Govt realises that loads of people getting covid might actually be an issue

[noblegiraffe]

Sam Coates of Sky News is tweeting that Whitehall is getting concerned about the sheer number of people who will be having to isolate in the coming days, some from getting covid, and some from having to isolate.

"One source said gvt modelling done under Hancock suggested this scale cd potentially compromise transport and healthcare"

"One government source called this another lockdown by the back door"

twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1413224477450817536?s=21

Apparently the plan is to make the app less sensitive so that fewer people have to isolate.

Stopping isolations increases infections so not necessarily a great solution.

I'm sure all the planning is well in hand though.

Well infection rates are shooting up in young people. Maybe if they don't want so many people at home they should consider trying to slow the rate of infections?

Who knows what it will be like after the football.

A bit of good news today

www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccines-highly-effective-in-clinical-risk-groups?fbclid=IwAR2vtcio27AF25iOkz0VDispHQKEAEkHa3Z8bvXWKIwmxlunhbD3zTMV4eA

It is good news, but it's not going to stop it being incredibly disruptive when loads of people catch covid this summer.

@noblegiraffe

It is good news, but it's not going to stop it being incredibly disruptive when loads of people catch covid this summer.

It's very good news for people who are CEV and the people that worry about them. Full stop.

Indeed, but this thread is about the disruption in the summer caused by huge numbers of people catching covid and having to stay at home.

[quote Sparklingbrook]A bit of good news today

www.gov.uk/government/news/covid-19-vaccines-highly-effective-in-clinical-risk-groups?fbclid=IwAR2vtcio27AF25iOkz0VDispHQKEAEkHa3Z8bvXWKIwmxlunhbD3zTMV4eA[/quote]
Brilliant news!

Oh sorry to derail the misery with some good news. Thought it was worth sharing.

I thought so too @TableFlowerss

'Derail misery'

Are we not allowed to discuss how disruptive it will be when loads of people catch covid this summer?

@noblegiraffe

'Derail misery'

Are we not allowed to discuss how disruptive it will be when loads of people catch covid this summer?

I’m not sure what your thread rules are but I just saw the news and wanted to share it as part of the discussion. That’s all. If it helps I agree that it would be very disruptive if loads of people catch Covid this summer too.

I saw it already on another thread about CEV people. It seems a bit irrelevant on this thread which isn't about people potentially getting very sick with covid but is about the spiralling infection rates being a problem even if hospitalisations and deaths remain low.

@noblegiraffe

I saw it already on another thread about CEV people. It seems a bit irrelevant on this thread which isn't about people potentially getting very sick with covid but is about the spiralling infection rates being a problem even if hospitalisations and deaths remain low.

Well in that case I apologise most profusely for posting some good news on your thread.

You mean your attempt to 'derail the misery'?

Do you not think that's a bit patronising about a valid discussion?

@noblegiraffe

You mean your attempt to 'derail the misery'?

Do you not think that's a bit patronising about a valid discussion?

No not really. But I'll leave you to it.

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@SonnetForSpring

I think they have been manipulating us all along and know they are going to have to back track. U turn coming for sure. It's all an elaborate ploy to make it look like they seriously tried.

This is what I think too. We're being primed.

I think it’s more likely that the government are blundering into a mess of their making that they are going to try to style out for as long as possible. See e.g. Christmas.

@noblegiraffe

I think it’s more likely that the government are blundering into a mess of their making that they are going to try to style out for as long as possible. See e.g. Christmas.

Maybe. Although, it's quite upsetting if they are actually that incompetent

It's fucking disturbing rather than quite upsetting in my vocab. It's always been a toss up as to whether they were just totally incompetent or scheming under cover up of just being incompetent.

@noblegiraffe

Well infection rates are shooting up in young people. Maybe if they don't want so many people at home they should consider trying to slow the rate of infections?

Who knows what it will be like after the football.

I never understand the "slow the rate of infections".

They should already be "slowed I guess" because of vaccinations.

What do you really mean by "slow the rate of infections"?
To what?
And what does that achieve in the longer run?
Many more years of ..what exactly?

Yes, light you can see from the graphs where the infection rates have been slowed by vaccinations…and where they haven’t.

And what does that achieve in the longer run?

Well in the short term it would stop a lot of disruption to the businesses where mainly young people work. Retail, hospitality etc. Slowing it down would make it more manageable.

This is starting to stress me out slightly now, it really feels like it's swirling all around again. There are 6 out of 21 classes off at our school and we're getting door to door surge testing starting just down the road from tomorrow.

I understand that people are dying in far lower numbers but it still sounds like you can be really quite unwell which I'd prefer not to happen! I'm really quite concerned what is going to happen when we seemingly throw caution to the wind on 19th, I think I might need to step away from Twitter.

@TokyoSushi I'm also hearing of school bubbles bursting and know several people either isolating or just out of isolation from having it. It's pretty high here and I'm resigned to a summer of isolations, it isn't how I envisaged this summer. It's good the hospitalisations and deaths are very low. I'm worried about long Covid as I know several people with it, one has been ill for a year.

Yes agree about long Covid, my friend tested positive on Christmas Eve and is still unwell now

@noblegiraffe

Yes, light you can see from the graphs where the infection rates have been slowed by vaccinations…and where they haven’t.

And what does that achieve in the longer run?

Well in the short term it would stop a lot of disruption to the businesses where mainly young people work. Retail, hospitality etc. Slowing it down would make it more manageable.

I prefer people to catch it now myself. Better than in winter time. Less people will likely die, if they catch it now.

I also prefer people catching it sooner rather than later in general too. Then perhaps there wont be need for a much longer drawn out catastrophe to the economy.

So I dont want a slower rate of infection.
If it is going to happen, better to happen now, than further down the line.