No masks after 19th July - Hoo-blardy-Ray!!!!!

[TeddingtonTrashbag]

As reported in the DM.
So happy if it’s true.

[quote TheVampiresWife]@Thelm how are people supposed to know who needs more space though?[/quote]
Won’t they be wearing a mask? I’ll happily give mask wearers a wide berth.

Sky News are reporting mask wearing will be personal choice. Thank fuck!!!

Sorry @TheVampiresWife, I see the thread’s moved on and my last comment is completely irrelevant.

Personally, I will be binning my mask and won't be social distancing with friends and family (though tbh I haven't done that for a while anyway)

But I do respect others have a different view and so In will keep my distance in shops etc and if I see someone wearing a mask, I'll respect their personal space

I wouldn't bin the masks as it looks like we most likely have to wear them at places like hospitals and places like this so guessing GPs and dentist waiting rooms, I'm quite happy with that as long as I don't have to wear one in general life.

I’ve never liked people getting in my personal space even pre Covid why wouldn’t you social distance anyway ? As for masks can’t wait to not have to wear one . If you want to wear one great but I won’t if I don’t have to .

[quote TheVampiresWife]@Thelm I think that when SD ends perhaps the sunflower lanyard could be used for its original purpose - a signifier that extra assistance/consideration is required by the wearer and that could mean SD. I've also seen sashes/lanyards requesting distancing. If those who needed to keep their distance wore something like that only the biggest twat imaginable wouldn't respect it. The majority of people won't be bothered with distancing - they weren't arsed with personal space before the pandemic/restrictions and they certainly won't be after.[/quote]
You must be joking. So you're suggesting mask refusers could now expect others to consider their feelings when they have not considered other's feelings?! I've ironically always found the mask refusers to be the ones to break SD when in shops. As if they think SD doesn't apply to them either for some reason.

Heres an idea. Rather than lanyards etc we all just act responsibly and with consideration.

@TheVampiresWife - sounds very sensible.
@JaniieJones - 'mask refusers'? People are not refusing to wear a mask, they are exempt for various reasons. And if restrictions are lifted there will be no such thing as 'mask refusers', simply people getting on with their lives. Wear your mask if you want, but then please respect people who don't. In an ideal world we would all respect everyone, but people had problems with things long before Covid and if by wearing a lanyard it enables someone to perhaps become a wee bit more independent and allows them to maybe get help when needed, be it with SD or whatever, then that would be a good thing.

@JaniieJones you've been very vocal regarding your feelings about mask exempt people in the past. And you've also been very vocal about how there are hardly any grounds for exemption.

What's strange is that on a few mask threads at the moment people are saying that those who are exempt tend to respect SD. So clearly your experience isn't universal.

From 19 July there will be no such thing as 'mask refusers' and being mask exempt will be a thing of the past anyway, because nobody will have to wear one. Thank god. Many people are excited at the prospect of burning their masks - I cannot wait to set fire to my lanyard!

Oh and incidentally - the arseholes who have piled abuse on those who cannot masks over the past year (on here, and in real life) have definitely not been 'considered others' feelings'. Not a bit of it.

"mask refusers"....hilarious.

It is not the law, nor has it ever been.
The data on whether or not is makes a difference is dubious.
Most people don't even keep the damn thing clean.

@sadperson16

No - the scientific evidence is clear now that they do make a difference.

'Wear your mask if you want, but then please respect people who don't.'

No one 'wants to' wear one. However in a public health crisis rules and advice had to be followed for a good reason. Now I didn't ever challenge anyone who didnt/wouldn't although it was irritating there were so many of them. I have a disabled relative and Deaf friends so I have compassion and absolute understanding for those with actual challenges.

To suggest a lanyard so others keep their distance when most people do would seem very ironic.

@JaniieJones

'Wear your mask if you want, but then please respect people who don't.'

No one 'wants to' wear one. However in a public health crisis rules and advice had to be followed for a good reason. Now I didn't ever challenge anyone who didnt/wouldn't although it was irritating there were so many of them. I have a disabled relative and Deaf friends so I have compassion and absolute understanding for those with actual challenges.

To suggest a lanyard so others keep their distance when most people do would seem very ironic.

It's only ironic in as much as that's what mask exempt people have been told to do for a year, and now the boot is on the other foot some people don't like it.

I'm sorry you find disabled people/those with health conditions so irritating. I'd suggest however that this is your issue, not ours.

'And you've also been very vocal about how there are hardly any grounds for exemption.'

Well yes. Anecdotally I've heard people who think they're exempt because they were diagnosed as having asthma as a dc but have never used an inhaler or had any breathlessness/seen a doctor about it since. Tbh asthma in itself is not exacerbated by a thin piece of material anyway. I've heard people who say face covers 'give them anxiety'. I mean come on, use a visor! they're a pair of glasses with a thin shield attached. Of course everyone will now say they have trigeminal neuralgia despite it being vanishingly rare.

Those with extreme mh issues or dementia, autism etc of course shouldn't have to wear them. We all know a lot of people makes excuses though.

'I'm sorry you find disabled people/those with health conditions so irritating.'

Please read my posts. I have a severely disabled relative and Deaf friends. I absolutely support and encourage them 100%.

Anywayyy role on 19th July yes let's have a lanyard and mask burning party.

@JaniieJones 'I've heard people who say face covers 'give them anxiety' I mean come on, use a visor! they're a pair of glasses with a thin shield attached'

YOU, and people like you are the very reason I have anxiety. You do not have a bloody clue! Mental Health is a very real thing, and unless you have suffered I would not expect you to have a clue. It's pure ignorance or your part. And there are varying degrees of asthma. Some with it can manage a mask but some others cant. You are not judge and jury. You cant decide who should wear one or not. You seem to almost be belittling these people as if they are making their problems up. You look after you.

Tbh asthma in itself is not exacerbated by a thin piece of material anyway. I've heard people who say face covers 'give them anxiety'. I mean come on, use a visor! they're a pair of glasses with a thin shield attached. Of course everyone will now say they have trigeminal neuralgia despite it being vanishingly rare

Some people's asthma may not be exacerbated by a thin piece of material, some people's may be.

Your understanding of anxiety leaves a lot to be desired.

Not everyone can wear a visor, either (if only I had 50p for every time I've typed this over the past year!).

As a TN sufferer myself I can assure you 'everyone' won't be saying they have it because hardly anyone has heard of it.

Happily you don't get to decide whose reasons for exemption are extreme enough. And soon, it won't matter what you think about exemptions anyway.

I have a disabled relative and Deaf friends so I have compassion and absolute understanding for those with actual challenges

No you have compassion and understanding for those you know with "actual challenges"....you have zero compassion or understanding for those whose challenges you know fuck all about.

Sounds like a (now former) friend who told another friend with an autistic daughter who also has severe anxiety that if his 80 year old mother can wear a mask, there is zero excuse for anyone and if her daughter isn't capable of doing the right thing (his exact words) the she needs to stay at home and get someone else to do her shopping for her. Then said to my mate 'why on earth can't you just get her shopping - problem solved'

@SamW98

Sounds like a (now former) friend who told another friend with an autistic daughter who also has severe anxiety that if his 80 year old mother can wear a mask, there is zero excuse for anyone and if her daughter isn't capable of doing the right thing (his exact words) the she needs to stay at home and get someone else to do her shopping for her. Then said to my mate 'why on earth can't you just get her shopping - problem solved'

They always bang on about shopping, don't they. As if that's the only reason anyone needs to go out.

I've been told countless times on here 'If my uncle with COPD/grandad with asthma/cat with measles can wear a mask there's no excuse for anyone not to'. I'd love to see their faces if I had a TN attack in Sainsbo's, lost consciousness and pissed myself in front of them.

[quote Hornbill123456789]@sadperson16

No - the scientific evidence is clear now that they do make a difference.[/quote]
No, only the specific, hospital style ones which are expensive and hard to get. The cloth and disposable ones do not.

@JaniieJones

'And you've also been very vocal about how there are hardly any grounds for exemption.'

Well yes. Anecdotally I've heard people who think they're exempt because they were diagnosed as having asthma as a dc but have never used an inhaler or had any breathlessness/seen a doctor about it since. Tbh asthma in itself is not exacerbated by a thin piece of material anyway. I've heard people who say face covers 'give them anxiety'. I mean come on, use a visor! they're a pair of glasses with a thin shield attached. Of course everyone will now say they have trigeminal neuralgia despite it being vanishingly rare.

Those with extreme mh issues or dementia, autism etc of course shouldn't have to wear them. We all know a lot of people makes excuses though.

'I'm sorry you find disabled people/those with health conditions so irritating.'

Please read my posts. I have a severely disabled relative and Deaf friends. I absolutely support and encourage them 100%.

Anywayyy role on 19th July yes let's have a lanyard and mask burning party.

You have no idea about my asthma or how it’s affected so you can get lost on your judgment on that. You are not medically qualified so your uneducated opinions means nothing.

Thrilled by the confirmation this morning - couldn't be happier and there will be no going back. So much of this has been totally unnecessary and those that want to lock themselves away and wear masks and obsess over the behaviour of others can crack on. I'm sure a new crisis will arrive any day now for them to froth at the mouth about. Outside of mumsnet I don't know a single person who isn't looking forward to burning their masks!

'You cant decide who should wear one or not.'

No, sadly I can't. I've been extremely tolerant in the last year and have not even glared at a refuser who is invading my space and many do! Why?!

My comments were in response really to a pp's suggestion that now the boot is on the other foot and those who have refused now will be faced with everyone else not wearing them they want a special note asking them to keep their distance. The irony.

We can all be considerate we don't need badges.

I assume it'll be the same for SD discounts
But how do you get a SD card? On what grounds? According to some of the very unkind posts on here people are ‘mask refusers’ no tolerance of the reason why.
A person disabled in one context is not in another. A person with reduced mobility is not necessarily vulnerable to Covid or unable to be vaccinated.

@JaniieJones

'You cant decide who should wear one or not.'

No, sadly I can't. I've been extremely tolerant in the last year and have not even glared at a refuser who is invading my space and many do! Why?!

My comments were in response really to a pp's suggestion that now the boot is on the other foot and those who have refused now will be faced with everyone else not wearing them they want a special note asking them to keep their distance. The irony.

We can all be considerate we don't need badges.

I didn't say I wanted those who require SD to carry a 'special note' though, did I. I responded to a poster who wondered how those who require others to SD might convey that, and suggested a lanyard or sash (both widely available) might be a solution.

And please stop lumping exempt people in with 'refusers'. Also, lol at you claiming to be 'extremely tolerant'.