100,000 cases a day by August....bloody hell

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We're all going to get it eventually it seems

@bondgirl76

Like the flu.eventually we will get immunity..also the vaccinnes are kicking in

Only if future variants remain defeatable by the vaccines…

I wish the government just waited a few weeks to get more people double vaccinated.

However I bet they all wanted to have a proper summer

For PrincessNutsNuts

I'm not interested in the number of cases. The number of deaths and covid patients needing to be admitted to hospital should be the focus. So long as those stats stay low that's all that matters surely.

@Lemonmelonsun

I'm sure I had it (mild last march)

Recently took part in a study and I've got no antibodies.
I've no doubt I will catch it in a higher dose again I just hope when I do ill have access to a hospital

GP told me antibodies are gone within 2-4 months in most. I know several people who got reinfected. Why the UK always has to do things differently is unclear to me.

Yep probably on the basis that most of that category are already dead - it’s all about money

Herd immunity mooo baaa

People where recatching it just different strains like the flu that's why they give flu jabs each year.
Problem is it way more transmissible and deadly than flu.

My point being is we locked down social distanced and had hardly any flu at all and still plenty of covid so the next few months with no masks or social distancing will be interesting for sure.

I’ve been fully vaccinated twice with the Pfizer and then took part in research to see if I’d made antibodies afterwards - Result 0. ..

I feel like a sitting duck now and wish I’d never taken part as it’s left me feeling vulnerable. My question is how many of us like me!!!! All kept quite conveniently!

People can’t even control head lice which is visible and some of you are bitching the government can’t control a virus which is invisible 😂
I am sick of lockdowns they don’t work I am sick of being told what to do when no one knows it’s all bloody guess work . Long COVID how do we know it will last for years it’s a good guess and prove me wrong coz if you know people who have long COVID longer than 5 years I know your a bloody liar . Another month in lockdown to be in the same situation we are now. Let’s stop moaning and get off our fat lazy arses and start living and stop being scared of a sneeze or a cough.

@snowflake29f I think we should open up but actually leave simple things in place like masks.

@keeptheaspidistra

I'm not interested in the number of cases. The number of deaths and covid patients needing to be admitted to hospital should be the focus. So long as those stats stay low that's all that matters surely.

But they won't stay low will they?

The more cases there are, the more hospitalisations and the more deaths there will be.

And our government's recently announced policy is to allow more cases than we've ever seen before.

@BigWoollyJumpers

For PrincessNutsNuts

Those were the days...

Cases numbers are irrelevant, HOSPITALISATIONS numbers are all that matter and the vaccination programme has drastically reduced the risk of ending up in hospital. As for vulnerable people, herd immunity is needed for those, that means vaccination helps them too, as will those that catch it developing natural immunity

Covid is here to stay. We have to learn to live with it, like we live with other virus's. We cant keep shutting everything down, peoples lives are being affected, sucides are going up, deaths from cancer are going up because they havent been able to see their gp, people have lost their buisness and others have lost incomes. Kids are suffering because they cant see their friends or go to school. Enough is enough. I have lost a relative to Covid, so please dont think me hardless by saying this. I am also a health professional who has held peoples hands as they died of Covid because their relatives werent allowed into the hospitals. However the hospital admissions due to Covid are very low at the moment, the lowest they have ever been since all this has started. The vaccination is working. The vaccination dosent stop people from catching it, but it does stop you from being really ill with it. If you have had both vaccinations why cant you live your life ?

It’s not the cases that matter it’s the hospitalization and this is down, stop the scaremongering. If you want to stay locked down forever then be my guest but we are getting back to living!!

order-order.com/2021/07/08/piers-morgans-performative-fake-covid-fears-ignored-by-him-at-wembley/

There will be a lot of posters on here in the months and years to come who have Long Covid or their children have it.

From data so far around 9% of kids have symptoms after 6 months (see the scientific studies from around the world on Long Covid Kids website).

If the UK government is aiming for herd immunity, there will be deaths and long term casualties. Even though the link is weakened, it is not broken - exponentially more cases mean this is inevitable. Which may seem OK to some people - until its their family or friends getting ill etc

'Meanwhile, World Health Organization emergencies director Dr Mike Ryan has urged countries to use extreme caution when reopening their economies from Covid restrictions so as "not to lose the gains you have made".

Asked at a briefing if the UK was aiming for herd immunity, Dr Ryan said: "I'm not aware that that's the logic driving our colleagues in the United Kingdom, I suspect it's not.

He said the argument that it was better to infect more people was morally empty and epidemiologically stupid.'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57755733

@Benediction

"New Zealand has."

Yes but where do they go from here? Keep their borders tight shut and destroy their tourism economy? Or open the borders and accept that covid WILL come in? I have never understood the NZ exit strategy. I mean, I understand that they can get their vulnerable vaccinated and they will have many fewer deaths as a result, but at some point covid is going to rip through their education system as they will have no immunity. And then the rest of the world won't want NZ kids visiting their countries as they will be far more likely to be covid positive as they won't have developed immunity over time.

Does NZ explain their long term strategy anywhere?

I agree, just shutting your borders off completely cannot work in the long term.

@cushioncovers

What's the alternative though? You can't lock down society forever.

Exactly! We need to get on with living with the virus now - the economic costs of continuing restrictions will have a much higher cost to health now than letting it rip over summer. Whilst it will be tough on certain groups of society that is the same for many decisions - we don't keep people in for fear of spreading other viruses/bugs to vulnerable people. We are now in the same situation for this virus - it cannot be contained or controlled now so we just need to get as much immunity in the population as possible.

@MrsBadcrumble123

It’s not the cases that matter it’s the hospitalization and this is down, stop the scaremongering. If you want to stay locked down forever then be my guest but we are getting back to living!!

Hospitalisations "down".

[quote franfranwills]@snowflake29f I think we should open up but actually leave simple things in place like masks.[/quote]
But masks haven’t been stopped , you can still wear your mask if you wish and distance yourself. The point is it’s now your choice. The way the media have covered this story is a complete scare tactic .

@Tessabelle74

Cases numbers are irrelevant, HOSPITALISATIONS numbers are all that matter and the vaccination programme has drastically reduced the risk of ending up in hospital. As for vulnerable people, herd immunity is needed for those, that means vaccination helps them too, as will those that catch it developing natural immunity

Hospitalisations are rising

I hate all this 'why aren't we more like NZ' stuff.
Erm, NZ has a predominantly rural population of just over 5 million in a landmass slightly bigger than the UK.
They are miles away from any other major continent.
Of course they were able to keep Covid out more easily. As previous posters have said, where they go from here is really the more important question.

@snowflake29f did you mean to say eradicate headline because we absolutely do control headline.

Bloody autocorrect - headlice!