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No masks after 19th July - Hoo-blardy-Ray!!!!!

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TeddingtonTrashbag · 01/07/2021 06:54

As reported in the DM.
So happy if it’s true.

No masks after 19th July - Hoo-blardy-Ray!!!!!
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ilovesooty · 05/07/2021 19:55

@Xenia

Yes and restrictions go on freedom day.

As for the tube I don't know yet. My daughter says the Evening standard tonight was anticipating masks on the tube would go (in the compulsory sense). She and I don't mind a special carriage for mask wearers to use if they want to separate from others actually for those trains which have separate carriages.,

Why does it bother you to share a carriage with people choosing to wear a mask?
puppeteer · 05/07/2021 20:29

@NotSoRealSlimShadyStandingUp

Maybe I am reading or watching something different.

All I got from the press conference was:

Look you lot, we have given you the jabs that will save your lives. The vast majority of young people will carry it, but not be ill with it. They are the ones making up the numbers now. We may vaccinate them, we are thinking about it. However, all you other lot, if you haven't got your life saving jab then that is your problem. Now it is time to get out and if you catch it, it will probably be very mild (if you are jabbed) and you'll just have to suck it up. We are letting it rip through the country now. We have no other choice. We need to let it rip, let people catch it and fight it off with their jabs and get on with life.

Isn't anyome else hearing this?

Kinda.

But what it misses is that, if they tried to suppress it now, it'd probably only be possible until the September school term. And after that, we'll get covid and the predicted bad flu season on top of each other.

Put simply, autumn is going to be tricky even with a decent amount of herd immunity behind us. At least by opening up now, we get covid and then flu in train, but not on top of each other.

What does it mean for those that are vulnerable, and can't be protected? And probably it means you should be quite cautious for a while, but hopefully by end August, infection numbers will be well on their way down.

But if you're concerned, but not actually vulnerable, I'd suggest to but best foot forward, and push on through it.

The logical alternative seems to be to stay hunkered down until spring or summer next year.

I think summary is you got it about right though. But it's time for a bit of straight talking, don't you think?

Parker231 · 05/07/2021 20:33

The unions for the London buses and Tube are saying that masks must remain so I imagine they will. It’s no hardship to wear a mask for the journey to and from the office.

Chillychangchoo · 05/07/2021 20:40

@NotSoRealSlimShadyStandingUp

That’s what I’m hearing. I do hope it’s what they are conveying.

Blossomtoes · 05/07/2021 20:41

@Parker231

The unions for the London buses and Tube are saying that masks must remain so I imagine they will. It’s no hardship to wear a mask for the journey to and from the office.
You think Johnson will capitulate to unions?
Parker231 · 05/07/2021 20:45

Yes - Johnson wants everyone back at work and the unions will just go on strike.

mrshoho · 05/07/2021 20:46

he'd love nothing more than to put the decision in the hands of the unions. It will be "The big bad unions are the ones making you wear a face mask" as opposed to our sensible, pragmatic government who want to give us free choice.

MarshaBradyo · 05/07/2021 20:47

@Parker231

The unions for the London buses and Tube are saying that masks must remain so I imagine they will. It’s no hardship to wear a mask for the journey to and from the office.
They’ve said this recently?
TeddingtonTrashbag · 05/07/2021 20:49

She and I don't mind a special carriage for mask wearers to use if they want to separate from others actually for those trains which have separate carriages
Good idea!

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Blossomtoes · 05/07/2021 20:49

It looks as if most people are reluctant to go back to the office so would probably welcome a transport strike, it certainly wouldn’t have the effect it had prepandemic.

Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 20:58

The unions for the London buses and Tube are saying that masks must remain so I imagine they will. It’s no hardship to wear a mask for the journey to and from the office.

It's unsurprising that they want masks to continue. Quite a lot of London transport workers have died. They deserve the protection of passengers wearing masks. It's not as if it's much to ask. Doesn't stop anything opening up. In fact it helps as it reduces staff sickness.

Xenia · 05/07/2021 21:14

I have no problems sharing carriages with people in masks at all. I just meant for those who do not want to be among those with no masks on we could have a separate carriage for them. When i first came to London in the 1980s you could smoke on station platforms (horrible) and there was on carriage on each tube for smokers which was crammed. I always tried to avoid even the platform outside that carriage as it was so smokey.

My tube station has a women's only waiting room and a mixed one which is a really nice old fashioned idea. I have turfed men out of the women's one in my time.

Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 21:21

It would make more sense to have a carriage for the maskless than the other way round. By the sounds of it a sizeable proportion of the general public don't want to kill or disable other people, and would prefer to wear masks.

However, a maskless carriage puts transport staff at risk. In London hundreds of transport workers have been killed by Covid. They should have the right to a safe working environment.

Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 21:23

There's a big difference between smoking and Covid. Covid costs that economy. Smoking brings in a net gain.

Honey12346 · 05/07/2021 21:52

@Tealightsandd

It would make more sense to have a carriage for the maskless than the other way round. By the sounds of it a sizeable proportion of the general public don't want to kill or disable other people, and would prefer to wear masks.

However, a maskless carriage puts transport staff at risk. In London hundreds of transport workers have been killed by Covid. They should have the right to a safe working environment.

I think you're in for a shock soon when you see how quickly people will ditch their masks
Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 21:54

I agree that lots will ditch them Honey
And transport workers will have my full support if they decide to strike.

Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 21:57

Perhaps instead of a strike, they should hold a mass smoking event on board their trains and buses. Exercising their freedom of personal responsibility via an activity that boosts our damaged economy.

FaithfullyYours · 05/07/2021 21:59

I agree with @Honey12346..
A sizeable proportion of the public have ALREADY ditched masks if anything...

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 22:00

@Tealightsandd you are simply obsessed with your smoking argument Grin

Unsure33 · 05/07/2021 22:04

One size does not fit all and the government are letting individual companies make their own assessments and recommendations.

So the way I understand it public transport could insist on masks if they want to .

As a company owner we will do our own risk assesment as it is still a public health threat.

Unfortunately I think that wearing of masks will reduce a lot , not because of the risk calculation but because some people just don’t like being told what to do .

Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 22:04

Grin I am a bit! I don't even smoke anymore (but I'm willing to have a couple for the sake of personal choice, freedom, and the economy). 🚬

Tealightsandd · 05/07/2021 22:07

I think nicotine has anti inflammatory properties. Does anyone know what happened with that French study on nicotine patches for treating Covid?

Timeisavirtue · 05/07/2021 22:31

Actually more excited about this than Christmas 😊 yes I lead a boring life

TheVampiresWife · 05/07/2021 22:36

@Tealightsandd

Grin I am a bit! I don't even smoke anymore (but I'm willing to have a couple for the sake of personal choice, freedom, and the economy). 🚬
I gave up 12 years ago but there have been times in the last year when I've been desperate for a cig. Might join you on one of your smoking trains Grin
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