19th July is looking hopeful 😊

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We can live on hope

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57643694

@Watapalava

They hadn’t offered all vaccine then

To delay after 19 July offers no benefit which is why they are so set on it

But they haven't offered everyone a vaccine - nothing for under 18s yet.

Under 18 have more chance of being killed by a lion I’m sure

Deaths are minuscule

@BashStreet1 - was your area in advanced measures previously?

The Usual Suspects of course applies to the other side too. The let the bodies pile up crew.

Now. Back to normal. Will that include return to the office? Because it's needed. From a customer and client perspective (standards have significantly worsened), and because the office based economy contributes billions and billions to the national economy. It's the same abroad. It's why the Bank of America has asked businesses to end WFH.

Also just like schools need catch up sessions, so does taxpayer funded Parliament. If it's safe for Joe public to 'return to normal', it's safe for a full refund of Parliament. With summer recess suspended or delayed to catch up.

@Watapalava

If cases double by 19/7, then we will see approx 3000 hospitalisations each week.

Now i am not saying that is a reason to stop easing of restrictions, i just don't think we can go into Autumn, with many 1000s being hospitalized by CV, nhs doesnt have the means to cope and do other stuff and catch on the last 16months.

With zero rrstrictions Cv will infect most of the population, just a tiny % in hospital will cause issues.

But fuck knows what the ans is?

@Watapalava

Under 18 have more chance of being killed by a lion I’m sure

Deaths are minuscule

What about CV / CEV children @Watapalava ?

Did I not read that the 20,000+ cases todays were partly yesterdays figures too due to a technical error yesterday? So again case numbers aren't an issue. Not that they are anyway as its hospitalisations and deaths that matter not the many many mild and asymptomatic cases there are. Also the big uptake of vaccines is a big factor that matters too, not bloody case numbers.

@OrangeBananaFish

Did I not read that the 20,000+ cases todays were partly yesterdays figures too due to a technical error yesterday? So again case numbers aren't an issue. Not that they are anyway as its hospitalisations and deaths that matter not the many many mild and asymptomatic cases there are. Also the big uptake of vaccines is a big factor that matters too, not bloody case numbers.

Yes, was higher than usual due to an error in reporting this weekend.

I don’t think the government can keep restrictions after the 19th July, as the general public will be in uproar, most people who have been vaccinated aren’t worried anymore, young people want to get back to normal jab or no jab.

@IcedPurple

I'm not sure how well this thread could CARRIE that off, tbh

Maybe it would be wise for them to go incognito?

🤣🤣🤣🤣 you guys 🤣🤣🤣 bless you, So funny.

Pink

Same - Hardly any cev kids have died in whole uk

As for hospitalisations, are people ignoring the fact we are vaccinating the hell out of the country?! It’s unbeliveable - Citing such high cases even as protection in going up and up? Don’t forget not all people in hospital are seriously ill

The fact overall hospitalisations has hardly risen seems to have gone unnoticed - 200 may be admitted per day but they must be in and out as the number in hospital has hardly changed

There as re approx 1500 people with covid in uk hospitals and there are 2000 hospitals!

Given 200 are going in per day they must be in for only a day or so and leaving otherwise numbers would be huge and rising massively and they are not in any way

Gone are the days of people hogging icu beds

@OrangeBananaFish

Did I not read that the 20,000+ cases todays were partly yesterdays figures too due to a technical error yesterday? So again case numbers aren't an issue. Not that they are anyway as its hospitalisations and deaths that matter not the many many mild and asymptomatic cases there are. Also the big uptake of vaccines is a big factor that matters too, not bloody case numbers.

The doubling time remains the same regardless.

The Usual Suspects of course applies to the other side too. The let the bodies pile up crew

Nobody on here has suggested that. Only our esteemed PM.

Rather wonderfully, the bodies aren't piling up, despite infections being as high as they were when deaths were reaching a thousand a day previously. Even after months of very highly transmissible Delta being in the UK. Even after weeks of lockdown being eased.

Yay, a positive Coronavirus post. Fewer than 1 in every 1000 cases causing death now - looking v positive. Let's keep everything crossed (and keep being careful) for the next few weeks.

@MarshaBradyo

Wasn’t it 100k on June 21

With a doubling time of what? So we’re even further away from that

The Warwick model diversion is also good to see.

Glad others have said hospitalisation is now the key metric, finally

Nanny is now saying 100k a day by 19th July now.

As someone said previously, if they keep flinging out the predictions 1 might turn out to be correct (and won't we hear about that) 🙄

@LostThings

Yay, a positive Coronavirus post. Fewer than 1 in every 1000 cases causing death now - looking v positive. Let's keep everything crossed (and keep being careful) for the next few weeks.

I read today that it was 0.08% of all cases result in death - obviously any death is too many but this is such a dramatic drop from what was already a pretty low mortality rate.

It's really, really positive news!

I stopped doing these restrictions long ago whenever possible.

But @Watapalava CEV kids were shielding for much of the time. They aren't now, but bear in mind that until recently numbers were low, plenty of restrictions are still in place, schools are still isolating close contacts etc.
I am not suggesting everything has to stay is it is, but I don't think anyone appreciates how upsetting and worrying it is to realise that absolutely no one is considering our kids in all of this. Just a little bit of empathy would go a long way.

@TheVampiresWife

The Usual Suspects of course applies to the other side too. The let the bodies pile up crew

Nobody on here has suggested that. Only our esteemed PM.

Rather wonderfully, the bodies aren't piling up, despite infections being as high as they were when deaths were reaching a thousand a day previously. Even after months of very highly transmissible Delta being in the UK. Even after weeks of lockdown being eased.

Except that they have piled up. Very high. Then there's the huge numbers (and growing) disabled with Long Covid.

Experts are warning against failure to suppress and contain. Warning what will happen (again) if the increasing cases, hospitalisations, and deaths are ignored by the UK. Again. But in the UK it's deja vu deja vu. Again and again and again.

Still on the bright side, there's some good news... If you live abroad. Countries are rushing to restrict travel from here. Very sensible decision. They want to keep us and our high level of Delta infections out. The UK is a high risk country.

But in the UK it's deja vu deja vu. Again and again and again.

Some might say the same about your posts.

@pinkpip100

But *@Watapalava* CEV kids were shielding for much of the time. They aren't now, but bear in mind that until recently numbers were low, plenty of restrictions are still in place, schools are still isolating close contacts etc. I am not suggesting everything has to stay is it is, but I don't think anyone appreciates how upsetting and worrying it is to realise that absolutely no one is considering our kids in all of this. Just a little bit of empathy would go a long way.

It's absolutely appalling that we're not prioritising CEV and CV children for vaccination. Or at least those over 12s (until vaccines are approved for the younger ones).

@IcedPurple

But in the UK it's deja vu deja vu. Again and again and again.

Some might say the same about your posts.

Some might say the same about your snarky comments too Icey 😉

This is going to be a huge problem in the UK. Definitely not back to normal for the NHS, nor for anyone waiting for any diagnosis or treatment of any kind.

www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/28/health-systems-should-be-prepared-doctors-brace-for-tsunami-of-long-covid

Of course it's only going to become apparent, the scale of the problem, in two to three years time. For now patients face a battle to access diagnosis and treatment. The downplaying and dismissal continues (although hopefully those extra specialist clinics including the 15 paediatric ones being set up will help).

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/03/its-terrifying-parents-struggle-to-get-help-for-children-with-long-covid

@IcedPurple

But in the UK it's deja vu deja vu. Again and again and again.

Some might say the same about your posts.

Well obviously. The government fucks up. I comment on it. Deja vu all round.

Except that they have piled up. Very high

But they're not at the moment, are they?

We can't suppress covid. That ship sailed well over a year ago, thanks to government incompetence. All we can do is live with it, and add it to the list of Things Some People Die From. I'm more likely to die from it than most but I certainly don't expect or want everyone to live a half life indefinitely on my account.