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Who isn't wearing a mask today?

512 replies

ItsVousNotMoi · 19/07/2021 06:39

AIBU not to wear a mask on the train today? What can anyone do to you anyway??

FREEDOM!!!!!!

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IHTC · 19/07/2021 10:04

Me. Glad to see the back of them!

whistlers · 19/07/2021 10:08

@MyGardenSanctuary

Masks are nothing more than a psychological comfort blanket. An advisor to SAGE said the same over the weekend. The masks the public wear are totally ineffective.
Can you source this? It would make me feel better about ditching mine
Holly60 · 19/07/2021 10:12

I will still be wearing mine basically as I did before. I am double jabbed so it’s more to reassure others, and prevent spreading it to anyone else as numbers are going up. Even if people aren’t getting so sick, it’s still a pain to get ill over summer and it’s no bother to pop a mask on

redcarbluecar · 19/07/2021 10:14

@Mooloolabababy I feel the same! 😀 It’s good to have something to mutter behind. I say we keep them forever.

Oysterbabe · 19/07/2021 10:20

I've been in 3 big shops today and at a guess I'd say 70% of people were in masks. Non-mask wearers were mostly under 30.
I appreciate being able to use my own judgement on it. These were large, open, airy shops and not busy at all. It was very easy to keep a reasonable distance. Lots of staff weren't wearing them. Checkout staff are behind screens. If I ever got public transport I'd probably wear one.

shinynewapple21 · 19/07/2021 10:20

@KeyWorker

Freedom to catch Coronavirus…

I’ll be sticking with a mask indoors in public I think. Shopping, public transport ect. I do think I’ll drop the mask for outdoor stuff tho, school yard I won’t bother now, we’re spread over a biggish yard and also moving around outdoor beer gardens ect, no need now I don’t think.

Same

DiscordandRhyme · 19/07/2021 10:24

I'll be wearing in public transport, large shops, hospitals etc.

Enclosed spaces basically.

I won't wear them if a few friends visit mine though nor any outdoor event.

southeastdweller · 19/07/2021 10:25

@livingwitheds1984

Did all the virtue signallers wear masks then to stop flu spreading? Nope. No-one gave a shiny shit.

By that standard if someone murders a person, or steals from a shop, I should go out and murder someone, or steal from a shop.

The lesson we all need to learn from the pandemic is that wearing masks when ill is a good thing and something we should all adopt permanently going forward, like they have done for many years in some Asian countries.

No we shouldn’t be doing this permanently. You may want to live a restricted life but plenty of us don’t.

And your comparison is ridiculous.

phoenixrosehere · 19/07/2021 10:28

As a shop worker this thread makes me so sad, I'm dreading my shift later, I will be wearing my mask for a 9 hour shift, I will be very thankful to the customers who wear their mask for their 5 or 10 minute visit to the shop

I try to remember that MN is not representative of the areas I frequent. I work in Oxford and customers are usually in our shop min 10 min or longer and 99% of them wear masks. Few have forgotten that they didn’t have them on but quickly put them on apologising profusely for not having done so before they entered or purchase one from us. We do leave the door open but it is still a rather small and narrow shop.

Saying that, from the beginning of lockdown and now when the shop was open, we didn’t have any of the issues that we heard about on here in shops and neither did the shops surrounding ours. Afaik we didn’t have to ask anyone about wearing a mask or asking if they were exempt. Think it really comes down to the community mindset.

toolatetooearly · 19/07/2021 10:30

Yep, I kept mine on in Tesco earlier. Not bothered if others don't want to though.

Whiskycav · 19/07/2021 10:31

I think if we do have another bad flu year, then people will be asked to wear masks.

2017-2018 it was unthinkable to do this.

January 2020 people thought lockdowns were unthinkable.

Things change. Usually the changes are good for some not for others.

sprinkleyumnut · 19/07/2021 10:34

The problem is all these places saying we still have to wear them to get in

toolatetooearly · 19/07/2021 10:35

@GreenesAlibi

I'm wearing one. Reasons are, variously: it's a small easy thing to do, I'm not a dick, it protects other people, I'm not a dick, it helps people feel more comfortable, I'm not a dick, it helps prevent CV and CEV people being excluded from society, I'm not a dick etc.
That's my main reason for still wearing mine. If it makes someone else feel more comfortable, then I'll happily wear it for the 20 mins I'm in a shop/bus/tube. Wearing a mask makes absolutely no difference to me on any level, so why wouldn't I?
LucilleTheVampireBat · 19/07/2021 10:36

@Theworldisfullofgs

TheVampiresWife all the more reason for others to do their bit.
People have done their bit. For months and months and months and yet here we have yet another thread filled with people calling others selfish and thick. Can you lot not just give it a rest?
sprinkleyumnut · 19/07/2021 10:37

Will be wearing mine inside until I have my 2nd vaccine and it's taken effect but from October onwards, mask is gone.

leafyygreens · 19/07/2021 10:44

[quote whistlers]www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/17/cloth-face-masks-comfort-blankets-do-little-curb-covid-spread/[/quote]
@whistlers

I posted on the last mask thread

The quote is from Colin Axon, an engineer who who wrote a paper that was used in the evidence considered by SAGE, but is not part of it. Despite his views, and considering other sourced of evidence, they recommend cloth masks for the reasons outlined below.

There are crank scientists everywhere peddling pseudoscience on vaccines, masks, ivermectin, various suppression policies and you can easily find a quote from any of them to back up untrue statements

He claims that masks don't make a difference which is patently untrue. Predictably he is also anti-suppression policies and mass vaccination. There is a huge amount of evidence that demonstrates cloth masks reduce the amount of viral particles expelled by an infectious person, therefore reducing the viral load people in the surrounding environment are exposed to. This translates to fewer infections, and better clinical outcomes of those who are infectious.

You don't have to wear a mask if you don't want to now, but there's no need to try and justify it with things that aren't true.

DumplingsAndStew · 19/07/2021 10:50

I'll still be wearing masks when appropriate as 1) We don't all live in England, and 2) I'm not fucking stupid.

sleepwouldbenice · 19/07/2021 10:54

In short no
But you crack on with the virtue signalling crap

Poppynit · 19/07/2021 11:06

Did all the virtue signallers wear masks then to stop flu spreading? Nope. No-one gave a shiny shit.

Not necessarily true. Pre-covid, if I knew someone had cold/flu symptoms I would always maintain good hygiene and keep my distance from them. E.g. if they used the phone at work I would give it a wipe down. If I had a cold I wouldn’t go to my grandparents house and I know that most of the people in my circle were/are the same.

Since passing swine flu onto my entire household way back when (I’ve never lived that one down🙄), I’ve always been keen not to infect people to the best of my ability.

WeHaveComeSoFar · 19/07/2021 11:10

@SippingWhiskeyOutTheBottle

So many people can’t wait to post on this thread to say they’ll not be wearing a mask. Why aren’t you out and about then having fun, instead of posting on mumsnet? The weather is beautiful, your ‘freedom day’ is here, you’re so thrilled.... but you’re posting on mumsnet... My guess is a lot of these people don’t go out often, don’t have places to go and get their kicks from winding others up who are genuinely concerned.
Are you for real? Loooool. You posted this at 9:46am. Where exactly are people meant to be?
ArnoldJudasRimmer · 19/07/2021 11:15

I'm glad to hear from the majority on this thread, and posters who have been out and about, that most people are still seem to be wearing a mask and distancing in shops. I was planning on only going to shops if needed and when it would hopefully be quietest to avoid being in crowds of maskless people getting too close, but I feel better about it should I need to pick something up now. Smile

Doodlebug71 · 19/07/2021 11:21

Wearing masks isn't virtue signalling. It's perfectly reasonable.

People who have flu don't generally feel well enough to get out of bed.

Yes, we'll be wearing masks, because we're not selfish idiots.
www.mailplus.co.uk/edition/health/medical-matters/85902/why-it-would-be-madness-for-us-to-stop-wearing-face-masks-now

Apologies for DM link. That's where one of the Drs I follow on twitter posted her article. Pertinent paragraphs here:

What we know now is that the virus is actually transmitted via tiny airborne particles that, in enclosed spaces, stay in the air, waiting to infect someone else. So not only does a mask prevent airborne particles from being released into the air, a mask also prevents us from inhaling those airborne particles.

Say you’re infected but, like around 50 per cent of people who pass on the virus, have no symptoms, and you’re in an empty carriage on your own. If you take off your mask and spend ten minutes exhaling virus particles before getting off the train, you have filled that carriage with contaminated air and the next person that steps into it is at risk.

And a lot of people are still at risk: Unvaccinated children and teenagers are at risk, people who are unable to have the vaccine are at risk, as are people for whom the vaccine has not been effective.The vaccination programme is great and undoubtedly, the more people who are vaccinated, the fewer cases and the less transmission we will see. But vaccination isn’t 100 per cent effective and we know that vaccinated people can still catch and transmit the virus. So until everyone – including teenagers – has been vaccinated twice, we should all be wearing masks when we’re in enclosed, unventilated spaces. Even those who have been double jabbed.

This virus hasn’t gone away – it’s still killing people every day, and the more people wear masks, the fewer people will die. It really is as simple as that.

southeastdweller · 19/07/2021 11:22

I’ve been on two fairly busy buses today and seen three people on total wearing masks. Bus drivers aren’t questioning or refusing entry to anyone. Similarly at a small Tesco I went in. The shelf stackers there weren’t wearing masks (but they had been before yesterday).

I’m sure some people here are excited at the thought of non-mask wearers being denied entry into shops and the like but maybe they don’t live in the real world.

TheWindOnTheMoon · 19/07/2021 11:24

Just had a text from DH who was at a café. Most people wearing masks, but some not.

He had a conversation with a woman not wearing a mask, who said she was confused as to whether she was supposed to or not still indoors. DH told her he was still wearing mask because of rising figs & admissions. She was shocked, said hadn't known, wasn't following stats, and thought everything was ok now. She got her mask out & put it on.

Seems there are people who don't realise how bad it's getting again & have only heard the government's freedom day message and thought it was all over Hmm