All restrictions removed on the 19th July

[Baileysforchristmas]

Do you think this will happen? I hope so.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9714743/England-lift-Covid-rules-masks-social-distancing-work-home-July-19.html

The more this goes on the more I fear this is control by the state, if we were all in it together fair enough but one rule for one. I know it’s always gone on but the government are getting more blaze by the minute.

@Bordois

The amber list thing is bollocks anyway, either its "safe" to go or it isn't. This mid-way 'you can go but don't go but its ok if you do go but we'd prefer you not to was unsustainable anyway.

Haven't read the DM link but I do know today is a UK Travel Industry Day of action ( there's a march and other stuff going on in London and around Westminster)....

Not sure whether this story about the 19th is just HMG testing the water with regard to restrictions but there are signs they might perhaps be signs they are starting to feel some pressure/sense the annoyance.

Well if annoyance works hopefully they’ll stop isolating school children, maybe we should organise a demonstration to stop children being put under house arrest.

Nope

Control by the state
House arrest
Blaze

Such drama.

@Sparklingbrook what do you call 250k children self isolating called then?

[quote Baileysforchristmas]@Sparklingbrook what do you call 250k children self isolating called then?[/quote]
Just that. There’s no ‘house arrest’.

Agree Baileys, particularly when apparently football officials and sponsors AKA "rich people" don't need to

I call it house arrest under another name. Would you ever have thought back in 2019 250k children would have to stay at home while adults are allowed to go about their day with no questions asked?

I hope so, it’s also in the Times:

‘ According to the Times, all remaining lockdown restrictions, including social distancing, face masks and the guidance to work from home are on track to be lifted on 19 July. The paper says the government has been encouraged by the low number of coronavirus deaths recently. After rules are lifted, the emphasis will be on "personal responsibility", a government source says, and people will be advised to wear masks in certain circumstances.’

@Baileysforchristmas

I call it house arrest under another name. Would you ever have thought back in 2019 250k children would have to stay at home while adults are allowed to go about their day with no questions asked?

House arrest suggests a policeman at the front door preventing escape.

I call it self isolating because that’s what it is.

With the clusterfuck of the Euros making us all feel like mugs I think we have to open up. I have stopped giving a flying fuck now about the rules as the football and the rest of it has shown them to be an absolute shower. You can sing at a football match but not in a church. Fuck off with that. What an absolute joke.

From Wikipedia In justice and law, house arrest is a measure by which a person is confined by the authorities to their residence. Travel is usually restricted, if allowed at all.

House arrest seems a reasonable term to use

Nope, because there’s now the “delta plus” variant

Yes I think restrictions will be dropped. They have forced us to lockdown for months because they wanted to vaccinate more people. When they've nearly vaccinated everyone, how can they still ask people to lockdown? I don't think people will listen anymore.

Whole year groups of children sent home to isolate yet the Scotland international team deemed not close contacts of their own teammate (who shared changing rooms/showers/travel/accommodation). It's a fucking joke. Children have no spending power so aren't interesting. Meanwhile thousands of people singing, cheering spitting all over each other is fine, but the children having assembly or sports day with their friends is 'too risky'

Utter fucking bollocks 😡

Well I’m hopeful it will happen, holidays back on and no more isolating or social distancing would be a start.

Oh well if that’s what Wikipedia says it must be correct. Absolutely.

@justinhawkinsnavalfluff

Why would you believe anything in the Daily Fail?

Because the article is actually from the Times, who have been absolutely spot on during the whole pandemic in terms of dates.

@Arrowheart

With the clusterfuck of the Euros making us all feel like mugs I think we have to open up. I have stopped giving a flying fuck now about the rules as the football and the rest of it has shown them to be an absolute shower. You can sing at a football match but not in a church. Fuck off with that. What an absolute joke.

Er, you know that churches are indoors, right?

And you know that outdoor transmission is possible, right?

I think it needs to happen whether it will is anyone's guess

I think they will be dropped. I’m not too concerned though as I think a lot of people are just ignoring it now anyway.

Lockdowns and restrictions need to now start flexing to reflect hospitalisations and deaths rather than number of positive cases.

Positive cases arent an issue in a country which has immunised a massive proportion of all adults plus all of its vulnerable members.

The difference with house arrest is that if someone was under house arrest they would have already done something criminal whereas for people self isolating they have not yet done anything criminal but would do so if they leave - self-isolation criminalises leaving your home (with very limited exceptions). That being the case maybe “house arrest” is an understatement of what is happening. Holding suspected terrorists without charge or trial was found to breach the human rights act years ago despite these individuals likely posing some risk to society but here we are locking up hundreds of thousands of healthy children who have done nothing wrong 99% of whom don’t have covid.