DH regrets having vaccine

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

So me and DH have both had both doses of Pfizer vaccine and I felt like I had done my research and outweighed the pros and cons and was happy with my decision.
The day after DH second dose he felt terrible he was laid in bed all day with aching, chills and what he describes as the most banging headache. I was fine 😳
The day after he was back to feeling his normal self.
Today he's come home from work and said he's had a banging headache all day just like the day after the vaccine, and in his words 'You don't know what shit they put into you do you really'
So now I'm freaking out 😂 I have health anxiety at the best of times and he is normally my reassurance and is always the one who rationalises with me about things when I'm feeling anxious. Now hearing him say that has made me question the whole Vaccine thing even though it's too late now anyway 😕😣

if you know what health anxiety is it's not that easy to just 'get over it' but thanks for your comment

I completely agree you can't just 'get over' any anxiety.

But surely, in the case of health anxiety you can inform yourself, with reliable information. Then you can discount your DH's nonsense & feel reassured. This information is very readily available, indeed you'll have been provided with it when you got your vaccine, as well as details of further sources of support.

I had Pfizer. First jab I was really unwell, second jab nothing but an achy arm

The MRNA does not degrade quickly. Reports on autopsies reporting it found in all organs.

Please get educated!

With the headaches, they I guess will probably pass but your DH should check with a Dr in case it is something that needs treatment whether or not related to the vaccine.

@loulouljh

The MRNA does not degrade quickly.

Yes it does. Please see my earlier post the m part = messenger ie sends the message to create a protein spike. It is gone in days.

The protein spike itself leaves the body after weeks.

Here's a Reuters face check: https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29I30V

The problem is that people are poorly informed on the biological activity around these new vaccines. They don't take advantage of reliable sources to inform themselves (I include you here).

Reports on autopsies reporting it found in all organs.

What autopsies? On what bodies? Source?

Please get educated!

Please do.

@EarringsandLipstick

if you know what health anxiety is it's not that easy to just 'get over it' but thanks for your comment

I completely agree you can't just 'get over' any anxiety.

But surely, in the case of health anxiety you can inform yourself, with reliable information. Then you can discount your DH's nonsense & feel reassured. This information is very readily available, indeed you'll have been provided with it when you got your vaccine, as well as details of further sources of support.

Thank you for your information you have posted you seem very well educated on it all. I have tried but it's amazing what social media directs you to and I admit I read a lot of media related stuff 🤦🏻‍♀️ Have you got any links I could read please?

@LifesTooShortYOLO

Honestly I'm not that well educated.

I simply read the booklet I received when I got my vaccine - did you not get this? It explained how the vaccine worked, the possible side effects, and what to do. A number was also provided for reporting any other unanticipated side effects.

Regarding further information, I read news sources I trust, and you will also find more details on NHS - I'm in Ireland so there's an equivalent HSE site that explains it clearly.

I posted two links in this thread which explain the science & debunk the myths / false information.

You might also find this site useful for checking inaccurate information generally: fullfact.org/

I don't mean this in a snippy way, at all, but the accurate information is readily available, it was even handed to you! So it should not be hard to check any concerns & alleviate them.

Honestly I'm not that well educated.

Meaning on this matter in particular! I'm well-educated otherwise, I hope!

But it's easy to get accurate information on this topic.

I had a headache for 2 weeks after second dose. Spoke to doc which reassured me. Suddenly headache just lifted but tinnitus in left ear returned (had it for years but it had gradually disappeared). Tinnitus is slowly reducing.
My view is that vaccine is not without risk so you do a risk assessment Vaccine Vs COVID. For me on balance risk of vaccine is lower than disease.

Oh and if you use social media, why not follow reliable sources and get your information there eg
WHO
Full Facts
CDC
NHS
Citizens Advice

Here's an article published today that might help those who worry about vaccine risk. (The author is a scientist).

www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/science/there-is-no-need-for-vaccine-hesitancy-among-the-young-1.4611802%3Fmode%3Damp

The risk (in overall terms, all vaccines) from a vaccine is so small as to be statistically incalculable. (This doesn't mean that individuals with vulnerabilities / underlying conditions may be advised against taking a certain vaccine. Speaking generally, not just about Covid).

Announced just now.

Over a 1000 unvaccinated young people are currently in ICU as head of NHS urges younger people to get vaccinated.

I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I know people very well who were and continue to be involved in the development of COVID vaccines and Covid treatments. They have all had their jabs.

Does your husband know what is in paracetamol? Ibuprofen? His polio inoculation?

Vaccination knowledge is vast in drug development and the money/time/human resources throw at Covid was unparalleled. This is why it went from concept to approval so quickly. The data from trials had just as rigorous scrutiny as any new product.

Any drug (even old products like paracetamol) have a chance of negative interactions when administered. However with Covid the issues from the virus are far more problematic than the vaccine.

I was quite unwell after the first Pfizer jab but was fine after the second. Nowhere near as unwell as I was from having Covid though. I’m still recovering 9 months later.

Sounds like he should take a test.

Different people react differently.
I had no side effects really, other people I know it made them very tired and get a headache.

I sometimes think as well, if people are anxious about the jab, they will perhaps take a normal headache for being associated with the jab.

If he's got a bad headache I'd take a COVID test. When I had COVID last year my only main symptom was a headache, that was non-stop for 5-6 days.

@loulouljh

The MRNA does not degrade quickly. Reports on autopsies reporting it found in all organs.

Please get educated!

With the headaches, they I guess will probably pass but your DH should check with a Dr in case it is something that needs treatment whether or not related to the vaccine.

@loulouljh Where did you read this? I would like to see these reports of vaccine mRNA being found at autopsy.

I’ve had both doses and regret it also I had it as I was worried about vaccine passports and not being able to do nice things with my children but now my men’s trial cycle has been completely thrown off it’s been months and it’s still not normal so I wish I’d left it as we don’t know the full effects yet

I volunteer at a vaccination centre and have noticed that a lot of people are somewhere between a bit apprehensive and very anxious indeed about having the vaccine. Some of them tell me they've been worrying about it for days, or even weeks. A few show very clear signs of distress. (They are not left to suffer, BTW, we all do our best to help.)

I have no wish to underplay side effects of the vaccines, but I can't help wondering what the effect of days or weeks of quite acute anxiety can have on the body, particularly things like the menstrual cycle and headaches.

RNA degrades extremely quickly, the point is that once it gets into a cell loads of copies will be made, so you are both right.

My reaction to the vaccine was the same as getting covid, just greatly reduced.
So instead of being unwell for 6 weeks, I was unwell for a few days. Exactly the same symptoms. I know which one I’d rather have.

@NiceGerbil

Chickpea are you vaccinated for polio, diphtheria, that sort of thing?

Yes I am.

The difference being that the covid vaccines which I'm choosing not to have yet are still only rolled out under emergency use authorization.

Look at the trouble we've had with the AZ.

The side effects aren't so rare when it happens to you.

The difference being that the covid vaccines which I'm choosing not to have yet are still only rolled out under emergency use authorization.

Emergency use authorisation was used to roll out the vaccines. But their development was not rushed. See cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/52472.html

Relevant part of transcript:

"the mRNA vaccines, in particular—may be new on the market, but using mRNA like this is actually not a new idea."

"Scientists have been working toward this type of mRNA technology for decades."

"layered into all of this is the research that focused on two other coronaviruses: the one associated with the original SARS (which was recognized as a global threat in March 2003) and the one associated with MERS (which was first reported in 2012)."

The last quote refers to the development of the spike protein, used in the vaccines.

The application in this case has been rapid; their development has not.

Look at the trouble we've had with the AZ.

What trouble?

Take a look at this BBC article which tries to estimate the risks & quantify them.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/explainers-56665396.amp

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NiceGerbil

Chickpea are you vaccinated for polio, diphtheria, that sort of thing?

Yes I am.

The difference being that the covid vaccines which I'm choosing not to have yet are still only rolled out under emergency use authorization.

Look at the trouble we've had with the AZ.

The side effects aren't so rare when it happens to you.'

Side effects are possible with all vaccines and v rare. That's an argument against being vaccinated full stop surely.

When my ds had his pfeizer vaccine we were given a sheet that actually said exactly what's in it! He got given the same one for both jabs.

I didn't when I had mine!

We were vaccinated at different places.