Anyone want to predict when the next lockdown will be?

[MagicSummer]

I am guessing last week of August/beginning of September, and schools won't be going back when they are due to!

@AlecTrevelyan006

Furlough and business grants/loans.

Exactly - and we can longer afford to keep dishing these out

Apparently If they scrap the H2 rail thingy the government could pay furlough for 7 years

Two weeks timev

Schools will restart.

I think any restrictions will happen before Parliament resumes in September, as Mr Johnson likes to bypass scrutiny. I am sure that during his time in Chequers he will be dreaming up who to blame. When it should be him, a man who should be facing criminal charges.

Apparently If they scrap the H2 rail thingy the government could pay furlough for 7 years

Even if that was a realistic possibility I don’t think I could condone that. At what point is a job/business simply not viable in the current (long term) conditions? How many people are coming off furlough just to be made redundant?

I was fully supportive of the first wave furlough scheme (and it should have been more comprehensive to capture those who fell outside its remit) but we’re eighteen months in. If a business can’t adapt or justify higher prices to stay afloat with changes then what’s the point of delaying the inevitable?

@newnortherner111

Schools will restart.

I think any restrictions will happen before Parliament resumes in September, as Mr Johnson likes to bypass scrutiny. I am sure that during his time in Chequers he will be dreaming up who to blame. When it should be him, a man who should be facing criminal charges.

Nothing will happen to him other than losing his job at some point. Let's face it, there's a certain other prime minister who has escaped criminal charges so why should Boris be any different?

Another vote for delayed start to the school term in September.

@Cornettoninja I don't think the Beta variant is particularly rising in mainland France though, is it? It's rising in Mayotte and La Réunion, which are in the Indian ocean, and part of France, but not exactly on the route to Calais. I may be wrong, but that's what Radio 4 news seemed to be saying yesterday evening.

[quote ledesertsacre]@Cornettoninja I don't think the Beta variant is particularly rising in mainland France though, is it? It's rising in Mayotte and La Réunion, which are in the Indian ocean, and part of France, but not exactly on the route to Calais. I may be wrong, but that's what Radio 4 news seemed to be saying yesterday evening.[/quote]
Quite.

@Cornettoninja

Apparently If they scrap the H2 rail thingy the government could pay furlough for 7 years

Even if that was a realistic possibility I don’t think I could condone that. At what point is a job/business simply not viable in the current (long term) conditions? How many people are coming off furlough just to be made redundant?

I was fully supportive of the first wave furlough scheme (and it should have been more comprehensive to capture those who fell outside its remit) but we’re eighteen months in. If a business can’t adapt or justify higher prices to stay afloat with changes then what’s the point of delaying the inevitable?

Oh I’m not saying I condone or want that to happen especially as a business owner that’s now saddled with massive debt, I was just trying to make the point that there is money, plenty for the dodgy contracts to pals etc

@HaveANiceFuckingDay

My manager has literally walked out the door because I started my shift about 15 minutes ago and he was in the midst of discussing just this He is absolutely adamant we will be in lockdown in 4 weeks , he was absolutely not taking no for an answer and wanted to know my proof and the dickhead is sulking when I tried to discuss hospitalization and figures and vaccinations.its.ok when I'm still sat in the very seat in 2 months time I'll being it back up and watch him backpedal..very fast

That’s the thing with these lockdown lovers based on zero facts just hype and paranoia and won’t listen to reason.

@tappitytaptap

Ha well they can go to fuck if they think a lot of people will be balancing homeschooling and working again. I don’t think they will close schools to be honest. People will just have to get over it.

People will just have to get over... loved ones dropping like flies?...

@JustMeAndWheatley

Mid August

Really hope I’m wrong.

You are

About September 15th - just after the schools go back and just before unis go back.

@TheMawisbraw and I completely agree - I got carried away with the thought

October/ November.
I think education bubbles will be back by mid September 😭

This Tuesday.

People will just have to get over... loved ones dropping like flies?...

Yeah you can't move where I am for all the bodies piled high

People will just have to get over... loved ones dropping like flies?..

Now you are being ridiculous you don’t believe that.

@DottyHarmer

A new variant could come from anywhere in the world. Locking down now is hardly going to protect us from a strain cooking up wherever in the world. Remember how this all started…. with a tiny number of travellers.

If a vaccine resistant strain breaks into the (world) population then lockdowns are utterly pointless, as we’re all f*d.

Best post of the week!!

@Cornettoninja

Apparently If they scrap the H2 rail thingy the government could pay furlough for 7 years

Even if that was a realistic possibility I don’t think I could condone that. At what point is a job/business simply not viable in the current (long term) conditions? How many people are coming off furlough just to be made redundant?

I was fully supportive of the first wave furlough scheme (and it should have been more comprehensive to capture those who fell outside its remit) but we’re eighteen months in. If a business can’t adapt or justify higher prices to stay afloat with changes then what’s the point of delaying the inevitable?

My sister's husband's brother worked for an big London Arts Centre whose union managed to get the staff who were being made redundant put on furlough instead, which was then extended by Rishi to September. He's still on furlough on hoping for another extension (as he know his job will probably be made redundant when he finally comes off it).

His take on it was that the CEO and upper management didn't give a shit as long as the CEO got her quarter of a million a year salary - funded by the Arts Council, ie, the taxpayer.

I have mixed feelings about using taxpayers monies in this way as it is delaying the inevitable that a lot of the arts just won't recover in the same way and these jobs can no longer be justified. Also because he seems like a jammy bastard who is hoping for another lockdown because it is in his interest.

Though I don’t think we’re all fucked, but the rest of your post is bang on

People will just have to get over... loved ones dropping like flies?...

@OliveTree75

People will just have to get over... loved ones dropping like flies?...

Dropping like flies

Seriously 🙄

We won't go into another lockdown to shield the vulnerable or prevent deaths. We'll only go in if the nhs can't cope. The doubling time at the moment is 16 days, so I'd imagine in 2 weeks we'll have around 100k cases, 2 weeks after that would be 200k a day, however as we reach the peak the doubling time will lengthen so it may be around 150k a day. If the peak lasts for a week or so that's 1.5million infections. How many of those will need hospital care is the question.