How can it possibly be a good idea to NOT isolate if a household member tests positive?

[DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo]

As the new rules will allow?

I think it's absolute madness.

We've all had positives over the last three weeks and even though we are all double jabbed, the illness is really, really nasty.

We all tested positive about 5
Days apart, like bloody dominos.

I just can't believe what destruction we would have unleashed had we not had to isolate.

Think it would be sensible for households to still isolate, but other close contacts eg sitting near to someone in a pub, work not isolate but regularly test instead

If it goes through a household, like it seems more likely to do with Delta, jab or no jab, then it would be one period of isolation as getting it twice is quite rare

@CordeliasPencil

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Ohh look who's being 'patronising' now hey.

I had Covid before vaccinations were available. Norovirus and "bog standard" flu were worse.

D'you take the same precautions with every illness that could potentially kill someone, or just Covid?

@DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo We don't isolate the whole household for the flu, cold, chicken pox, norvirus or countless other illnesses. The whole point of the vaccines was that Covid would become an illness that the vast majority of the population could recover from without hospitalisation.
You may have been 'floored' but you have recovered and that is what is expected of learning to live with it. You could equally have been floored with the flu.
I am surprised that so many people have not grasped this yet. Yes you may still contract it and yes it may make you feel bloody awful for a while but your risk of severe illness and death is tiny compare dto what it was a year ago.
Are you really suggesting that we all spend the rest of our lives isolating for 10 days, missing work, school, LIFE becuase someone in the house is unwell? If so why no do the same for every ilness as there are always some people that will be very ill or die from a realatively minor illness. Many people get post viral fatigue from other illness. How do you propose that people actually live, pay their bills and get an education if you expect us all to be forever locked up when someone is ill.

@MilkTwoSugarsThanks

I had Covid before vaccinations were available. Norovirus and "bog standard" flu were worse.

D'you take the same precautions with every illness that could potentially kill someone, or just Covid?

I can answer with certainty that people don't. Since any d&v (not even noro) could kill me. But people do not care if the illness couldn't affect them.

It's madness.

I had a positive LFT on the 11th. PCR 12th, positive result yesterday

Dh and ds both tested negative on 11th. Both got negative PCR.

DH got a positive LFT this morning.

So he could have gone out / to work yesterday even though he was obviously breeding it!

I agree with you OP

Even if it's likely to only affect someone mildly, you can't know for sure, and I'm nervous about my DC getting I'll after a friend's child was hospitalised with it.

My employer requires me to have a negative PCR and then I'll be allowed back, but I then have to do LFTs for seven days and report negative every day before work. So if I have cclose ontact with a positive case, yes I'll have to work, but I won't be meeting up with friends and family. If I'm out, say on bus to work, I'll try and distance from others and wear a mask. Just have to hope many will do this and it's enough.

If you'd have had it, I'm not sure you'd be so blasé.

I have had it. Before vaccine. And I have had worse colds. It is mild for most people even before the vaccines.

If someone had norovirus in our house, I would be limiting our social contacts where possible and I certainly wouldn’t be visiting elderly/vulnerable relatives. Now WFH is more of a thing I would probably try and do that if we had contagious illness in the house even if I wasn’t the one who was ill

@rainbowunicorn

We bloody should isolate people if their family has novovirus etc - would you say 'yes' to friends coming round in that situation?

@ifonly4

My employer requires me to have a negative PCR and then I'll be allowed back, but I then have to do LFTs for seven days and report negative every day before work. So if I have cclose ontact with a positive case, yes I'll have to work, but I won't be meeting up with friends and family. If I'm out, say on bus to work, I'll try and distance from others and wear a mask. Just have to hope many will do this and it's enough.

I’m not sure daily lateral flow tests will be made available like that. I know there are plans to stop the regular screening lateral flows for schools and staff. I think it’ll just be back to normal.

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@DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo

I am double vaccinated, as are my family.

We have all contracted Covid and it has floored us.

If you'd have had it, I'm not sure you'd be so blasé.

Allowing people free reign to spread the virus when they LIVE with someone positive is just irresponsible.

Being "floored" by Covid despite being double-jabbed is pretty rare. Besides you can be floored by flu as well and we've never isolated for that. Time to get in with life.

I'm starting to think that full isolation for everyone in the house is a bit too extreme.

My son caught it. He was terribly unwell for 36 hours and I was understandably worried, and on top of that worried I would catch it too.

It was unbelievable that on top of that I couldn't go for a bike ride along my (very quiet country) road or walk the dog despite those being extremely low risk activities.

Turns out I didn't catch it from him anyway, vaccination must be working, so we only had to endure the 10 days.

I would say, for those in a Covid positive household who have not yet caught it themselves, a basic sensible regime of keeping your distance, avoiding crowds, avoiding restaurants and other indoor locations like shops etc should be sufficient.

@Warhertisuff

Define rare?

I'm of course very glad to not be in hospital, but I know more that a handful of vaccinated
People Who've been quite ill for more than a couple of weeks.

I agree OP, especially if people who are vaccinated can still get sick and scan still transmit. I am dreading the autumn. I think schools, in particular, are going to be a mess and the increase in child hospitalisations happening in the states is particularly worrying. I’ve worked as a key worker throughout this but I have now invested in N95/FPP2 masks for us all. Not sure what else we can do.

would say, for those in a Covid positive household who have not yet caught it themselves, a basic sensible regime of keeping your distance, avoiding crowds, avoiding restaurants and other indoor locations like shops etc should be sufficient

Numerous small sweaty classrooms should be just fine though

If flu is going to be as bad as they think it might be this winter, we might find households may have to isolate if someone had flu

@GNCQ

I'm starting to think that full isolation for everyone in the house is a bit too extreme.

My son caught it. He was terribly unwell for 36 hours and I was understandably worried, and on top of that worried I would catch it too.

It was unbelievable that on top of that I couldn't go for a bike ride along my (very quiet country) road or walk the dog despite those being extremely low risk activities.

Turns out I didn't catch it from him anyway, vaccination must be working, so we only had to endure the 10 days.

I would say, for those in a Covid positive household who have not yet caught it themselves, a basic sensible regime of keeping your distance, avoiding crowds, avoiding restaurants and other indoor locations like shops etc should be sufficient.

Thing is avoiding crowded places etc is what sensible people will do.... clearly lots of people are not sensible. And schools are crowded, indoor places. Say my dad has it, how the hell is it sensible for me to go to work in a primary school, send my dd to a different primary school, 2 other dc to a high school in different year groups, and older dd to work in a restaurant?

It's herd immunity by the back door.

Dad should read ds

@DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo I wouldn't have people round no. KI would however still work, go to the shop etc. Are you seriously saying that you would isolate entire hosueholds when someone was ill?
If you are then maybe you have some suggestions about how people pay their bills, keep their jobs and get an education for their children. It is all very well frothing on here about people being allowed out but if you feel so stronly about it where is your plan for all of the above. How do you see it actually working for say the following 4 illnesses. Covid, Noro, Flu and cold. How do you implement isolation for household contacts in all of those illnesses while enabling people to live decent lives?
We are exactly where we need to be in terms of isolation. This is what was envisaged all along. I am just surprised that some people are shocked by it. DId you really think where we are now would be life for evermore, if not what did you expect to happen?

We can't afford it anymore. Simple as that.

The original idea was to protect the nhs

Yes it might put you in bed for a week but the nhs is coping.

It's that simple. May not seem fair but it's what it is.