmidgenofaPigeon]@Chloemol ‘hope you get it’

What a horrible thing to say.[/quote]
Although the comment is not very nice, I can understand the sentiment. Most will be fine, but not all. People down playing the effect must really annoy people who had been affected badly. I wonder why can't people see that, it's very insensitive, similar degree to her saying "hope you get it." ?

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Think it would be sensible for households to still isolate, but other close contacts eg sitting near to someone in a pub, work not isolate but regularly test instead

Not read the whole thread but I completely agree with this - I cannot understand why the govt is treating all 'close contact' as equal and removing the need to isolate in one go. Surely far more rational to end isolation for all close contacts except those in the same household, as the latter are far more likely to catch & spread infection than general contacts. My dd is vulnerable and too young to be vaccinated - but I am expected to send her and her siblings to school in Sept when they could be in an enclosed space with other children whose parents/siblings etc are at home with Covid. Seems ridiculous, short sighted and very unfair.

We cant stop life forever and isolate over and over again just because someone has a cold

But isolating a household with covid is very unlikely to happen over and over again the same way contact isolations happen.

Agree with other posters; this isn’t living with covid, this is ignoring it and is reckless. There is a safer compromise by getting rid of contact isolations for the vaccinated and

I'm sure if you rang your work and said 'My husband has COVID, would you like me in regardless?' The answer would be No, stay the $&?! at home please

Hmmm, then who would teach my class?!

DH had it last month and I never caught it.
10 days self isolating, unable to work (keyworker) tested every day and still housebound. It's not viable tonhavebself isolation as we move into the endemic stage IMO.

I agree OP. I’m currently in bed and also “floored” with covid. So much so I thought I was going to die yesterday and I’m healthy, in my 30s. Impossible to isolate away from family, I caught it from my husband.

We all have covid at the moment, adults double vaccinated. It hasn't floored us. The boredom of isolation is more of a challenge than the illness.

If I hadn't of tested positive after DH I would have been careful as in still taken the dog for a walk, kids to the park etc but not seen elderly parents or been in close contact with anyone.

But that's why household contacts take a PCR, and if negative, can continue as normal.

@Chosennone but there is absolutely no need to remove all close contact isolation in one go. It would make far more sense to do this in stages - assessing the impact of removing general close contact isolation first before allowing household contacts not to isolate.

After a recent UK holiday I have realised that if one person doesnt wear a mask in my house its pointless me doing so as well. If I'm careful but teens aren't or dh isnt I'm going to catch it dispite 1) being double vaxxed 2) had covid this year already

Same applies to those living with covid positive people. Some will try to minimise spread and some wont.

I wear my mask in a shop still but just to be polite. I'm definitely going to get it again 100% sure of that and so will everyone eventually. You cant escape it if you want to anymore.

On a personal level I'm scared for my family but not myself as it didn't kill me or floor me or even make me feel bad the first time. Its unlikely to kill me the second time.

So yep it's a fact of life now. There is no ideal one size fits all solution. Hopefully stats will show in time that vaccines stops covid from deaths to a significant percentage

Sorry that was meant to quote @illuyankas

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No its not compulsory to wear face coverings on buses in our area (Greater Manchester) and I think England in general- Guidance is only "recommended" from the government. Scotland it is compulsory. As I think it is in Wales and NI (but not sure). From my experience this week on 6 different buses, which were busy, 75% of passengers had stopped wearing them. And people were coughing and sneezin.

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I agree OP.

If I lived with someone who tested positive I’d still isolate to keep people safe. It’s the sensible thing to do.

Lots of people won’t be sensible though, so we’ll be in this cycle for much longer than we need to be.

I don’t know anyone who has had mild delta symptoms. I know two people in their 30s who have died, no health issues. My DS is 2 and needed hospital treatment. DH and I were floored. Both double vaxxed.

I agree we have to get back to some level of normality but nothing wrong with common sense.

I think the issue is you are still in the mindset of suppressing the virus, that that is the aim and the goal.

It’s not. From Monday there are no mandatory mechanisms by which the government is trying to suppress the virus. The virus will now move through the population much like the common cold, or norovirus. You may avoid an elderly or vulnerable relative or hospital visiting if you had noro in the household, but you’d still go to work if your husband had it.

Once you realise we are no longer trying to suppress numbers of the virus, you can see how it all makes sense.

I'm sorry that your entire family has been floored by it. That does seem bad luck really and just shows how random the severity of the illness seems to be. My husband was pretty ill with it too, but I, like many posters on here, have had worse colds. I've also never had an illness as bad as the flu people describe on here (the "you can't get out of bed if it's flu" myth.) My young adult sons had no symptoms at all. My friend in her 60s was ill for a week or so but her technically much more vulnerable 77 year old husband was completely asymptomatic despite a positive test. Most people I know have had illnesses ranging from mine (a few days feeling under the weather) to a couple of weeks feeling really rough. It's quite annoying to be told that if you think it's a mild illness, you haven't had it. For some people it is mild.

If I lived with someone who tested positive I’d still isolate to keep people safe. It’s the sensible thing to do.Lots of people won’t be sensible though, so we’ll be in this cycle for much longer than we need to be

It’s not really about being sensible, it about having to do what your boss tells you to do.

If my DH/DC tests positive, my boss will still expect me in to teach my class of children. The windows don’t open, the room is small, the children are young and don’t socially distance. The parents of those children will no doubt not be told of the positive case either so can’t make an informed decision. I am a sensible person, but I wouldn’t have the option to make a sensible decision here.