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Anyone absolutely dreading the figures next week after Wembley

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Homeontherangeuk · 14/07/2021 23:34

49 deaths reported today, 50 yesterday & 42,000 cases plus today, I am feeling very nervous about the weeks ahead... The govt simply have to man up & take ownership of this escalating catastrophe....

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FindingMeno · 15/07/2021 06:36

I am worried about the emergence of a new, more contagious or deadly variant arising with huge case numbers.
We may be OK, unless it's vaccine resistant, but what about the rest of the world with less advanced vaccine programmes?
We are behaving very badly with our vaccine privilege.

SlipperyDippery · 15/07/2021 06:42

I’m not dreading them because I think the government’s plan is to let it spread now before the winter. Given all restrictions are going on Monday, we need to get used to cases rising till this wave reaches its natural peak.

I’m not saying that’s right or wrong, I’m just saying that there’s no point worrying about Wembley given what will be happening from Monday. Cases will rocket with or without Wembley.

Sell out crowd at Wimbledon too but people seem less bothered about that

Iknowtheanswer · 15/07/2021 06:49

The Wembury crowd are probably in yesterday's data. DS knows three boys who were outside. Two tested positive yesterday. The other had covid in March.

Oh, and I'm positive at the moment. It's like a mild head cold - I haven't needed any paracetamol. I wouldn't even have tested, but DH had a temperature so took a test. He also has a cold now.

Warhertisuff · 15/07/2021 06:50

Wembley itself will only be part of the issue ... Far bigger will be the thousands of pubs and house-parties across the country where millions gathered.

All it will have done is accelerated the inevitable though. Herd immunity through a combination of vaccine and infection is the only realistic way through this. Continued suppression isn't feasible.

Cooldryplace · 15/07/2021 06:53

@Iknowtheanswer

The Wembury crowd are probably in yesterday's data. DS knows three boys who were outside. Two tested positive yesterday. The other had covid in March.

Oh, and I'm positive at the moment. It's like a mild head cold - I haven't needed any paracetamol. I wouldn't even have tested, but DH had a temperature so took a test. He also has a cold now.

Hopefully, this will continue for you, but I spent the first week saying "it's just a cold". I've never felt so bad as I did the second week. It was like the worst hangover you've ever had, but it went on for a week. The headache and the nausea...Obviously, I had it mildly compared to what it could have been though.
Warhertisuff · 15/07/2021 06:54

@FindingMeno

I am worried about the emergence of a new, more contagious or deadly variant arising with huge case numbers. We may be OK, unless it's vaccine resistant, but what about the rest of the world with less advanced vaccine programmes? We are behaving very badly with our vaccine privilege.
New variants will continue to arise in the world whatever we do here. Better to have more population immunity through vaccines and infection before that comes. At this stage, we just need to accept that the summer will be full of Covid... and this is the best way to avoid a winter lockdown and further disruption to schools come autumn.
Bagelsandbrie · 15/07/2021 06:55

[quote TheLovelinessOfDemons]@Bagelsandbrie Some of us have a legitimate reason to be scared of Covid. My DS1 doesn't want to die at the age of 30. He still could, but if he catches Covid it will be almost a certainty.[/quote]
Well same for me too - I’m actually in the clinically extremely vulnerable group myself, I have lupus, Addison’s, asthma, pituitary tumour, kidney issues etc. I’ve had both vaccines but because I’m on immunosuppressive medication and steroids I’m not even sure I’ve produced antibodies. I still don’t think we should put our lives on hold forever though. I’m just as likely to die from complications from any of my existing medical conditions as I am from Covid. I don’t want to spend what could potentially be the last leg of my life living in fear.

Blankscreen · 15/07/2021 06:59

I am worried that it's quite late in the summer for a third wave to start and come September when ds starts secondary school we'll be back looking at lockdowns.

Also know someone who went to Wembley he was double jabbed his adult sone was single jabbed they went for the semi final. They now both have covid. They are convinced they got it at Wembley I think the fall out from the football mixing is going to be massive

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Delatron · 15/07/2021 07:06

We want this wave to peak soon. We do not want to keep going in and out of lockdown which artificially suppressed the figures then they inevitably rise sharply every single time we open up.

Cases rising isn’t a bad thing. We want them to peak (hopefully in the next few weeks) then we will get a natural fall. We want this to happen now rather than winter (because unless we stay locked down this will happen, so choose your best time basically).

I’m personally more annoyed about the one rule for men and sport and another for children.

FreekStar2 · 15/07/2021 07:07

Every time we allow the NHS to be overrun, the nhs is too overwhelmed to deal with other illnesses

This is nonsense- there have never been so many people in hospital with covid that all the staff from other areas were treating Covid patients. Other illness were on the whole left untreated because patients were encouraged not to go hospital unless it was an absolute dire emergency in order to prevent the spread of Covid. Routine appointments were cancelled and staff not seeing patients. Hospitals have been largely empty apart from the few covid cases in each one. Doctors surgeries have been closed and GPs working from home! The NHS was never overwhelmed.

Theunamedcat · 15/07/2021 07:10

Apprehensive yes but we need to open up sports just accelerate things

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 15/07/2021 07:16

No , I'm more concerned about the massive increase in anxiety

Mummyoflittledragon · 15/07/2021 07:18

I agree with you. I can well imagine there were a fair few people, who used faked tests. Or maybe tests they took a couple of weeks ago and kept.

My friend is upset because she knows someone, who she suspects was positive from the way they reacted when they came to pick up their ds from her house on Sunday after a play date. Would have lost a lot of revenue from their business Sunday evening had they done an LFT. So tested Monday or Tuesday. The parents were also intending on allowing him to continue to socialise with her ds. She said no way. Now he’s tested positive.

People can be really selfish.

CatherinaJTV · 15/07/2021 07:19

@Theunamedcat

Apprehensive yes but we need to open up sports just accelerate things
"things" like Covid cases?

Opening up while reducing the speed of vaccination is immoral in my opinion.

SuperCaliFragalistic · 15/07/2021 07:22

Wimbledon and the Euros went ahead maskless and in huge numbers to bring money into the country. I'm all for it. We can't continue to stay at home and not be allowed to experience anything fun or enjoy ourselves for years to come. And how will we properly fund the NHS when there's no money. Open up nightclubs, let the festivals go ahead - let young people have these experiences that they've been missing out on.

CatCup · 15/07/2021 07:23

Nope.

GlencoraP · 15/07/2021 07:24

It’s so easy to fake . You don’t even bother to take the test . You just scan the QR for your LFT and then when it asks what the result is you tick false. Apparently thousands of people are doing this.

IceCreamAndCandyfloss · 15/07/2021 07:32

The larger events do worry me re figures but they were outdoors so less risky. I’m more worried about indoor socialising, lack of masks and distancing and the cases coming from education. Not looking forward to the next few weeks or winter.

Moonme · 15/07/2021 07:33

Anecdotally we had a friend go to the game. Out of of the minibus that travelled down half are either self isolating or tested positive

Getyourjab · 15/07/2021 07:36

Lockdowns have very much stopped other illnesses being treated.

Until a daily tally of deaths due to cancer, heart disease and trauma is published, together with Covid recoveries/ discharge from hospital, please remember this is not balanced in any way.

Out of context daily reporting of COVID statistics are the mind games SPI-B are playing. And I have skin in the NHS game.

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Homeontherangeuk · 15/07/2021 07:37

Sorry I didn't mean just Wembley, I meant the whole tournament as a whole... The Olympics are going to be held behind closed doors, no spectators... The euros could have been the same across Europe...

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Blueskytoday06 · 15/07/2021 07:38

No.

AbsolutelyPatsy · 15/07/2021 07:41

as said above, those who attended wembley/wimbledon were tested.
no one tested those in the pubs and homes gathered to watch, in the main, football

Quartz2208 · 15/07/2021 07:41

We can keep on using lockdowns - we simply cant. They are incredibly use

Neither can we look back and th

What we should be doing is forgetting all of this freedom day - it was I think a message that should have been removed once Delta starts. Monday should be about the final unlocking of restrictions and a move into measures.

Starting to live with it with the things that cause the least to no harm. Masks should still be a legal requirement, a sensible plan for self isolation and testing, wfh when you can and sensible with social distancing and how many people you have in your house, test for symptoms and continue to LFT

AbsolutelyPatsy · 15/07/2021 07:43

the issue is, if the children mentioned test positive, what will happen?
the adults have been vaccinated. who is likely to fall ill/become hospitalized.
i agree that people need to take responsibility for themselves