DH regrets having vaccine

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

So me and DH have both had both doses of Pfizer vaccine and I felt like I had done my research and outweighed the pros and cons and was happy with my decision.
The day after DH second dose he felt terrible he was laid in bed all day with aching, chills and what he describes as the most banging headache. I was fine 😳
The day after he was back to feeling his normal self.
Today he's come home from work and said he's had a banging headache all day just like the day after the vaccine, and in his words 'You don't know what shit they put into you do you really'
So now I'm freaking out 😂 I have health anxiety at the best of times and he is normally my reassurance and is always the one who rationalises with me about things when I'm feeling anxious. Now hearing him say that has made me question the whole Vaccine thing even though it's too late now anyway 😕😣

[quesera2]

I had Astra Zeneca (both doses) and regret it. I've been unwell with a multitude of symptoms ever since. I had it months ago, keep expecting to recover but never do.

[TheTallOakTrees]

I hope your dp is feeling better now op.

I realise the anti vax and conspiracy lit don't watch the BBC but there was a story on just now showing the increase in younger unvaccinated in ICU. They interviewed one slowly recovering and a consultant. It wasn't made up it's factual.
It's sad that something to protect people from harm is in a privileged country is lied about by so many anti vax etc to what end point, deaths and unnecessary illness of people 😢

[Chickpea1434]

I apologise for my posts fuelling your anxiety OP. I'll come away from the thread now.

[NiceGerbil]

' the vast majority in this toxic turdhole'



'hysterical women'

'There's no point in having any meaningful debate on this forum'

Hmm.

Well if you have a key point that revolves around something totally untrue, a well know piece of info that is published for all to see...

Then I'm not sure the lack of 'meaningful debate' is down to people who are not you.

To state nonsense repeatedly, even when told more than once it's nonsense.

Then when it's pointed out call (? England? The UK?) a toxic turdhole and this site full of 'hysterical women' is not the most gracious flounce I've seen tbh.

[sunnymoo]

@EKGEMS

My life has been turned upside down in the past six months. I'm a front line RN and got both Pfizer vaccines as soon as my employer offered. I haven't worked in six months-tachycardia,fever,headaches,sore throat,thyroiditis, hypothyroidism, fever daily,vasculitis,elevated lipids and cholesterol, two rashes, new onset diabetes. Every month it's something bad. I just had a cardiac CT this am cause my labs are so bad. I've never been on so much medication. Don't mean to scare you by this post but I can honestly say I still want people to get vaccinated but to be educated.

I'm really sorry you have experienced this, but I can't understand why you still want people to get vaccinated

[NiceGerbil]

So on the one hand those who would like a good coverage are motivated by self interest eg wanting the hairdresser to stay open.

But simultaneously you think-
'I believe a vaccine should be for the health of the person taking it, not some greater good crap'

That seems to me to be extremely self centred!

It's about prevention. Preventing is better than curing.

If your argument is that those who want to see high take up are generally just being selfish
But at the same time saying I only do what works for me why should I consider anything else?

Then I would suggest that you are projecting your own attitude onto others- because you think everyone only acts out of self interest.

This is an attitude I've come across loads before!

[NiceGerbil]

'Anyone is technically eligible if they are concerned about the vulnerable dying so why is a flu death less of an issue than covid?'

Why push a point you obviously think is a winner when you're just plain wrong? On a thing that I'd think is pretty well known with the publicity every year? I have pointed out twice that flu vaccine is only offered to certain groups on NHS.

'Who can have the flu vaccine?
The flu vaccine is given to people who:
are 50 and over (including those who'll be 50 by 31 March 2021)
have certain health conditions
are pregnant
are in long-stay residential care
receive a carer's allowance, or are the main carer for an older or disabled person who may be at risk if you get sick
live with someone who's at high risk from coronavirus (on the NHS shielded patient list)
frontline health or social care workers'

www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/flu-influenza-vaccine/

[NiceGerbil]

And vaccination centres for flu? Yes the docs have special clinics etc. But if anyone from a low v risk group turns up they will not get a jab!

I'm not sure of your point here.

There is no general roll out of flu vaccine. It is only for certain groups.

Why are you berating people who don't go for a jab that they are not eligible for? I can't make sense of that.

[NiceGerbil]

The flu does kill a lot of people every year yes.

The flu vaccine is not nearly so focused- every year they take the ones that think area the candidates to be the dominant one and vaccinate at risk groups against those.

In terms of media, I suppose it's the same as other things that result in a lot of deaths but are kind of the way it is. Like the toll of cars in terms of long term injury/ death.

Humans are poor at risk assessment generally. As a species.

The annual toll of flu is not reported much, certainly not headline.

To say that those who would like the vaccine for covid to have as much uptake as possible, don't care about people dying of flu. That they know, are well aware and just don't care is pretty strong surely?

[NiceGerbil]

I don't run the NHS!

They currently only offer flu vaccine to certain groups. If you disagree with their decision then you need to write to MP or similar.

Unless you're suggesting that those who don't cough up for a private vaccine are callous?

[NiceGerbil]

Flu vaccine is only offered to those in certain risk groups.

It's a completely different situation.

Where do you live? I'm in England and that's pretty well known.

[sleepwouldbenice]

@FionaShrewsbury

Many things are said about the virus and the vaccine which are untrue but the only relevant thing for me is the risk of the virus compared to the benefits of the vaccine

Virus- average age of death above life expectancy which is so deadly most don't even know they have it

Vaccine- Unclear what long term effects may be with small risks of death for all age groups that will need to be topped up every few months driven by a fairly creepy vaccine agenda from every media outlet/government going.

As the vaccine worries me more than the virus- no thanks to the first jab/ second jab and boosters for years to come

Or alternatively the risks from both the vaccine and covid are low for some age groups as are the longer term impacts so why not do something to benefit someone other than yourself
Seriously these boards are making me more anti non vaccinated ( by choice) every day. And I genuinely haven't been in the past

[NiceGerbil]

Had left but still on threads I'm on and saw my name.

Honestly it will be absolutely AOK.

Just thought though-

When I had perinatal anxiety and depression that unfortunately went on for years.

I had one particular thing that I was totally irrational about.

It was to the extent that I only left the house when I absolutely had to for over s year.

During that time, at home s lot and with young children, it's that sort of start stop that means for me anyway I was on MN an awful lot.

I was drawn to threads which from the title I knew would be about the thing that made me have panic attacks etc. It was a bit moth to a flame.

Then I'd get more upset and probably posted really irrational things (not saying you're doing that!) and it was for me, not good at all.

The other thing is that on a current topic like covid and vaccines which has some really opposed ideas, people will start veering off into things that are not helpful. Also, there are people on here who enjoy putting the boot in, upsetting people etc.

So while MN is fab. Treat with caution for your anxiety.

If you are drawn to covid threads then reading all this stuff will not help, hide the topic is a possibility.

As it's health anxiety you are likely to get a more sensitive response on health or mental health.

I don't know if that's useful- you're not me! But thought I'd say it anyway.

Also it sounds like your OH is not exactly being helpful. Presumably he knows how you feel. I've not read all your posts sorry but talking to friends/ family IRL if there are any you feel comfy talking to is good. Rather than bottle it in.

I had propranolol to take as and when. It's a beta blocker, slows heart rate.

It was really good for me as it massively reduces the anxiety response- the pounding heart, not being able to get enough breath etc.

With the physical response controlled I found it much easier to say to myself. You're being irrational. You know this isn't true. Etc. And tamp it back down.

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

Apologies NiceGerbil I have just re read your comments and can see what you meant now.
I think the way you re quoted Chick Peas comments made me think they were coming from you 😂
I really am great full for the comments and information on this thread I am reading through them and the links provided 😊

[EarringsandLipstick]

To be fair, I think @NiceGerbil was trying to offer support & say that there wasn't a reason to fear vaccines! I didn't see anything worrying in their posts?

Maybe she's right tho, it might be better for us to stop posting & then the thread won't keep affecting you.

[NiceGerbil]

I'm sorry OP that obviously wasn't my intention.

I'll leave the thread.

Please don't worry. It's all fine. Really.

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

No EaringsAndLipstick it wasn't your posts I was relating too at all. I actually found all of your info very helpful.
It was NiceGerbils comments that were fuelling my vaccination fears 🤦🏻‍♀️

[EarringsandLipstick]

@LifesTooShortYOLO

Reading these latest comments is doing nothing to calm my anxiety surrounding the vaccine 🤯

Which ones? Because if they are mine, I've linked to copious reliable sources backing up how safe the vaccine is.

Earlier you asked for some information. Did you check out anything I shared?

If you're only going to read uniformed posts, and not look at reliable sources, without meaning to be harsh, I don't have too much sympathy for your health anxiety.