Anyone want to predict when the next lockdown will be?

[MagicSummer]

I am guessing last week of August/beginning of September, and schools won't be going back when they are due to!

[quote Quartz2208]@NannyAndJohn that poll is insane though and actually shows the damage the fear attached to Covid has done or a real issue in how the interview was conducted.

Because how on earth can 19% (so roughly 190 people) think we should have a PERMANENT curfew against leaving the house after 10pm without a good reason

And 35% permanent quarantine from foreign travel even without COVID.

I am not sure what that shows but it doesnt sound remotely sensible[/quote]
Completely agree

26% of people don’t want nightclubs to ever reopen, regardless of covid. That’s over half of the 46% who don’t want them to reopen tomorrow. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the most prolific anti-opening posters on here are part of that group. Realising that they want people’s lives restricted forever, even once there’s no risk from covid, makes it much easier to just ignore their views.

Also you’d want to contextualise most of these numbers. Have the 26% who apparently don’t want nightclubs to ever reopen been to one in the last 10 years? How many of them are under 45?

It’s easy to call for the closure of things you never personally use.

[quote Quartz2208]@NannyAndJohn that poll is insane though and actually shows the damage the fear attached to Covid has done or a real issue in how the interview was conducted.

Because how on earth can 19% (so roughly 190 people) think we should have a PERMANENT curfew against leaving the house after 10pm without a good reason

And 35% permanent quarantine from foreign travel even without COVID.

I am not sure what that shows but it doesnt sound remotely sensible[/quote]
I can think of plenty of reasons why one may want a permanent curfew.

To keep children safe, to reduce the amount of violent crime, to prevent the NHS being overrun by A&E admissions...

@NannyAndJohn so you don’t think these scenarios would happen during the day instead if a 10pm curfew were to be imposed?

How very puritanical of you Nannyandjohn. Let’s just remove free will and ability to for example decide to drive back home at 7pm to allow the children to spend a day somewhere

It really wouldn’t stop those you know and I think you have played your hand now as to why you are so pro lockdown

We all know how nanny want to live her life by now,

The problem is the degree to which she wants to drag us all along with her.

I wonder how this compares to daily hospital admissions in Jan?

I remember the 40,000 number but assume that was in hospital at peak

@MarshaBradyo, see attached.

Longcovid would be my concern

I never said that I'm in favour of a permanent curfew.

I was just explaining why some people might be.

But but the polls said...................

@PoliticsForAlI
Police cars revolving light | NEW: Massive queue to get into a club that opens in 13 minutes

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[quote MercyBooth]But but the polls said...................

@PoliticsForAlI
Police cars revolving light | NEW: Massive queue to get into a club that opens in 13 minutes

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Fuck me. Looks like we'll be back into lockdown even sooner than I thought.

If/When the next variant causes too much chaos to ignore.

21st July?

No later than 6 September, cases will double every 10 days & the NHS will be in danger of being overwhelmed. If the heatwave continues then it will be a lot sooner.

End of September

There won't be another lockdown.
We might see masks back and shutdowns of big indoor events in the winter, if the flu season is really bad. Don't think anything beyond that is likely to fly.

*Because how on earth can 19% (so roughly 190 people) think we should have a PERMANENT curfew against leaving the house after 10pm without a good reason

And 35% permanent quarantine from foreign travel even without COVID.*

Exactly. I suspect that a lot of respondents are either failing to read the questions properly, or are not actually engaging their brains and are choosing whichever answer looks the most "virtuous/germfree" as a way of feeling good about themselves.

If they really were stopped from going out after 10pm permanently these twerps would be the first people to complain.

Yep I bet it’s just furthest to the lockdown end responses - some might do that from here if asked.

Plus nightclubs showing demand as pp - probably far less likely to bother to do a poll.

[quote frumpety]@MagicSummer do you mean Lockdown as in shops and schools closed, only allowed to go out for essential trips etc or do you mean an increase in some restrictions again so Lockdown lite ?[/quote]
I think it might have to be a proper lockdown again unfortunately with shops at least closed, maybe not schools.

To those posters who think I am stirring up gloom and doom, that was not my intention. I think it is glaringly obvious that infections are going to rocket now and, yes, hospitalizations will increase too. I don't want it to happen, but fear it will.

@NannyAndJohn

I never said that I'm in favour of a permanent curfew.

I was just explaining why some people might be.

No there should not be any reasons at all anyone voted for any permanent restrictions on our lives.

That poll is a sad indictment of what this has done to us how we can flippantly say restrictions should be permanent, how they should be in now without actually recognising what that means.

Lockdowns have massive massive consequences that these threads never seem to grasp. We cant just go back to them without careful consideration that it is both necessary to protect the NHS and that something can be achieved from it because otherwise all we will be doing is suppressing it and moving this problem further down the line. Which is exactly what Chris Whitty has said. Delta isnt the same as what we have locked down for before.

As I continually say we need to move from the idea of lockdown - I think that ship by and large has sailed now into the idea of measures and restrictions. Because I think it has actually caused us to be where we are today. A rebrand of what is needed away from the idea of lockdown to sensible precautions and short term limits (on numbers etc) would be far better

Quite right, Quartz.

Surveys are stupid anyway. “100% of people love cats!” (Survey from Cat Lovers magazine) “Vegan numbers soar!” (Vegan Weekly). Or else they’re self-selecting, eg a survey on lockdowns.

The nightclub issue is ridiculous, as they have no relevance to most people. When I think about the very pro lockdown people I know in real life they are people who never went anywhere before covid. They are very vocal about pub lunches being the root of all evil - they haven’t had a pub lunch for a good 20 years!

Exactly I could quite happily never go to a nightclub again but my heart breaks for those 18-25 year olds who have missed out now on doing so. I may not be able to imagine anything worse now but it is important to the younger generation

This site will be closer to polls - well for a few - than nightclubs

Many in the middle

I can see younger shops get stuff not just middle age etc

So if a lockdown happens and I'm on a cottage holiday, would I be expected to travel home immediately or see out the end of the holiday?

Similarly, what happens if one of us contracts Covid on holiday in the UK? Do we travel back, as soon as we know, the 500 miles in the car with the infected person without stopping as we'd have to self-isolate?

@PotteringAlong

Beginning of November - if it happens they will tag it onto October half term.

Yes that would be my prediction too. It won't be called a Lockdown of course. So, it won't be. Yes, I wonder if BJ will be gone by then too. Certainly by next Spring I think? Good riddance.

@Soppyseptember

So if a lockdown happens and I'm on a cottage holiday, would I be expected to travel home immediately or see out the end of the holiday?

Similarly, what happens if one of us contracts Covid on holiday in the UK? Do we travel back, as soon as we know, the 500 miles in the car with the infected person without stopping as we'd have to self-isolate?

If it's during a period where private schools are off, I'm absolutely certain that you'll be able to stay until the end of your holiday in the same way that restrictions will never start until the end of the week where they can go but the rest of us are still in school, or until a week after we've all gone back.

Lockdown #1 Announced 23rd March 2020 w/ef from 26th March 2021. Private schools break up - 20th March 2020. State Schools breakup 27th March 2020 assuming they were able to open for those last three days

'Everything will be awesome at Christmas' announced 15th December 2020. Private schools break up - December 17th 2020.

Lockdown #2 Announced 19th December 2020 w/ef 21st December 2020. Private schools already broken up, state schools break up 18-21st December assuming they had enough staff to remain open

'Go back to school' announced 4th January 2021. State schools already going back that day. Many private schools not due to go back until the following week. Lockdown #3 announced 6th January 2021.

Best case scenario is that the people in the Civil Service/Government have no idea when state schools operate, so plan everything according to their experience, ie, according to the average private school calendar. [tin hat on] Or they know exactly what the differences are and are OK with privately educated families being able to get off to the second homes/holiday homes/relatives before bringing in restrictions for the Great Unwashed.