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Thoughts on the non-vaccinated!

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UnluckyMe · 04/07/2021 22:31

Why have people been so critical of those who have chosen not to be vaccinated against covid 19?

I've read all sorts of comments about those, like me, who chose not to be vaccinated calling us selfish, uneducated and so on. There seems to be a massive lack of respect for what others choose to do with their body and I'm just curious as go why people feel the need to make comments about it. There are obviously many who don't and I do acknowledge that, my post is more directed to thoughts on why the other side do (feels very playground bully like to me).

The way I see it is everyone has a choice - respect that choice and move on with life rather than throwing insults at one another or dwell on something out of your own control.

I'd also like to confirm i do not own tin foil hat, expect the end of days soon or believe everyone will drop dead in 6 months / will transform into magneto from X-Men (all those coins sticking to people's arms!)

I have followed the rules down to a tee but have just chosen not to be vaccinated at present. Maybe I will change my mind, maybe I won't 🤷‍♀️ who knows.

I am genuinely curious - I read on another post "all vulnerable and sensible people have had the jab" as a comment which riled me a bit too! I like to think I'm pretty sensible but clearly this Mumsnetter thinks otherwise 😆😆

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XenoBitch · 05/07/2021 00:08

@BarbieJ

I’d just think that these people are not especially intelligent. And I’d be right.
No, just terrified here. But of course, you can think anyone who doesn't want the vaccine is thick, but you are wrong. I know HCPs who don't want it.
germainegrainne · 05/07/2021 00:08

Why have you chosen not to vaccinate?

You are not happy to receive the jab yourself but you will benefit by the majority of others doing so. It is selfish unless there is a medical reason, it's a whole community effort.

Whatever reason you have for not wanting the jab, it is not good enough/too risky for you, but to end this pandemic you will rely on the majority of others taking the risk/allowing the vaccine into their body.

Bizawit · 05/07/2021 00:08

I am vaccinated and I’m so grateful for the vaccines. However, I think YANBU op.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 05/07/2021 00:09

@Rillington @Vilanelle me too.
Did anyone respond to you? I didn't see a response. It's almost as if nobody gives a shit...

Duckypoohs · 05/07/2021 00:09

Tbh all the odd rhetoric around this vaccine, like you you can catch diseases, have them in an asymptomatic way, pass them on and so forth. The only benefit being you may not require hospitalisation. Has put me off all vaccines.

Previously I thought that if you had a vaccine that if You came across the disease in the wild, you were immune, the virus could enter your body, but would be nullified by your already primed immune system. If this isn't the case then why bother with any of them HmmConfused

Albien · 05/07/2021 00:09

I don’t want anything to do with selfish tin-foil-hatters. Fair enough if you can’t have the jab, but choosing not to is ridiculous and just demonstrates that you’re not worth wasting my time on.

Albien · 05/07/2021 00:10

But of course, you can think anyone who doesn't want the vaccine is thick, but you are wrong
I disagree. Being thick is exactly why people refuse to be vaccinated.

DownSideUpped · 05/07/2021 00:10

HairyToity

I had no issue with unvaccinated, until a few days ago. A friend has had to miss her sisters wedding this weekend, for which she was meant to be a bridesmaid, after her work colleague (unvaccinated) went down with covid. My friend was a close contact. My friend has had one dose, and hopefully will be okay.

My ex is having to self isolate because his double jabbed colleague (teacher) has tested positive for covid. We also have 3 teachers with covid (all double jabbed) in our local school and all but two year groups in isolation because of them. Double jabbed, all of the ones currently sick with covid, and apparently “very unwell”.

minipie · 05/07/2021 00:10

XenoBitch obviously it’s not a rule. But it would be fair.

LuluJakey1 · 05/07/2021 00:10

My thoughts are that a new strain of Covid will come along and you will all be infected and turn into the undead and we'll have to bring in the military to neutralise you all. At that point we will all be confined to our houses while you roam the streets looking dishevelled, with messy hair and strange gaits looking for vaccinated people to consume their blood.

Duckypoohs · 05/07/2021 00:10

How does herd immunity work if the vaccine does not make you immune. So much conflicting information.

PandemicPalava · 05/07/2021 00:12

@Duckypoohs it lowers the risk of transmission and hospitalisation as the virus bounces from person to person. The vaccinated provide barriers to its travel and severity, so the more there are the less it can travel around society Willy nilly

MsAmerica · 05/07/2021 00:12

I'm surprised you're asking "why," because it seems to me that so much has been said or written about the issue in the media.

The main reason is because, unlike some issues, this potentially affects the larger society. You not only may get it, and infect others, but a large unvaccinated population allows the virus to mutate, possibly into something worse - hence, the Delta variant

I notice you provided no good reason for not being vaccinated, so no reason for anyone to respect your decision. I think you could have made a case for waiting in the first few months, on the chance there was some kind of disaster with the vaccine, but it's been very safe, and very effective.

XenoBitch · 05/07/2021 00:13

@Albien

But of course, you can think anyone who doesn't want the vaccine is thick, but you are wrong I disagree. Being thick is exactly why people refuse to be vaccinated.
I am declining because someone coming at me with a needle will be in danger from me.... not a reaction I can help. But yep, call me thick if you want. I am looking out for my mental health, and for the safety of people around me.
Ratalie · 05/07/2021 00:14

On an individual level, I'd say that anyone refusing to get the vaccine for themselves is doing a poor job of evaluating risk. Contracting covid is a lot riskier than being vaccinated against it.

And the problem is non-vaccinaters affect everyone. The more people who refuse to vaccinate, the longer we'll have to put up with social distancing and the greater the chance of more dangerous variants.

So yes, it feels both stupid and selfish.

gamerchick · 05/07/2021 00:14

One thing was a referendum over a political issue.
The other is a question of of health and ethics - it’s not even as if a 52 - 48 split between vaccinations and non*vaccinations would mean everyone got or didn’t get the virus. The two things aren’t even remotely comparable or similar

I did, because it reminds me of the endless whining that went on. The 2 affected everyone. The endless namecalling that went on and still going on.

Leavers selfish, thick, racist etc. The unvaccinated, thick, selfish and self serving.

It just goes on and on.

XenoBitch · 05/07/2021 00:14

@LuluJakey1

My thoughts are that a new strain of Covid will come along and you will all be infected and turn into the undead and we'll have to bring in the military to neutralise you all. At that point we will all be confined to our houses while you roam the streets looking dishevelled, with messy hair and strange gaits looking for vaccinated people to consume their blood.
Sounds like where I live anyway Grin
Genderwitched · 05/07/2021 00:15

I personally don't think that any pressure should be put upon people to have the vaccination if they don't want it, but it is definitely a selfish decision. Why can't people just own it.

It's selfish, it is putting your own feelings before the good of the many. If I hadn't had it through personal choice I would consider myself selfish and make peace with that. You are just being defensive Op, because you know that you are selfish and you are uncomfortable with it.

MercyBooth · 05/07/2021 00:15

How many times have the Tories been voted back in since Grenfell?
How many ppl are still living in places with dangerous cladding? Or are having to live in hotel rooms because they have been forced out of their homes for this reason? Someone i know is having to live in a hotel room with her two young sons because of it.

So people can fuck off with their "for the community" crap.

Duckypoohs · 05/07/2021 00:16

Ok so there isn't herd immunity (which existed before for some reason, but not now) but the vaccine only lessens symptoms? Is that right?

gnushoes · 05/07/2021 00:17

You've chosen not to be vaccinated but will benefit from the freedom others' vaccination will deliver to you. How is that laudable? Please forgive me if I think you're more CF than freethinker. You've got the freedom to refuse the jab and in return I have the freedom to think what I like about you. You can't have it both ways.

name4change · 05/07/2021 00:19

because all the people i know who are refusing their vaccine invitation are all convinced Bill Gates will be monitoring them sitting on their arses watching the telly and/or moaning about their rights

Duckypoohs · 05/07/2021 00:19

Because I'm pretty sure they have said that they don't know if lessens transmission.

Maybe that would make everything worse, if a person without symptoms went about spreading it everywhere.

I'm sorry but none of this makes sense.

ClareBlue · 05/07/2021 00:20

And excluding people from certain activities based on their health status is well established in law and is not a human right.
Food handlers are prevented from working if they have infectious diseases, driving is dependent on your health, using machines, etc etc etc. It is just normalused to an extent we accept it. Could easily become normalused with vaccines.
And we already accept certain vaccine requirements to travel. That really is not a new idea at all. Yellow fever vac anyone? Malaria? There's plenty of Countries you wouldn't get into now without certain vaccinations.

DownSideUpped · 05/07/2021 00:20

gnushoes

You've chosen not to be vaccinated but will benefit from the freedom others' vaccination will deliver to you.

Which freedoms would those be?