How can it possibly be a good idea to NOT isolate if a household member tests positive?

[DontDrinkDontSmokeWhatDoIDo]

As the new rules will allow?

I think it's absolute madness.

We've all had positives over the last three weeks and even though we are all double jabbed, the illness is really, really nasty.

We all tested positive about 5
Days apart, like bloody dominos.

I just can't believe what destruction we would have unleashed had we not had to isolate.

Covid is a minor illness for most people (including me). There are risks in life (including other illnesses) and I think it’s time to move on.

Because household transmission is actually really quite low and the evidence for asymptomatic transmission is weak. Obvs if you develop symptoms then isolate. Isolation of the healthy is ridiculous.

I don’t understand why there isn’t household isolation in the case of a positive remaining. This is going to be fun when the schools go back…

We will likely isolate if/when one of us tests positive but that’s because our work allows. I’ve recently changed jobs but my previous one wouldn’t have accepted or supported my decision to isolate in the case of a positive household member, I know that for a fact. They didn’t even support it back last year when the advice was for households to isolate based on symptoms and pressured people into work (back office NHS for anyone interested). And yes, there were outbreaks affecting services unsurprisingly.

Any workplaces still paying you to isolate from next week?

I don't understand it either. Doesn't make sense to me. Can't grasp the logic.

Some workplaces have NEVER paid people to isolate. Some people forget that.

@changingstages

Some people do.... just like some people will continue being sensible.
I've lost count of the number of times kids have said to me 'I was sick last night.'

maybe your family don't react well to even mild illnesses. Hence your 'floored' comment

Wtf? Seriously? You’ve watched news reports this last year? You’ve seen previously healthy people in hospital for months on end?

‘Mild’ for covid has included needing medical intervention. The seriousness of covid has depended on viral load, not ‘how your family reacts to mild illness’.

I am all for getting on with life, but trying to put the blame on genetics of someone you’ve never met is very low. And very stupid. I am as healthy as they come, never needed a hospital except when giving birth, in my 50s without any regular medication. I had a mild case of covid, whilst double vaxxed, that floored me for 2 weeks. Much like everyone else I know who’s had it.

@gardeninggirl68

Any workplaces still paying you to isolate from next week?

I wonder what the set up is for those who aren’t vaccinated? The changes seem to have skipped over that.

Are we about to see a lot of outrage at being asked to declare you vaccine status to your employer?

@Getawaywithit

maybe your family don't react well to even mild illnesses. Hence your 'floored' comment

Wtf? Seriously? You’ve watched news reports this last year? You’ve seen previously healthy people in hospital for months on end?

‘Mild’ for covid has included needing medical intervention. The seriousness of covid has depended on viral load, not ‘how your family reacts to mild illness’.

I am all for getting on with life, but trying to put the blame on genetics of someone you’ve never met is very low. And very stupid. I am as healthy as they come, never needed a hospital except when giving birth, in my 50s without any regular medication. I had a mild case of covid, whilst double vaxxed, that floored me for 2 weeks. Much like everyone else I know who’s had it.

Plenty of people here and in RL are saying it's mild or they didn't even know they had it

As said from the beginning, mild for most people! Most are now vaccinated

It's time to move on, people are still clinging to it, it's time to get on with life fgs!

@someusernameorother

Because household transmission is actually really quite low and the evidence for asymptomatic transmission is weak. Obvs if you develop symptoms then isolate. Isolation of the healthy is ridiculous.

@someusernameorother

Household transmission with Delta is pretty high... Given how transmissible it is it would be weird for this not to be the case.

It doesn't change the fact that we can't hide from Covid forever, given that we're highly unlikely to eradicate it totally with vaccines... so we have to live with it. I've been "floored"
with colds and flus at various times in my life. Unless you're one of those lucky people who hasn't had so much as a sniffle since 1983, then we all have. We didn't expect families to self isolate for ten days then, and we shouldn't now.

I think a lot of rules are to do with politics rather than science. So you have a choice, to use common sense, or do whatever gov say and justify yourself you are doing right thing by following the law. The consequence only makes difference to you, as an individual.

@Redlocks28

What’s the betting that GP’s/hospital appointments/dentists etc won’t allow you to keep your f2f appointment if someone in your household tests positive, though!

Given that our hospital still won’t be letting household contacts work and will be insisting on daily LFTs and alternate day PCRs for non-household close contacts that aren’t self-isolating I can’t imagine they’ll be happy.

I doubt there’s much they can do about the patients though other than ask them to show common sense & courtesy. I suspect this might not be much of an issue once hospital outbreaks get big enough and there are enough staff off with Covid to necessitate cancelling loads of stuff though.

We don't isolate for flu or noro, which can be a very serious illness too. We stay away from the infected person, and stay off work if we become ill. We need to learn to live with covid!

* I had a mild case of covid, whilst double vaxxed, that floored me for 2 weeks. Much like everyone else I know who’s had it.*

2 weeks of feeling really poorly
Ah home presumably
And then now all ok

Similar to flu.

This debate is just to out of odds with how I’m living my life

Completely normally !!

@Marmitemarinaded

This debate is just to out of odds with how I’m living my life

Completely normally !!

Normal apart from frequenting the covid topic on MN…

Not similar to flu actually. Noro tends to kill the elderly vulnerable, covid not necessarily.

@HalloHello

We don't isolate for flu or noro, which can be a very serious illness too. We stay away from the infected person, and stay off work if we become ill. We need to learn to live with covid!

Funny that you say we stay away from infected person, it's a common knowledge that unlike normal flu, people can be asymptomatic but still transmit if you have covid. So, you agree that we should treat covid different from normal flu?

@HalloHello

We don't isolate for flu or noro, which can be a very serious illness too. We stay away from the infected person, and stay off work if we become ill. We need to learn to live with covid!

But we do isolate for noro? And yes, I know, there's always some parents who ignore the 48 hour rule etc etc but the fact remains that public health guidance for noro is to isolate for 48 hours.

Covid probably would kill elderly vulnerable - hence why they were told to isolate in the beginning.

You’re over reacting OP. 1 of our household has Covid, the other 5 of us have not caught it. The 1 who has it has had 1 jab and has very mild symptoms.

Everyone reacts differently to the virus - as with any virus. If the non isolation fir double jabbed had been in earlier, I wouldn’t have had to isolate .. I would have gone out for essentials in a safe manner, not wandered aimlessly spreading possible germs everywhere as your dramatic posts seem to imply.

Also, your bus scenario is silly - isn’t it still compulsory to wear masks on public transport?

Ah no, wait, sorry - you are right, it's just the infected person who isolates! I was getting very confused about that...

Also, your bus scenario is silly - isn’t it still compulsory to wear masks on public transport?

No. It’s never been universally compulsory anyway, but now a private company (including bus company) can request it but they have very little power to enforce it.

Just googled, it ended 19 July as it did in most places - however almost everyone still wears one in shops, doctors, hospitals, cafes, and public transport.