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I went and had a vaccine this morning

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Arsebucket · 07/08/2021 11:13

I didn’t want one, but I need to go back to work after 2 years, after a house move and a baby , hundreds of job applications for anything and everything and not even one interview.

I’m a dementia care specialist, I could walk into a job in care tomorrow. So I just had to have it.

I’m 41, had AZ.

And i’m getting very drunk tonight, I don’t care if it’s a bad idea.

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Magicpaintbrush · 07/08/2021 13:34

You've done a good thing by having the vaccine. And everyone I know irl who has had AZ has barely noticed any side effects. I had AZ and after the first jab I had a bit of an achy arm after 12 hours, nothing else, then after the second jab not a single side effect, not even an ache, I actually forgot I'd had it and got on with my week. I have noticed my periods are a bit less reliable since having it, that is a slight concern, but in myself I feel totally normal.

ifonly4 · 07/08/2021 13:42

Glad you've had the vaccine for your own protection if nothing else.

DH and myself both had AZ. DH woke up with flu like symptoms, about 14 hours after vaccine. I had chills and felt a bit sick between 6-12 hours after - funnily enough though I fancied frozen pizza and oven chips which I easily eat, but wouldn't have fancied a drink (and I like wine).

AngryWhompingWillow · 07/08/2021 13:42

@Arsebucket Glad you have had the vaccine. Sorry you felt bullied/forced into it, but this is how things are going now. I feel you will definitely benefit from it though. Smile

I know around half a dozen people who live and work in the UK, who are originally from south east Asia, and Southern Europe, and the middle east - and their extended family still live in the country they came from. They didn't want to have the vaccine, in fact they refused it, until they discovered it will affect their ability to travel back home to see their family.

So as has been said a number of times on here, people are free to not have the vaccine, but they have to accept the pitfalls/negatives of not having it. ie, how restricted their lives will be......

knittingaddict · 07/08/2021 13:53

@1forAll74

Why are you in tears, that seems a bit odd. Usually you have the jab, and feel very fatigued the next day, then get on with things. In my case it was digging in the garden. I am an oldie. and don't like to sit around worrying about the vaccine.
I had the first vaccine in my non dominant arm so that I could carry on painting the woodwork in our house. I was up a ladder painting the same weekend as I had the injection.
Arsebucket · 07/08/2021 14:07

I had the first vaccine in my non dominant arm so that I could carry on painting the woodwork in our house. I was up a ladder painting the same weekend as I had the injection.

I had it in my dominant arm.

Only because I carry the baby with my left arm, and sleep on that side as she’s in a co sleeper cot next to me.

Might regret that if I do get a sore arm!

Dh reminded me that I am always complaining my left arm feels dead after carrying dd (she’s a heafty little thing!), so maybe I’d have been better off having it that side.

Currently making lasagne. And an apple pie. I haven’t eaten carbs or sugar in 18 weeks either, so expecting a foggy head from the sheer amount of pasta I’m going to consume.

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CurlyhairedAssassin · 07/08/2021 14:20

I sympathise, OP. I had the AZ in February before any hooha about side effects (or clots - the reason I got the AZ early was because I'd had a clot a couple of years ago Hmm). I was very grateful to get it but I had an extremely unpleasant reaction and I have put off having my second dose. Doesn't seem to be any option to have the Pfizer this time instead either, so now I'm between a rock and a hard place if people are only going to be allowed to do certain things if they've been double-jabbed.

I had been too blase really the day I had mine, thought anyone complaining of side effects or feeling off was probably just a wimp or in poor health or something. (I haven't had a day off work sick in 4 years and before that just once for a hormonal migraine related to the pill and not for a long time prior to that.) Even when I started feeling very shivery that evening I put about 10 layers on including hats and thought it was quite amusing and thought that would be the extent of it. I even took a selfie of me smiling in all my layers/hats etc as I knew I looked funny and sent it to my mum and sister for a laugh.

I decided to have an early night as thought that alone would do the trick, and thought it was a complete overreaction (and for wimps!) to take any paracetamol so I didn't bother. I really wish I had because I felt so dreadful soon after and for hours. Heart rate of 130 something for over an hour, despite me lying really still, high temp (started sweating profusely and had to strip off all my layers). I just felt so unwell, I haven't felt like that in years and years. I honestly did not expect to feel like that so it was quite a shock and it did worry me a bit till the paracetamol started working as I just wondered how bad it would need to get before I'd need to call someone for medical advice.

I wasn't great at all the next day either, just sat on the sofa as if I was recovering from a virus or an awful hangover. Managed to go into work the day after but felt like a zombie with a bad headache and was pretty useless to everyone. To be honest, the pressure in my temples for a few weeks after was fairly worrying, too, as there are strokes in the family and issues with blood pressure as well as strong family history of DVT & pulmonary embolisms.

So my advice is, just in case you ARE one of the unlucky ones like me, DO NOT drink any alcohol. Take paracetamol as soon as you start to feel you are developing any kind of temperature. Just go to bed and try to sleep.

It does annoy me the way that people who only had very minor reactions or none at all completely dismiss the fact that some people, for whatever reason that no-one actually knows yet, do experience seriously unpleasant side effects.

What's needed is education and support, to provide FULL information, and to look into people's valid concerns a bit more rather than the patronising "ah you'll most likely be fine" and "no, there's not an alternative vaccine and no I'm not prepared to listen to why you don't want the second dose, it's that or nothing."

We're all individuals here. I tend to have inflammatory markers tending towards the high side whenever I have routine blood tests. No-one's ever investigated that as not high enough to warrant it but perhaps that could indicate the reason why I had the over the top reaction the vaccine? Maybe there's actually a subset of people who they'll discover might be more likely to have a severe reaction and could be warned about that so they can be prepared and reassured.

It's really hard when this is all still so new. There are people who are genuinely worried about how their own particular body will react to the vaccine, for reasons often unknown to others. Don't put them in the same group as anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists, for god's sake.

I think they also need to send people delaying their second doses a questionnaire as to their reasons WHY, and do their research based around THAT, not waste millions on bloody celebrity-endorsed campaigns. Those are so bloody patronising.

Notthemessiah · 07/08/2021 14:28

@Treezan82

I'm sorry but do you realise how bloody lucky you are? How many millions of people happen to have been born in countries that can't afford a supply of vaccines? How many people are terrified, ill and/or dying and would kill for the safety a vaccine brings? Get a grip and grow some gratitude.
The modern equivalent of the whole 'Eat your sprouts - don't you know there are starving children in Africa.......'

I rolled my eyes then and I'm rolling them now.

Cornettoninja · 07/08/2021 14:28

I mean, you are being a tiny bit over dramatic. You haven’t been strong armed into working in a particular industry, one of the few benefits of aiming for minimum/low wage jobs is the freedom to diversify around industries and roles. Your choice wasn’t get a vaccine or starvation.

Anyway it’s done now, do yourself a favour and concentrate on the benefits because you can’t undo it. Holding onto resentment only ultimately hurts you.

Arsebucket · 07/08/2021 14:28

@CurlyhairedAssassin

I sympathise, OP. I had the AZ in February before any hooha about side effects (or clots - the reason I got the AZ early was because I'd had a clot a couple of years ago Hmm). I was very grateful to get it but I had an extremely unpleasant reaction and I have put off having my second dose. Doesn't seem to be any option to have the Pfizer this time instead either, so now I'm between a rock and a hard place if people are only going to be allowed to do certain things if they've been double-jabbed.

I had been too blase really the day I had mine, thought anyone complaining of side effects or feeling off was probably just a wimp or in poor health or something. (I haven't had a day off work sick in 4 years and before that just once for a hormonal migraine related to the pill and not for a long time prior to that.) Even when I started feeling very shivery that evening I put about 10 layers on including hats and thought it was quite amusing and thought that would be the extent of it. I even took a selfie of me smiling in all my layers/hats etc as I knew I looked funny and sent it to my mum and sister for a laugh.

I decided to have an early night as thought that alone would do the trick, and thought it was a complete overreaction (and for wimps!) to take any paracetamol so I didn't bother. I really wish I had because I felt so dreadful soon after and for hours. Heart rate of 130 something for over an hour, despite me lying really still, high temp (started sweating profusely and had to strip off all my layers). I just felt so unwell, I haven't felt like that in years and years. I honestly did not expect to feel like that so it was quite a shock and it did worry me a bit till the paracetamol started working as I just wondered how bad it would need to get before I'd need to call someone for medical advice.

I wasn't great at all the next day either, just sat on the sofa as if I was recovering from a virus or an awful hangover. Managed to go into work the day after but felt like a zombie with a bad headache and was pretty useless to everyone. To be honest, the pressure in my temples for a few weeks after was fairly worrying, too, as there are strokes in the family and issues with blood pressure as well as strong family history of DVT & pulmonary embolisms.

So my advice is, just in case you ARE one of the unlucky ones like me, DO NOT drink any alcohol. Take paracetamol as soon as you start to feel you are developing any kind of temperature. Just go to bed and try to sleep.

It does annoy me the way that people who only had very minor reactions or none at all completely dismiss the fact that some people, for whatever reason that no-one actually knows yet, do experience seriously unpleasant side effects.

What's needed is education and support, to provide FULL information, and to look into people's valid concerns a bit more rather than the patronising "ah you'll most likely be fine" and "no, there's not an alternative vaccine and no I'm not prepared to listen to why you don't want the second dose, it's that or nothing."

We're all individuals here. I tend to have inflammatory markers tending towards the high side whenever I have routine blood tests. No-one's ever investigated that as not high enough to warrant it but perhaps that could indicate the reason why I had the over the top reaction the vaccine? Maybe there's actually a subset of people who they'll discover might be more likely to have a severe reaction and could be warned about that so they can be prepared and reassured.

It's really hard when this is all still so new. There are people who are genuinely worried about how their own particular body will react to the vaccine, for reasons often unknown to others. Don't put them in the same group as anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists, for god's sake.

I think they also need to send people delaying their second doses a questionnaire as to their reasons WHY, and do their research based around THAT, not waste millions on bloody celebrity-endorsed campaigns. Those are so bloody patronising.

I was so worried because my last blood tests showed high inflammatory markers as well. But no one seems to care, even though my levels are way above normal.

I chose AZ - I was given a choice today.

But a friend I used to work with is still rehabilitating from a blood clot after AZ. I didn’t want pfizer as my 43 year old BIL had that and has suffered neurological problems since. He’s had to move back in with PIl as he shakes so much he can’t even hold a drink.

So that’s why I’ve been in tears. My inflammation markers are a worry, and the two cases I’ve just mentioned.

But no one seems to understand. I should just feel lucky I can get a vaccine.

We all have reasons for anxiety.

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Arsebucket · 07/08/2021 14:30

@Cornettoninja

I mean, you are being a tiny bit over dramatic. You haven’t been strong armed into working in a particular industry, one of the few benefits of aiming for minimum/low wage jobs is the freedom to diversify around industries and roles. Your choice wasn’t get a vaccine or starvation.

Anyway it’s done now, do yourself a favour and concentrate on the benefits because you can’t undo it. Holding onto resentment only ultimately hurts you.

I really do need to work. And I applied for, honestly, hundreds of other jobs. Cleaning, McDonalds. Not even an interview.
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NotDoris · 07/08/2021 19:21

I sympathise. I feel the same as you. Will be having the vaccine but really, really don’t want it.
You’re not alone.

Chillychangchoo · 07/08/2021 19:44

Oh get a grip.

CrunchyCarrot · 08/08/2021 08:09

@CurlyhairedAssassin

It's really hard when this is all still so new. There are people who are genuinely worried about how their own particular body will react to the vaccine, for reasons often unknown to others. Don't put them in the same group as anti-vaxxers and conspiracy theorists, for god's sake.

This is so true, I"m one of the 'genuinely worried'. BTW your rapid heartbeat after the vaccine for an hour or so sounds very much like the histamine reactions I get. You may have reacted to one of the vaccine's ingredients. Unpleasant but it does pass. I get that sort of thing quite often.

@Arsebucket But no one seems to understand. I should just feel lucky I can get a vaccine.

There are many who understand, they're just mainly not on this forum. You will find them in CFS and other health-related groups. There's a lot of sympathy and understanding for those with health challenges and the worry that having or not having the vaccine brings.

Backofbeyond50 · 08/08/2021 09:15

I think the alcohol situation is due to a possible effect on immune response.
www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/05/30/is-it-safe-to-drink-alcohol-after-getting-covid-19-vaccines/

SpringRainbow · 08/08/2021 09:47

@Arsebucket hope you are feeling ok this morning.

How was the lasagna and Apple Pie?

Arsebucket · 08/08/2021 09:52

@SpringRainbow delicious although maybe not the best idea to have gone straight in with masses of pasta and meat after 18 weeks of a low carb, vegan diet.

Let’s just say, me and gaviscon became very well acquainted again last night.

I’ve just got a sore, heavy arm. And I’m knackered because I woke up at 2am and could not get back to sleep for love nor money. Dd decided she wanted to sleep in the middle of the bed so the upper half of my body was contorted into the co sleeper cot, which is never the most comfy position!

Had a lovely long hot shower this morning though that did me the world of good.

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PurpleDaisies · 08/08/2021 09:56

The restorative power of a hot shower is absolute magic. ⭐️

Glad you’re feeling generally ok. Dh had AZ and had the same as you-just a sore arm. Hope you have a good day today. What are you up to?

Arsebucket · 08/08/2021 09:56

I have taken paracetamol regularly though as my arm is pissing me off.

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Arsebucket · 08/08/2021 09:58

@PurpleDaisies

The restorative power of a hot shower is absolute magic. ⭐️

Glad you’re feeling generally ok. Dh had AZ and had the same as you-just a sore arm. Hope you have a good day today. What are you up to?

My 7 year old wants a cosy movie day. Off to get her some popcorn when the shop opens. Dh will entertain the baby while I get a nap in to. I’m dropping already.
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PurpleDaisies · 08/08/2021 09:59

That sounds really nice.

Arsebucket · 08/08/2021 10:00

Every other vaccine I’ve had (travel, whooping cough in pregnancy etc), has come up in a huge lump. This one hasn’t. The top of my arm is just generally very heavy and sore. I’m glad I chose the arm I don’t carry dd in now.

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PurpleDaisies · 08/08/2021 10:01

I wasn’t prepared for my arm to be so sore. It was very uncomfortable for a couple of days. Then it was instantly fine. Very odd!

Arsebucket · 08/08/2021 10:10

I hope it doesn’t last long. The whooping couch vaccine when I was pregnant last year my arm killed for almost two weeks! I remember posting on here asking if it was normal!

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SpringRainbow · 08/08/2021 10:11

Aww sounds like you are going to have a lovely day. A movie day sounds perfect, I hope you all enjoy.

My arm was very sore after mine as well, paracetamol did the trick with me as well. It shouldn’t last much longer.

Arsebucket · 08/08/2021 10:11

*cough

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