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Anyone absolutely dreading the figures next week after Wembley

241 replies

Homeontherangeuk · 14/07/2021 23:34

49 deaths reported today, 50 yesterday & 42,000 cases plus today, I am feeling very nervous about the weeks ahead... The govt simply have to man up & take ownership of this escalating catastrophe....

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Cooldryplace · 15/07/2021 07:43

@Homeontherangeuk

Sorry I didn't mean just Wembley, I meant the whole tournament as a whole... The Olympics are going to be held behind closed doors, no spectators... The euros could have been the same across Europe...
But again, I honestly don't think the stadium events will be the problem, it will be the gatherings in pubs and homes to watch, which would have happened anyway. The Olympics doesn't create that.
Florelei · 15/07/2021 07:46

Look I’m just of the view now that we get on with things. Not enough people care anymore for any mitigation measures to actually be useful. Then we’ve got the government and it’s mixed messaging and it’s just a damn recipe for disaster.

Let’s just get through this and hope we and our loved ones don’t die.

But yes I am worried about how bad it’s likely to get. I’m in the north east and practically all of the hospitality venues in my village are closed due to covid.

Imnothereforthedrama · 15/07/2021 07:47

No because people healthy young people aren’t dying of Covid . You get Covid you feel unwell for a few days . It’s more inconvenient to isolate. If you’ve been double jabbed are reasonably well you have nothing to fear now stop with the scaremongering and live your life .

Oblomov21 · 15/07/2021 07:49

I'm not worried. The nhs is not overwhelmed, nowhere near.

Cooldryplace · 15/07/2021 07:53

I think the numbers will be interesting, but I'm not particularly worried.

Cases will definitely increase, as a result of the wider mixing in homes and pubs, not the stadium events IMO. None of the test events showed spikes.

However, with a high % of young people involved and most others vaccinated, I wonder how much of a problem that will actually be.

Bryonyshcmyony · 15/07/2021 07:54

@XenoBitch

More people died from cancer today. Sometimes I do wonder if reporting every daily Covid death figure is actualy helpful.
Agree

But then I'm not glued to the case figures like many on Mumsnet

ImInStealthMode · 15/07/2021 07:54

If it reassures you at all, where I am (semi-contained island community) we have more cases now than we've ever had. Over 1500 in a population of about 110,000 people and rising fast with an estimated R rate of about 2.2.

We currently have 5 positive cases in hospital, not all of whom were admitted because of covid, for some it was picked up on their pre-entry test when going in for something else. If our hospitalisation to case ratio was the same as it had been in the past that figure would be closer to 60.

I think that's really good news, to be honest. I really, really wish they'd stop reporting case numbers when an awful lot of them are either asymptomatic or a bit sniffly. All it does is breed panic.

Watapalava · 15/07/2021 07:58

We really need to stop all this testing now it’s ridiculous

Healthy people should not be getting tested

nordica · 15/07/2021 08:01

@FreekStar2

Every time we allow the NHS to be overrun, the nhs is too overwhelmed to deal with other illnesses

This is nonsense- there have never been so many people in hospital with covid that all the staff from other areas were treating Covid patients. Other illness were on the whole left untreated because patients were encouraged not to go hospital unless it was an absolute dire emergency in order to prevent the spread of Covid. Routine appointments were cancelled and staff not seeing patients. Hospitals have been largely empty apart from the few covid cases in each one. Doctors surgeries have been closed and GPs working from home! The NHS was never overwhelmed.

Hospitals may have looked empty in parts but there is only a limited amount of trained staff to cover ICU for example, and covid patients have to keep completely separate from other patients. You can't have someone in for cancer surgery and then put them in a recovery bed next to someone with covid, or have the same nurses go from the covid ward to the non-covid ward. And many areas of medicine are highly specialised so you can't just bring in a nurse from a different department to look after ICU patients recovering from surgery. This is why they had to cancel other planned surgeries and clinics.

Things were also totally different all through last year before vaccines because staff was getting sick with the same illness they were treating in their patients and huge numbers were off sick. Hopefully this won't happen as much now with most of the staff vaccinated, especially if they change the isolation rules for close contacts.

Warhertisuff · 15/07/2021 08:02

@Getyourjab

Lockdowns have very much stopped other illnesses being treated.

Until a daily tally of deaths due to cancer, heart disease and trauma is published, together with Covid recoveries/ discharge from hospital, please remember this is not balanced in any way.

Out of context daily reporting of COVID statistics are the mind games SPI-B are playing. And I have skin in the NHS game.

I'm not in favour of lockdown returning, but surely it wasn't lockdown that stopped other illnesses being treated - that's ridiculous - it was Covid. Lockdown may have done many things, and had all sorts of negative impacts on society, but it can hardly be blamed for Covid cases rising causing NHS resources to be diverted onto it. It's a bit like saying chemo is making my cancer worse, just because it makes the rest of you feel like shit.
whatswithtodaytoday · 15/07/2021 08:04

@FreekStar2

Every time we allow the NHS to be overrun, the nhs is too overwhelmed to deal with other illnesses

This is nonsense- there have never been so many people in hospital with covid that all the staff from other areas were treating Covid patients. Other illness were on the whole left untreated because patients were encouraged not to go hospital unless it was an absolute dire emergency in order to prevent the spread of Covid. Routine appointments were cancelled and staff not seeing patients. Hospitals have been largely empty apart from the few covid cases in each one. Doctors surgeries have been closed and GPs working from home! The NHS was never overwhelmed.

Errrrr... yes it absolutely was. Clinical staff from other departments were put on Covid wards. They left their own clinics and patients to deal with the enormous numbers of Covid patients, and most of them for Covid themselves.
GlencoraP · 15/07/2021 08:04

@Imnothereforthedrama

No because people healthy young people aren’t dying of Covid . You get Covid you feel unwell for a few days . It’s more inconvenient to isolate. If you’ve been double jabbed are reasonably well you have nothing to fear now stop with the scaremongering and live your life .
Tbh the delta variant doesn’t seem quite like this . Both my sporty active teenage nephews have had over a week in bed ( completely unheard of for the younger in particular ) with it . Very high temps headaches etc and we know several other teenagers who have been completely floored. My vaccinated brother ended up on steroids and high dose antibiotics .

I am very cross that yet again young people are baring the brunt of things. Older people could have waited a bit longer until all the young adults were vaccinated, all the youngsters I know are wearing masks and planing on continuing . As I said earlier very few people are doing LFT for these test events and anyway no one was checking at Wembley

whatswithtodaytoday · 15/07/2021 08:04

*got Covid themselves.

Mrgrinch · 15/07/2021 08:05

No and I won't even be checking them.

Imnothereforthedrama · 15/07/2021 08:07

I never said you weren’t unwell I said people aren’t dying if reasonably well . @glen

Watapalava · 15/07/2021 08:07

Nhs was busy and they moved staff to accommodate but it was never over whelmed

Warhertisuff · 15/07/2021 08:08

@Watapalava

We really need to stop all this testing now it’s ridiculous

Healthy people should not be getting tested

I agree. It should be treated like the flu is... If you're too ill to work, stay home. Otherwise, crack on. If we did this, Covid cases would peak sooner, we'd have more natural immunity alongside vaccination immunity, and we'd go back to low infection levels sooner, which is good for everyone including the CEV.
MyGardenSanctuary · 15/07/2021 08:08

[quote TheLovelinessOfDemons]@Bagelsandbrie Some of us have a legitimate reason to be scared of Covid. My DS1 doesn't want to die at the age of 30. He still could, but if he catches Covid it will be almost a certainty.[/quote]
Then he must also be at risk from many other viruses. Flu, pneumonia, etc. Are you suggesting society should be locked to protect your son?

Remmy123 · 15/07/2021 08:18

No .. don't worry about it and enjoy your life!!!

TantrumsAndBalloons · 15/07/2021 08:20

No because people healthy young people aren’t dying of Covid . You get Covid you feel unwell for a few days . It’s more inconvenient to isolate. If you’ve been double jabbed are reasonably well you have nothing to fear now stop with the scaremongering and live your life

Both me and my DH are double jabbed. Both of us caught Covid 2 weeks ago. I’m fine, got over it really quickly. My DH has been in ICU for the last 3 days after being blue lighted in to hospital on oxygen. Both in our 40s, generally healthy, not CEV and fully vaccinated.

Comments like the one above are untrue, and frankly dangerous. Being vaccinated, being generally healthy, it doesn’t give you a free pass and it doesn’t mean you are going to be OK

GlencoraP · 15/07/2021 08:20

Just to be clear I do believe we have to learn to live with this but I also think that large venues , nightclubs etc , should have been restricted until the adult population double vaccination rates were higher . We have gone through the last 18 months of lockdown and now seem happy throw it all away for the sake of a few weeks .

I am not really bothered by the death rates, it’s long Covid which bothers me both for myself and my young adult dc. They have sacrificed so much over the last year they really don’t need long Covid to ruin the next few. I know the vaccine doesn’t protect against long Covid but lower cases in society because of the transmission effect of vaccines would lower the risk overall.

WASHI · 15/07/2021 08:22

Silly question but… Why will this wave peak and have a natural fall?

Previous waves have required a lockdown in order for them to fall.

Notonthestairs · 15/07/2021 08:22

We are supposed to peak early/mid August aren't we? So yes I'll be keeping an eye on the figures and making choices based on those.

ILookAtTheFloor · 15/07/2021 08:26

The gov should stop publishing the data.

What freedom that would be. How refreshing.

Blissful ignorance.

Newchallenge · 15/07/2021 08:35

After that shift on ICU, I am now.