Govt realises that loads of people getting covid might actually be an issue

[noblegiraffe]

Sam Coates of Sky News is tweeting that Whitehall is getting concerned about the sheer number of people who will be having to isolate in the coming days, some from getting covid, and some from having to isolate.

"One source said gvt modelling done under Hancock suggested this scale cd potentially compromise transport and healthcare"

"One government source called this another lockdown by the back door"

twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1413224477450817536?s=21

Apparently the plan is to make the app less sensitive so that fewer people have to isolate.

Stopping isolations increases infections so not necessarily a great solution.

I'm sure all the planning is well in hand though.

I thought it was diet coke? Chaos. I shouldn't be laughing but I think I've reached the point of just being deranged now.

Fruit shoot.

But they have to have a PCR to follow it up. I think all our positive LFTs have returned positive PCRs, so unlike sawing plastic chairs in half with face mask string, this faking LFT Tiktok craze hasn't taken off in my school.

Eh, just like growing up in the 70's, we'll have bodies piling up next, on the good side a loaf of bread would be cheap, and how many mars bars could kids buy.

We're all going to get it, in fact I think I have. Have ordered a test for tomorrow. Never had to do one before, have been really careful, not been anywhere.
I've just come out of about 36 hours of sleep, but I'm feeling ok. Made my bed and had to sit down after. I'm a 55 year old diabetic, so it was either flu or covid as it knocked me out

@Sparklingbrook

Alternatively, people could turn off the contact tracing function

What would be the point of keeping the App without that? There's no requirement to scan QR codes after the 19th to get into places.

There would be none, but people are isolating now when there’s no legal requirement to do so, and it seems to be causing chaos. Guardian today reckons majority of those isolating have been pinged by the app.

If people knew they didn’t have to, the whole nonsense of a working test & trace system would become obvious.

@SonnetForSpring

This pandemic is too complex for the majority to grasp or want to deal with. I don't think we have much hope in defeating it unfortunately. People seem to think it will just kill off all the vulnerable (which isn't them) They have no idea.

And there are far too many people who think the whole thing is a hoax or no worse than a cold. Reading the daily mail comments on any covid article is an eye opener and totally depressing. I think people just can’t handle the uncomfortable truth so have convinced themselves it doesn’t really exist or isn’t as bad as its reported to be.

Guardian today reckons majority of those isolating have been pinged by the app.

Have you got a link because that doesn't sound right.

I would also bet they have no idea how many people pinged by the app actually isolate.

Apart from the useless App what is the other way you’d get instructed to isolate? Is it a call from Test & Trace? How does that happen?
The only people I personally know isolating have been pinged.

Yeah, it's not right. Sky news reporting 350,000 pinged by the app in a week.

In contrast 471,000 pupils self-isolating due to potential contact within school.

If you get covid T&T ask you who your close contacts are and they then phone them.

Well I’ve just got home after turning up to work , only to find that I’ve been pinged on the journey in . Didn’t even make it into the building , as there was a supervisor on the steps with a clipboard , getting us to check our phones . Apparently loads and loads ( I have heard 30 odd rumoured ) have been pinged , the majority of whom are double jabbed , but they are insistent I now have to isolate for 8 days . Which has lost me about £800 in overtime . Thanks for that .

You make over a hundred pounds a day in overtime?

@MapGirlExtraordinaire

I'm sure all the planning is well in hand though

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OP I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but name one bit of pandemic related planning this government have done well. Our non covid related for that matter!

Complete and utter shit show from start to finish.

The Covidiots government are world beating in corruption, mass negligent mismanagement procrastination and literally sleeping on the handjob on the take gaslighting the electorate. Apart from that they are otherwise soooo fit for purpose and just what you need to be entrusted with not just personal corrupt enrichment but to cure our per capita Covid fatalities and long Covid survivors. Oh and perhaps save both lives and livelihoods.

@Foobydoo

On top of that they are thinking of charging for lateral flow tests.

This is a fantastic joke isn't it.

But this government just operate on the basis of issuing crap potential policy statements they think they can get away with.

And then tone it down when people object.

However, that is NOT the same as leadership. Fuck.

@Dustyboots

These are the things I think about because I cannot trust my govt.

I love this phrase. It sums up my mind at the moment. It’s always second guessing and acting like a detective because nothing our government says or does is honest or real.

Me too.

Can we agree that in the UK there is no mandatory requirement to own and use a mobile smartphone in the first place let alone an App which is unfit for purpose!? This might explain why many of us have deleted a useless App as soon as it was immediately known not to work as an excuse to splash billions of out tax payer government borrowing to mates who don’t know what they are doing. To borrow the “leader’s” words - f…ing hopeless! Not sure if Alexander Jonson did also say “I rather see bodies piled high than call a lockdown” or words to that effect either. It does however sums up this bunch of clowns supposedly in charge.

Here we go again.

They'll backtrack soon

If they do it wont be till after Sunday

And the school kids who have discovered that a drop of orange juice on a test gives a positive result and days off school

Wonder how many blokes did that so they could have days off work to watch the football.

All of this hypothetical, the thing the government is ignoring but not the medics is the number of people still awaiting hospital treatment.

@noblegiraffe

OP I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

Hi! We clearly haven't met before, I am definitely being sarcastic!

It feels like they were so busy going 'well cases rising doesn't matter so long as hospitalisations and deaths don't go up massively' that they forgot that people with covid can't go to work.

They were relying on that old chestnut, personal responsibility.

Boris trots out 'personal responsibility' to avoid taking responsibility for when shit goes wrong.

@NannyAndJohn

Here we go again.

Phew thank you for that. It's good to know Matt Spatchcock's departure didn't actually mean a change in direction or anything.

@MercyBooth

They'll backtrack soon If they do it wont be till after Sunday

Yes but the crowds will only have been responsible for a tiny / negligible increase, as shall be reported in media.

maybe they can backtrack as the nation is stunned (with either euphoria or grief) after the next England game

What percentage of double-jabbed people told to isolate end up developing covid? In the US, it's been months since they changed the guidance so that fully-vaccinated people don't have to isolate after exposure.

Anyone else have an awful feeling Hancock will have the last laugh?

That by January people will thinking be Sajid Javid fucked up worse?