19th July is looking hopeful 😊

[Baileysforchristmas]

We can live on hope

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57643694

@MarshaBradyo

I and many other people will no longer be frequenting business when we have no masks and thousands of new infections a day! No thanks! So it won’t help businesses at all.

You’re not going to go into any shops / restaurants / not go inside except home?

Plenty of people won't, even fully vaccinated, CV is a nasty illness, I listened to Andrew Marrs description of his experience of CV.

With millions of new infections over the next few months, a small %

ending up very ill will screw the NHS, including staff off sick

It doesn’t matter that a few randomers on the internet won’t go to restaurants etc
The fact is ordinary punters are queuing up.
They open football stadia and every ticket is sold out (I had to pay 500 quid for a premiership match for next season).
Ditto gig. Festivals. Plays.
Bet Edinburgh Fringe will be hugely well attended.
I was in Manchester yesterday and I couldn’t get a walk in lunch table. All booked solid. Ended up with a sarnie

@HelloMissus

It doesn’t matter that a few randomers on the internet won’t go to restaurants etc The fact is ordinary punters are queuing up. They open football stadia and every ticket is sold out (I had to pay 500 quid for a premiership match for next season). Ditto gig. Festivals. Plays. Bet Edinburgh Fringe will be hugely well attended. I was in Manchester yesterday and I couldn’t get a walk in lunch table. All booked solid. Ended up with a sarnie

Exactly!

A timbuktu variant will pop up on 15 July .. .

40,000 fans due to watch the match tonight.
Obviously all very very concerned about coming into context with others.

@HelloMissus I agree, I do wonder how people live on mumsnet, living under a rock somewhere. it’s hard to get a reservation in certain restaurants in London, the trains are heaving, a lot of people not wearing masks, London will be so busy the next couple of weeks with football and Wimbledon, there are many areas set up to welcome them.

@HelloMissus

It doesn’t matter that a few randomers on the internet won’t go to restaurants etc The fact is ordinary punters are queuing up. They open football stadia and every ticket is sold out (I had to pay 500 quid for a premiership match for next season). Ditto gig. Festivals. Plays. Bet Edinburgh Fringe will be hugely well attended. I was in Manchester yesterday and I couldn’t get a walk in lunch table. All booked solid. Ended up with a sarnie

Yep we’ll see big demand, we already are. I think nearly everyone will be happy about it, bar a few on here

Plenty of people won't, even fully vaccinated, CV is a nasty illness, I listened to Andrew Marrs description of his experience of CV.

I doubt the people who will allegedly lock themselves up indefinitely - even if fully vaccinated - were the type of people who frequently went out even pre-pandemic.

In any case, they are the minority. Wimbledon and Wembley are as full as they're allowed to be. Same with shops, pubs, restaurants and so on. There's a huge desire to get back to normal, and that doesn't mean masks and 'distancing'. It means normal.

I think some posters just keep repeating the same things whether true or not.
So whenever concerns about livelihoods are raised, they’ll keep saying - well people won’t go during a pandemic anyway. Yet the very same posters will bemoan the football. Or a demonstration. Or the raves allowed to go ahead. Or eat out to help out.
So they know really that people will attend and indeed are attending anything they can. But they can’t change their initial viewpoint.

@Baileysforchristmas

We should have burn your mask day 😊

I hope they come up with a plan for schools soon that children only isolate if they have a positive test, 100’s of healthy kids off school is ridiculous.

I agree.

100's of perfectly healthy children off school here too.

I was out in Glasgow on Saturday and everywhere was heaving. I don't believe for one second that people will stay away once restrictions are removed...in fact the opposite.

@RoseRedRoseBlue

For me, ‘Freedom Day’ means a return to ALL things as they were pre-Covid. This includes international travel, not having to isolate, not having to be tested at the drop of a hat, GP’s letting people into the surgery and so forth. I just can’t see all this changing in 3 weeks time. At best, we will be offered a watered down version of what used to be and told to be grateful 😐.

Absolutely this

@99victoria

Well, we're off to Greece at the weekend - they're still happy to have us :)

Have a lovely time.

This no-one will want us is rubbish of course. It suits some of the hide under a rock forever brigade though. If people want to stay at home/wear masks/not use business/theatre/sports events then don't but stop denying the rest of us. I suspect many of those never did much anyway.

Hong Kong have announced they don’t want us!

Yes i think you are right Iced

Its just something we were talking about as we sat outside having a few drinks last night, hugs, 10 or 12 to a table, masks just to go inside to the 'loo.
2m was more like 20cm!

But it was remarkable the numbers of previously regular older people who stay away now and who have complained about the lack of SD recently.

No where i go takes any notice of SD after a few drinks

But that doesn't make it the right course of action.

@ineedaholidaynow

Hong Kong have announced they don’t want us!

May have more to do with politics than public health.

What about the other 200 or so countries in the world? What are they doing? The EU and UK are supposedly nearing agreement on 'vaccine passports, despite Markle's attempts to the contrary. Many countries very much want British holidaymakers, despite what some here are desperate to believe.

I absolute love travelling both for leisure and work, but I do wonder whether it might be better to keep all the summer pounds at home this year.
So many businesses could do with the bump.

But it was remarkable the numbers of previously regular older people who stay away now and who have complained about the lack of SD recently.

"SD" costs hospitality massive amounts of money, so even if a minority 'stay away' it will still be worth it to them.

Are these people never going to go out again? I doubt it.

Doesn't matter what other countries are doing, on return from the vast majority of countries you need to isolate and pay for very expensive tests.
One reason the EU is introducing restrictions, we don't allow them to come here freely vaxxed or not, so why should they allow us?

"SD" costs hospitality massive amounts of money, so even if a minority 'stay away' it will still be worth it to them

Agree, is wrecking their business model.

Are these people never going to go out again? I doubt it

If you knew some of them, you'd hope!

@TheVampiresWife

I and many other people will no longer be frequenting business when we have no masks and thousands of new infections a day

Seeing how busy pubs are suggests that you're quite wrong. Many people have avoided doing things like high street shopping/going to the cinema etc because they've felt so uncomfortable wearing masks for hours to do so. Once they're gone, people will return to shops/cinemas/museums etc in their droves, I think.

And there's nothing stopping you wearing one if you want to!

You won't be able to go down the pub if the owners are isolating as part of the 100000+ cases.

Some of the ramblings of certain posters to scare people in staying home just sound ridiculous now, it’s just not going to happen, wait until the photos of a packed out London are on here tomorrow. I hope we win, everything crossed.

@HelloMissus

I absolute love travelling both for leisure and work, but I do wonder whether it might be better to keep all the summer pounds at home this year. So many businesses could do with the bump.

Most places are booked up so a lot of people are already doing that.

Those that are going overseas are also paying into the UK economy too though.

100k + now is it 😆