FFS Been pinged & were due to go on holiday tomorrow

[TheWindOnTheMoon]

Well that's it then. We have to cancel our holiday. This year feels like I have been cursed. I've had two eye operations to stop me going blind, and now this.

DH & I have been doubly vaccinated but the DC are too young.

Aaaaaarrrrggghhh

OP the vulnerable are vaccinated. Just go. no many thousands of vulnerable are not vaccinated and thousands more may well not have been as the vaccine will be in effective for them.
What is wrong with you?

I’d do lateral flow and go. The app isn’t reliable.

If it's the app and your neighbors have it you could have been pinged through the wall. I wouldn't be concerned. It's not accurate. Bluetooth can only do so much

Take a LF test and go, enjoy yourself xxx

Op have a great time!

Through the wall!? My blue tooth won't work across my living / dining room.

@MyDcAreMarvel

OP the vulnerable are vaccinated. Just go. no many thousands of vulnerable are not vaccinated and thousands more may well not have been as the vaccine will be in effective for them. What is wrong with you?

What is wrong with you ?

@TheWindOnTheMoon

I've already made a decision what to do.DH got some LTF tests today, we've done a test each, they were negative. We will take boxes of tests with us. Thanks to the supportive and understanding posters on here. To those who haven't bothered to read the full thread, do so before you decide to be unpleasant. We are a CV family, DH & DS are asthmatic, and I have regular hospital appointments for my eyes, following Surgery two months ago. If you stil! feel the need to be nasty, choose another thread, not someone who is already struggling with anxiety. I won't post again on here, I know what we're doing.

Have a great holiday OP!

I hope you have a great holiday OP.

I'm sure you and your family will be very careful, and as you now know you are negative you will not be putting others at risk. Try not to worry.

30000 new downloads of the app last week I believe.

Good grief, people must be looking for new ways of making themselves miserable, either that or they are hoping to skive off work.

Have a great holiday OP I think you are being reaponsible still - you’ve tested today, will do whilst away too. And it sounds like you are super aware of things, so you’ll notice any symptoms. Hope you have a great time!!!

@TonTonMacoute

I hope you have a great holiday OP.

I'm sure you and your family will be very careful, and as you now know you are negative you will not be putting others at risk. Try not to worry.

30000 new downloads of the app last week I believe.

Good grief, people must be looking for new ways of making themselves miserable, either that or they are hoping to skive off work.

A negative LFT isn’t a guarantee that you won’t develop covid after taking the test following contact with a positive case.

Not saying that to cause more worry to the OP - I hope the OP has a great holiday too and manages not to feel too anxious - but it is misinformation to say taking an LFT and getting a negative result means you don’t need to worry about having the virus. If my husband had covid and I took an LFT that was negative then went to stay at a relatives house there is every chance I could have covid too, become symptomatic (or not), and pass it on.

Do most people hear directly from friends/family who've tested positive (and with whom they've been in recent contact) to warn them? I'd like to hope mine would. If Test and Trace can take days to get in touch (when contacts could have been here, there and everywhere socialising and shopping widely in the interim!), it somehow defeats the object and makes the system a lot less than perfect!

I've never downloaded the app. We've been very careful and really are still 'underdoing' (if that's a word!) socialising and indoor mixing with the wider general public.

This is why people living in Holiday places are NOT so thrilled with the high numbers of holidaymakers invading this year.

You do not give a stuff about spreading this pandemic/plague.

Medical resources are low in rural areas.
The hospitals are over full and can barely cope.

So if you do feel ill go home.

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

Do most people hear directly from friends/family who've tested positive (and with whom they've been in recent contact) to warn them? I'd like to hope mine would. If Test and Trace can take days to get in touch (when contacts could have been here, there and everywhere socialising and shopping widely in the interim!), it somehow defeats the object and makes the system a lot less than perfect!

I've never downloaded the app. We've been very careful and really are still 'underdoing' (if that's a word!) socialising and indoor mixing with the wider general public.

We notified friends/ family we had had contact with hours before the test and trace system kicked in and they were officially messaged.

@WovenFish thanks for this. I'd hope any of mine would let me know directly.

The drama is strong in this one...

@clickychicky
Why does anyone download the app if they are just going to ignore it when it does what it was downloaded for?

Exactly, baffles me too
I mean, why download it in the first place if you're just wanting to ignore it when it does what it's supposed to?!

Why does anyone download the app if they are just going to ignore it when it does what it was downloaded for?

Because it's still useful to have the information. If you get pinged you may choose not to forego a much needed holiday, but you may take extra precautions (drive instead of get the train for example). Or you may choose not to self isolate completely but you may postpone a visit to see granny/reschedule appointments etc.

The irony is, that by the time the app gets round to pinging you, you've already probably been in contact with loads of people. When I've been pinged it's usually for around 5 days. Which means I was close to someone 5 days before that who has gone on to test positive. Seems a bit like closing the stable door. But as I said above, it's still interesting/useful to know.

Yep @Medievalist, when I got 'pinged' it said I had to isolate for 4 days, so for 6 days I'd been all over the place anyhow.

I downloaded the app in good faith. But after having sat in a classroom on numerous occasions with pupils who tested positive and not once needed to isolate I decided it was utter bollocks and deleted it 4 weeks ago.

It would seem to me that neither app nor T&T is really fit for purpose.

I removed the app because there's nothing way I'm missing my holiday. everyone vulnerable has had a chance to be vaxxed, We've all, as a society, given up enough for the sake of virus that an estimated 90%+ hava antibodies for now. In fairness, I haven't been anywhere apart from running outdoors so fuck it.

I would delete the app (if I had not already done so) and say nothing. As my gran used to say "What the eye does not see the heart does not grieve over".

Whatistheworld

I've read in MN about daily testing after the 16th but not in the media.

Daily testing isn't in the government documents: www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-summer-2021-roadmap/moving-to-step-4-of-the-roadmap#fn:2

These just state that fully vaccinated and children will no longer need to isolate.

To be in the safe side in OP's position I'd test every so often though not necessarily daily.

@NewModelArmyMayhem18

Do most people hear directly from friends/family who've tested positive (and with whom they've been in recent contact) to warn them? I'd like to hope mine would. If Test and Trace can take days to get in touch (when contacts could have been here, there and everywhere socialising and shopping widely in the interim!), it somehow defeats the object and makes the system a lot less than perfect!

I've never downloaded the app. We've been very careful and really are still 'underdoing' (if that's a word!) socialising and indoor mixing with the wider general public.

When I tested positive I told everyone I'd been in contact with, within half an hour or so, if getting the result. I was in hospital at the time with complications we then realised was from Covid. Dh, Dd and two close friends all came home immediately from work/out. Friend's children came home from school straight away. I told work (school) straight away so they could deal with PHE (who were very laid back and lenient with the rules tbh). I even told the pub landlady an hour or so later - we have contact details as know them well, so she could decide if she needed to isolate or not.

I have T&T the details the same day a few hours later. They called friends, Dh and Dd almost immediately.